The Global War on Terror is over

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OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Global War On Terror is kinda like the World Series of Baseball... It has that worldwide feeling, but it's really just for the US. :D

Yea, tell that to the Spanish, British, Indians, Chinese, Russians, Jews, Indonesians.


 

Firebot

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Originally posted by: newnameman
The End of the Global War on Terror
Updated 4:58 p.m. 3/24/09
By Al Kamen
The end of the Global War on Terror -- or at least the use of that phrase -- has been codified at the Pentagon. Reports that the phrase was being retired have been circulating for some time amongst senior administration officials, and this morning speechwriters and other staff were notified via this e-mail to use "Overseas Contingency Operation" instead.

"Recently, in a LtGen [John] Bergman, USMC, statement for the 25 March [congressional] hearing, OMB required that the following change be made before going to the Hill," Dave Riedel, of the Office of Security Review, wrote in an e-mail.

"OMB says: 'This Administration prefers to avoid using the term "Long War" or "Global War on Terror" [GWOT]. Please use "Overseas Contingency Operation.'"

Riedel asked recipients to "Please pass on to your speech writers and try to catch this change before the statements make it to OMB."

An OMB spokesman took issue with the interpretation of OMB's wishes. "There was no memo, no guidance," said Kenneth Baer. "This is the opinion of a career civil servant."

Referring to the phrase "global war on terror," Baer said, "I have no reason to believe that would be stricken" from Hill testimony.

By way of history, senior Bush administration officials several years ago wanted to stop using the phrase and switch to something many felt might better reflect the realities of the fight against international terrorism.

One leading option was to change the name to GSAVE, or Global Struggle Against Violent Extremism. This was not as catchy an acronym as GWOT, but officials felt it more accurately described the battle.Then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld even used the GSAVE abbreviation publicly.

But, in a White House meeting, President Bush ruled that it was still a war for him, and Rumsfeld and everyone else went back to GWOT.
http://voices.washingtonpost.c...tml?hpid=news-col-blog

Thank you Obama for ridding the world of terrorists. They obviously could not resist your message of hope and change. :thumbsup::thumbsup::confused::confused:

Well considering the term global war on terror was used to invade a country that had nothing to do with terrorism to begin with, it's a good thing the term isn't used anymore since it was a stupid generic concept anyways like the so called war on drugs.
 

Modelworks

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The war on terror has been replaced with the politically correct, Police action to spread democracy


 

CPA

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
"Global War On Terror" was the dumbest name our country could possibly come up with for a half-assed war in Afghanistan and an illegal war in Iraq.

The old name was too vague, too open-ended, and too much like something you would hear at a televangelist event...which is why Bush picked it.

lol, and Overseas Contingency Operation is clear, to the point?
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: Genx87
Dont forget terrorist attacks are now just "man made disasters".

The secretary of Homeland Security called them "man caused disasters." Which is a lot better sounding.

Yes, because the destruction of property and lives is so much more palatable if it sounds better.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Global War On Terror is kinda like the World Series of Baseball... It has that worldwide feeling, but it's really just for the US. :D

Yea, tell that to the Spanish, British, Indians, Chinese, Russians, Jews, Indonesians.

Dont all of the other countries combined make up like 2% of the military forces in the region? The USA of course making up the 98%.

Yes, its ours... we own it, like it or not.
 

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Lifer
Jun 3, 2002
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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Global War On Terror is kinda like the World Series of Baseball... It has that worldwide feeling, but it's really just for the US. :D

Yea, tell that to the Spanish, British, Indians, Chinese, Russians, Jews, Indonesians.

rofl, this is classic retard shit! :laugh:
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
The war on terror has been replaced with the politically correct, Police action to spread democracy


That's what we need in the US, this sociolism sucks.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Oh no, I used to love to thump my dick while I chanted "Global War or Terrorism Global War or Terrorism Global War or Terrorism. Now what am I going to do?

That stupid Obama, I'm going to tell my Mommy on him.


Did you have the surgery?
 

palehorse

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Not one damn thing on the ground would change either way.

What a completely ridiculous issue... :roll:
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
"By way of history, senior Bush administration officials several years ago wanted to stop using the phrase and switch to something many felt might better reflect the realities of the fight against international terrorism."

Yeah nothing says fighting terrorism overseas like "Overseas Contingency Operation".

Nothing says nonsense like wars against inanimate objects that cannot possibly ever be ended.
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: classy
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Maybe some of you knuckleheads didn't get the memo. There never was f'in global war on terror. We went into Iraq for absolutely nothing, mostly alone to the tune of 98%. We fight in Afghanistan because that is the only place where we know some terrorist are. Outside of Isarel and to a much lesser degree England, no other country has done a blessed thing in this "global war" on terrorism. The only thing global is the dumb@ss republicans who keep spouting this crock quote. Global? Yea right :roll:. Thank God someone with some sense realizes its a bs line.

You do realize there were multi-national forces in Iraq and still are in Afghanistan? Also the Global WoT consisted more than military might. It consisted of rooting out these groups in other countries and closing off their supply of money by working with countries around the "globe".

As much as the Global WoT sounded like a cheap advertisement. It sure as hell described what the Bush administration was trying to accomplish better than "Overseas Contingency Plan"

We root out groups in Iraq by creating a haven for terrorists in the region to be recruited? Really?
 

Rhonda the Sly

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Global War On Terror is kinda like the World Series of Baseball... It has that worldwide feeling, but it's really just for the US. :D

Yea, tell that to the Spanish, British, Indians, Chinese, Russians, Jews, Indonesians.
The World Series is played between the champion clubs of the American League and the National League, which collectively include (today) 29 clubs based in the United States and one club from Canada.

...from a the Wikipedia World Series page.

The War on Terror has such a toxic negative connotation to it that it desperately needs to be rebranded if the White House plans to continue it, I agree. This is mainly to separate themselves from most of 2001~2008 enough that people will be willing to compare the War on Terror to the Overseas Contingency Operation as two separate entities. It's not hard to see why they want it rebranded? "Weapons of mass destruction," torture, questionable imprisonment, the secrecy and all the lost money and lives... it's somewhat akin to a store hanging one of those "under new management!" banners to lure in lost customers.

Too bad though, it's way too far gone. Most people don't even know what the current commitment even is to the War on Terror. Because of the series of mistakes the war on ter' was, the world's current economic crisis, and N.Korea turning up the heat it's going to be difficult to actually sell this and follow through. He's jumping into a pool of quicksand. Either way, I fully expect Obama to start stumping sooner, rather than later, about his expectations for the war and to lay out a plan for the public to consume.

In all honesty I don't think this really warrants any argument, it's something we knew he was doing and was going to ramp up efforts for. This started with the youtube video. We'll see what the next move is.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: classy
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Maybe some of you knuckleheads didn't get the memo. There never was f'in global war on terror. We went into Iraq for absolutely nothing, mostly alone to the tune of 98%. We fight in Afghanistan because that is the only place where we know some terrorist are. Outside of Isarel and to a much lesser degree England, no other country has done a blessed thing in this "global war" on terrorism. The only thing global is the dumb@ss republicans who keep spouting this crock quote. Global? Yea right :roll:. Thank God someone with some sense realizes its a bs line.

You do realize there were multi-national forces in Iraq and still are in Afghanistan? Also the Global WoT consisted more than military might. It consisted of rooting out these groups in other countries and closing off their supply of money by working with countries around the "globe".

As much as the Global WoT sounded like a cheap advertisement. It sure as hell described what the Bush administration was trying to accomplish better than "Overseas Contingency Plan"

We root out groups in Iraq by creating a haven for terrorists in the region to be recruited? Really?


Where is this 'haven' you speak of?