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The Government is Criminal

venk

Banned
Flat out, no matter what kind of system you setup. Your government will always be criminal, corrupt, and horribly inefficiant.

Remember Eminant Domain?

This is One Story


Here are some cliffs for the lazy

1)City sues for land in 2000 to open hotel for phizer reasearch center
2)City wins in 2005

Now that alone is terrible, but stealing peoples land to give to a company is minor compared to the rest.

3)City Charges homeowners for BACK RENT for 2000-2005 for living in "CITY PROPERTY" and offers Eminant Domain Buyout at 2000 Market Value (thats a hell of a lot of equity to give up).

This quote sums it up pretty nicely:

"An NLDC estimate assessed Dery for $6,100 per month since the takeover, a debt of more than $300K. One of his neighbors, case namesake Susette Kelo, who owns a single-family house with her husband, learned she would owe in the ballpark of 57 grand. "I'd leave here broke," says Kelo. "I wouldn't have a home or any money to get one. I could probably get a large-size refrigerator box and live under the bridge."

The city doesn't just want your tax money, they want ALL OF YOUR MONEY.
 
It's too bad politicians can't be ordered to undergo chemical interrogation, to force them to reveal their graft.

You know these weasels received massive kickbacks from Pfizer and the construction companies, plus they're probably planning to lease luxury cars and employ cronies / relatives with the "back rent" they're stealing from their victims.
 
Originally posted by: venk
Flat out, no matter what kind of system you setup. Your government will always be criminal, corrupt, and horribly inefficiant.

Remember Eminant Domain?

This is One Story


Here are some cliffs for the lazy

1)City sues for land in 2000 to open hotel for phizer reasearch center
2)City wins in 2005

Now that alone is terrible, but stealing peoples land to give to a company is minor compared to the rest.

3)City Charges homeowners for BACK RENT for 2000-2005 for living in "CITY PROPERTY" and offers Eminant Domain Buyout at 2000 Market Value (thats a hell of a lot of equity to give up).

This quote sums it up pretty nicely:

"An NLDC estimate assessed Dery for $6,100 per month since the takeover, a debt of more than $300K. One of his neighbors, case namesake Susette Kelo, who owns a single-family house with her husband, learned she would owe in the ballpark of 57 grand. "I'd leave here broke," says Kelo. "I wouldn't have a home or any money to get one. I could probably get a large-size refrigerator box and live under the bridge."

The city doesn't just want your tax money, they want ALL OF YOUR MONEY.

Topic Title: The Government is Criminal
Topic Summary: Republican, Democrat, it does not matter

I really don't believe this would've happened under Democrat rule.

It is the Republican Agenda of anything for the almighty buck at the expense of the citizenry that has caused the decline of this Country.
 
Originally posted by: venk
Flat out, no matter what kind of system you setup. Your government will always be criminal, corrupt, and horribly inefficiant.

Amen to that brother! :thumbsup:

I've been trying to tell the deluded boobs on here for a long time now that the 'government' is nothing more than a gang of extortionists, thieves, fraud artists and liars. Finally someone sees the light.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: venk
Flat out, no matter what kind of system you setup. Your government will always be criminal, corrupt, and horribly inefficiant.

Remember Eminant Domain?

This is One Story


Here are some cliffs for the lazy

1)City sues for land in 2000 to open hotel for phizer reasearch center
2)City wins in 2005

Now that alone is terrible, but stealing peoples land to give to a company is minor compared to the rest.

3)City Charges homeowners for BACK RENT for 2000-2005 for living in "CITY PROPERTY" and offers Eminant Domain Buyout at 2000 Market Value (thats a hell of a lot of equity to give up).

This quote sums it up pretty nicely:

"An NLDC estimate assessed Dery for $6,100 per month since the takeover, a debt of more than $300K. One of his neighbors, case namesake Susette Kelo, who owns a single-family house with her husband, learned she would owe in the ballpark of 57 grand. "I'd leave here broke," says Kelo. "I wouldn't have a home or any money to get one. I could probably get a large-size refrigerator box and live under the bridge."

The city doesn't just want your tax money, they want ALL OF YOUR MONEY.

Topic Title: The Government is Criminal
Topic Summary: Republican, Democrat, it does not matter

I really don't believe this would've happened under Democrat rule.

It is the Republican Agenda of anything for the almighty buck at the expense of the citizenry that has caused the decline of this Country.

The only difference between a republican and a democrat is the type of spin they put on an action. An electron with a positive or a negative spin is still an electron.
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
A government is an inanimate thing.

The people within the government may be criminals... But not the government itself.


Wow, thank you for that pointless post.
 
Surely there is an apeal route. that this could happen is without a doubt, But did they buy out everybody? Get a lawer. Get a good lawer (might be a bit harder).
 
Oh please Venkatesh.

We really don't need conspiracy theories.

Geez someone comes in with blanket garbage and gets respect.

Methinks we all get too tired of eachother sometimes and are nicer to a new face. OT wins again.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: venk
Flat out, no matter what kind of system you setup. Your government will always be criminal, corrupt, and horribly inefficiant.

Remember Eminant Domain?

This is One Story


Here are some cliffs for the lazy

1)City sues for land in 2000 to open hotel for phizer reasearch center
2)City wins in 2005

Now that alone is terrible, but stealing peoples land to give to a company is minor compared to the rest.

3)City Charges homeowners for BACK RENT for 2000-2005 for living in "CITY PROPERTY" and offers Eminant Domain Buyout at 2000 Market Value (thats a hell of a lot of equity to give up).

This quote sums it up pretty nicely:

"An NLDC estimate assessed Dery for $6,100 per month since the takeover, a debt of more than $300K. One of his neighbors, case namesake Susette Kelo, who owns a single-family house with her husband, learned she would owe in the ballpark of 57 grand. "I'd leave here broke," says Kelo. "I wouldn't have a home or any money to get one. I could probably get a large-size refrigerator box and live under the bridge."

The city doesn't just want your tax money, they want ALL OF YOUR MONEY.

Topic Title: The Government is Criminal
Topic Summary: Republican, Democrat, it does not matter

I really don't believe this would've happened under Democrat rule.

It is the Republican Agenda of anything for the almighty buck at the expense of the citizenry that has caused the decline of this Country.

We've always known you were retarded Dave, and now we have proof.

Connecticut is a decidely blue state. Not that you admit to your beloved Democrats ever committing any wrongdoing. John Kerry could break into your house in the middle of the night and repeatedly rape you anally and you'd find a way to blame it on Bush.
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: venk
Flat out, no matter what kind of system you setup. Your government will always be criminal, corrupt, and horribly inefficiant.

Remember Eminant Domain?

This is One Story


Here are some cliffs for the lazy

1)City sues for land in 2000 to open hotel for phizer reasearch center
2)City wins in 2005

Now that alone is terrible, but stealing peoples land to give to a company is minor compared to the rest.

3)City Charges homeowners for BACK RENT for 2000-2005 for living in "CITY PROPERTY" and offers Eminant Domain Buyout at 2000 Market Value (thats a hell of a lot of equity to give up).

This quote sums it up pretty nicely:

"An NLDC estimate assessed Dery for $6,100 per month since the takeover, a debt of more than $300K. One of his neighbors, case namesake Susette Kelo, who owns a single-family house with her husband, learned she would owe in the ballpark of 57 grand. "I'd leave here broke," says Kelo. "I wouldn't have a home or any money to get one. I could probably get a large-size refrigerator box and live under the bridge."

The city doesn't just want your tax money, they want ALL OF YOUR MONEY.

Topic Title: The Government is Criminal
Topic Summary: Republican, Democrat, it does not matter

I really don't believe this would've happened under Democrat rule.

It is the Republican Agenda of anything for the almighty buck at the expense of the citizenry that has caused the decline of this Country.

We've always known you were retarded Dave, and now we have proof.

Connecticut is a decidely blue state.

Heh, on top of that the Kelo decision was made by liberal justices.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: venk
Flat out, no matter what kind of system you setup. Your government will always be criminal, corrupt, and horribly inefficiant.

Remember Eminant Domain?

This is One Story


Here are some cliffs for the lazy

1)City sues for land in 2000 to open hotel for phizer reasearch center
2)City wins in 2005

Now that alone is terrible, but stealing peoples land to give to a company is minor compared to the rest.

3)City Charges homeowners for BACK RENT for 2000-2005 for living in "CITY PROPERTY" and offers Eminant Domain Buyout at 2000 Market Value (thats a hell of a lot of equity to give up).

This quote sums it up pretty nicely:

"An NLDC estimate assessed Dery for $6,100 per month since the takeover, a debt of more than $300K. One of his neighbors, case namesake Susette Kelo, who owns a single-family house with her husband, learned she would owe in the ballpark of 57 grand. "I'd leave here broke," says Kelo. "I wouldn't have a home or any money to get one. I could probably get a large-size refrigerator box and live under the bridge."

The city doesn't just want your tax money, they want ALL OF YOUR MONEY.

Topic Title: The Government is Criminal
Topic Summary: Republican, Democrat, it does not matter

I really don't believe this would've happened under Democrat rule.

It is the Republican Agenda of anything for the almighty buck at the expense of the citizenry that has caused the decline of this Country.

That's an interesting thought considering it was the more liberal Supreme Court justices that said emminent domain could be used to steal a property and give it to a private entity.

Stop the lying.
 
*sigh*

<---- Shakes head.

Complete and utter Bullshit!!!

:|

Edit: To the OP, this story deserves a title/sub-title other than "The Government is Criminal". This story is a travesty to justice and law in this country (or lack thereof) and needs attention. I'm passing it on to my Congressman and Senator. I'm also going to send it to the State of Kentucky (my state) so that it can be used in the passing (hopefully) of a law protecting private property (and if your state hasn't done so yet, you should lobby your state reps to start a bill of the same).

Thanks for the post. Very eye-opening.
 
I have now sent this story and my opinion/lobby effort to both of my senators, my rep, and my state reps. supporting something to be done. I also sent my support to the state supporting a state bill protecting private property (Kentucky is already working on it). Criminal? Yes. At least you can lobby at the state level to protect yourself (hopefully).
 
The Supreme Court ruled that government DOES have the RIGHT to allow investors to buy private property through Imminent Domain channels, and force landowner out and on to the street, IF IT IS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY TAX BASE!

Totaly criminal and shameful.

Imminent Domain was intended to only take property for expansion/growth of city/municipal projects for the use of the city...IE roads, highways, airports, etc...
And if this use is no longer needed, land reverts back to the original owner.

Now, if a developer wants to buy your $100,000 house to put up condo's worth $10,000,000 but you do not want to sell, he can go to the city and take your property, pay you the $100,000, if you refuse offer, then you move out pending trail to dispute dollar amount, and in the meantime developer demolishes house and builds his condos...

Mind you, if you do not have enough money to fight different amount and also afford you a new home in the meantime, then this is a strong tempation to just settle and take what was offered.

Criminal is way to soft a term for this behavior.
 
Are you as OUTRAGED as I am about the Supreme Court's recent decision, allowing city governments to take land from one private owner and give it to another? In "Kelo vs. City of New London", five Justices (led by David Souter) ruled that "eminent domain" allows any local government to TAKE anyone's private property if the government will generate greater tax revenue -- or any other economic benefits -- when the land is developed by the new owner.

If you AREN'T outraged, then you're not paying attention!

These black-robed dictators have now virtually destroyed individual property rights in the United States. Ignoring the U.S. Constitution AGAIN, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that local governments have the "right" to seize private property to make way for private commercial development such as shopping malls.

You read that right. It doesn't matter if your family has lived in your home since you were 11 years old -- if the local government decides that they could make more tax dollars by putting in a mall, too bad for you and your family.

Even Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said in her dissent to the ruling, "Nothing is to prevent the State from replacing any Motel 6 with a Ritz-Carlton, any home with a shopping mall, or any farm with a factory."

But, the Supreme Court has spoken, so that's the end of it, right? Nothing can be done to expose this ruling for the TRAVESTY it really is, right?

WRONG. As a matter of fact, there IS something that can be done -- we can take this ruling to its logical conclusion, and show Justice Souter and his ilk who are sitting there in their ivory towers, far removed from us "common" folk, just what their "legal theories" are doing to US.

So, in keeping with what has now been deemed "constitutional", a private developer has contacted the local government in Supreme Court Justice David Souter's hometown in New Hampshire, asking that the property of the judge be seized to make room for a new hotel, to be named "The Lost Liberty Hotel".

According to WorldNetDaily.com, Logan Darrow Clements faxed a request to the town of Weare, N.H., seeking to start the application process to build a hotel on 34 Cilley Hill Road, the present location of Souter's home.

Wrote Clements: "Although this property is owned by an individual, David H. Souter, a recent Supreme Court decision, Kelo v. City of New London, clears the way for this land to be taken by the government of Weare through eminent domain and given to my LLC for the purposes of building a hotel. The justification for such an eminent domain action is that our hotel will better serve the public interest as it will bring in economic development and higher tax revenue to Weare."

Ah, poetic justice is served. And YOU can help serve it to Justice Souter.

TAKE ACTION: This is not a prank. The town of Weare has five people on the Board of Selectmen. If three of them vote to use the power of eminent domain to take this land from Mr. Souter, Mr. Clements can begin his hotel development -- and we can begin the process of *reversing* this travesty of justice. He already plans to raise investment capital from wealthy pro-liberty investors and draw up architectural plans. These plans would then be used to raise additional capital for the project.

FINALLY, these tyrants in black can "face the music" and actually EXPERIENCE what they're putting the rest of us through! Click below now to send a message to all five members of the town of Weare's Board of Selectmen at once, asking them to see that "Justice Is Served" by implementing Souter's decision and putting a hotel on HIS property:

http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=7771381&type=CU

NOTE: Yes, like Clements, we're aware of the apparent conflict of someone who is strongly opposed to the Kelo decision using it to purposely oust an American from his property. "I realize there is a contradiction, but we're only going to use it against people who advocated" the Kelo decision, Clements told WorldNet Daily. "Therefore, it's a case of retaliation, not initiation."

Be sure to send this Alert to EVERYONE you know who wants to help see that "Justice Is Served" in this outrageous decision to destroy private property rights! Thank you!
 
What do you call a lawyer with a 50 IQ?




Your Honor.




The Emperor definitely needs new clothes. What do you suppose those Supreme Court Justices have on under those black robes?
 
Is there a civil liberties issue here?

Is losing your property rights not a civil liberties question? If not, what is? The Ten Commandments on a courthouse lawn???
 
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