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The Girl in the Window....true story.

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Wheezer

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Nov 2, 1999
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: ElFenix
sounds like the house should be burned down with the 'mother' in it

That's too good for that piece of shit woman ( I refuse to call her a mother ).

I felt the same way when I read part one a few weeks ago in my local paper.

I had not received the paper in a while so I did a search and found the entire story on line and posted it here.

The woman had an IQ of 77 does that excuse her actions?....no it certainly does not.

But it should at the very least make them a "little" more understandable.

I do think she should be punished more than she was but that is now water under the bridge.

its is nice to know that as horrific as that story is, there is some light and glimmer of hope and that Danni is now surrounded by people who love and cherish her.
 

QueBert

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Jan 6, 2002
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fuckin sad story, jesus not that it makes it any better but I wonder with an IQ that low if the mother even understands how fucked up what she did was. I have a family member who's slow and there are common sense things he will never understand.

Hopefully this little girl will turn out ok, sounds like her new family will do everything they can to make that happen.

 

Pocatello

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Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Ns1
The earliest documents are from Feb. 11, 2002. That was when someone called the child abuse hotline on her. The caller reported that a child, about 3, was ?left unattended for days with a retarded older brother, never seen wearing anything but a diaper.?

This is Michelle?s proof that her sons were watching Danielle.

The caller continued:

?The home is filthy. There are clothes everywhere. There are feces on the child?s seat and the counter is covered with trash.?

It?s not clear what investigators found at the house, but they left Danielle with her mother that day.

Nine months later, another call to authorities. A person who knew Michelle from the Moose Lodge said she was always there playing bingo with her new boyfriend, leaving her children alone overnight.

?Not fit to be a mother,? the caller said.

The hotline operator took these notes: The 4-year-old girl ?is still wearing a diaper and drinking from a baby bottle. On-going situation, worse since last August. Mom leaves Grant and Danielle at home for several days in a row while she goes to work and spends the night with a new paramour. Danielle . . . is never seen outside the home.?

Again the child abuse investigators went out. They offered Michelle free day care for Danielle. She refused. And they left Danielle there.

Why? Didn?t they worry about two separate calls to the hotline, months apart, citing the same concerns?

?It?s not automatic that because the home is dirty we?d remove the child,? said Nick Cox, regional director of the Florida Department of Children and Families. ?And what they found in 2002 was not like the scene they walked into in 2005.?

The aim, he said, is to keep the child with the parent, and try to help the parent get whatever services he or she might need. But Michelle refused help. And investigators might have felt they didn?t have enough evidence to take Danielle, Cox said.

?I?m concerned, though, that no effort was made to interview the child,? he said.

?If you have a 4-year-old who is unable to speak, that would raise a red flag to me. ?I?m not going to tell you this was okay. I don?t know how it could have happened.?

ANGER RISING

Indeed.
 

Joemonkey

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Mar 3, 2001
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JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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well, at least it's inspirational in the end. those are some good people who adopted her.
 

TehMac

Diamond Member
Aug 18, 2006
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Isn't this story a bit old? I don't claim repost, but I could have sworn I have heard this story before.


Weird. But the story itself is both revolting, angering, dehumanizing, and very frustrating.

Nice that those folks took her in, but still, fuck. I had to skip some of those lines, because...it's just too fucking unbelievable.


I think I'm thinking of a story where a girl was shoved into a closet, and she was tortured by her family, I mean what a bunch of fucking sick fucks. How does anyone get to that level?
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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That night, he had a dream. Two giant hands slid through his bedroom ceiling, the fingers laced together. Danielle was swinging on those hands, her dark eyes wide, thin arms reaching for him.

I'm not overly religious, but that's the best part of the story.

Of all the people who've had their kids forcibly removed, there's probably not one who thinks it was their fault. These losers excel at rationalizing anything, even if they fail in every other aspect of life.

Also, 77 is a low IQ but still functional. She should have done at least as many years in prison as she kept that girl in those conditions. And the prosecutors who gave her that sweet deal should be canned.
 

Gooberlx2

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May 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Lamont Burns
Bitch has 2 teenage sons in somewhat better condition... neither of those fuckwads thought to do something other than wonder why mommy doesn't do something. Lotta weird shit happens in Florida.

Being raised by a thing like that, and probably not intellectually better off than she is, is it any wonder why they never thought to do anything?
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
That night, he had a dream. Two giant hands slid through his bedroom ceiling, the fingers laced together. Danielle was swinging on those hands, her dark eyes wide, thin arms reaching for him.

I'm not overly religious, but that's the best part of the story.

Of all the people who've had their kids forcibly removed, there's probably not one who thinks it was their fault. These losers excel at rationalizing anything, even if they fail in every other aspect of life.

Also, 77 is a low IQ but still functional. She should have done at least as many years in prison as she kept that girl in those conditions. And the prosecutors who gave her that sweet deal should be canned.

Seriously, she was certainly functional enough to recognize and take a good deal when it was offered (then again she probably had a public defender to help). I can't believe she got out with zero jail time.
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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A 77 IQ is borderline retarded. The woman has proved (obviously) that she cannot care for herself, much less others.

While you want to hate her, you have to understand that she is not entirely to blame for this. She is obviously incapable of functioning as an adult, much less a parent.

It is also obvious that her retardation is genetic and she is passing it on to her children.

The story is written with a bias against the mother. Only once is her borderline retardation mentioned and never discussed again. When her inability to function is the very heart of this matter.
 

zanejohnson

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Nov 29, 2002
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Originally posted by: Amused
A 77 IQ is borderline retarded. The woman has proved (obviously) that she cannot care for herself, much less others.

While you want to hate her, you have to understand that she is not entirely to blame for this. She is obviously incapable of functioning as an adult, much less a parent.

It is also obvious that her retardation is genetic and she is passing it on to her children.

The story is written with a bias against the mother. Only once is her borderline retardation mentioned and never discussed again. When her inability to function is the very heart of this matter.


true... im not saying what she did was somehow OK because of this, more like, expected.. she was mentally disabled, the real shitstain here is the FATHER who abandoned her after knocking her up and thought THAT was ok.
 

zanejohnson

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Nov 29, 2002
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oh wait, the father died.. that's sad too, but who was the shitstain she was with AFTER that guy who really put them in this bad situation...
 

fishjie

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how is it the fathers fault? it was clearly a one night stand in vegas. people do one night stands all the time. he probably had no clue the woman even got pregnant. the reason we have abortions and morning after pills is to prevent stuff like this. the dumb "mother" wanted to be a whore, so she slept with a rich man, and was too stupid to abort the baby.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: Amused
A 77 IQ is borderline retarded. The woman has proved (obviously) that she cannot care for herself, much less others.

While you want to hate her, you have to understand that she is not entirely to blame for this. She is obviously incapable of functioning as an adult, much less a parent.

It is also obvious that her retardation is genetic and she is passing it on to her children.

The story is written with a bias against the mother. Only once is her borderline retardation mentioned and never discussed again. When her inability to function is the very heart of this matter.

I'd say the part towards the end where they describe her current residence as being clean also refutes your argument about her being unable to care for herself. As well as her being organized enough to keep a box of documents supporting her delusions. Plus earlier on she held a job as a cashier. Anyone who can perform these tasks is well aware of the basic tasks involved in caring for a child.

I actually thought they were easy on her. The part where she said no school would take the girl was an obvious lie. Every state has programs and classes for mentally challenged children.
 

jjones

Lifer
Oct 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ns1
The earliest documents are from Feb. 11, 2002. That was when someone called the child abuse hotline on her. The caller reported that a child, about 3, was ?left unattended for days with a retarded older brother, never seen wearing anything but a diaper.?

This is Michelle?s proof that her sons were watching Danielle.

The caller continued:

?The home is filthy. There are clothes everywhere. There are feces on the child?s seat and the counter is covered with trash.?

It?s not clear what investigators found at the house, but they left Danielle with her mother that day.

Nine months later, another call to authorities. A person who knew Michelle from the Moose Lodge said she was always there playing bingo with her new boyfriend, leaving her children alone overnight.

?Not fit to be a mother,? the caller said.

The hotline operator took these notes: The 4-year-old girl ?is still wearing a diaper and drinking from a baby bottle. On-going situation, worse since last August. Mom leaves Grant and Danielle at home for several days in a row while she goes to work and spends the night with a new paramour. Danielle . . . is never seen outside the home.?

Again the child abuse investigators went out. They offered Michelle free day care for Danielle. She refused. And they left Danielle there.

Why? Didn?t they worry about two separate calls to the hotline, months apart, citing the same concerns?

?It?s not automatic that because the home is dirty we?d remove the child,? said Nick Cox, regional director of the Florida Department of Children and Families. ?And what they found in 2002 was not like the scene they walked into in 2005.?

The aim, he said, is to keep the child with the parent, and try to help the parent get whatever services he or she might need. But Michelle refused help. And investigators might have felt they didn?t have enough evidence to take Danielle, Cox said.

?I?m concerned, though, that no effort was made to interview the child,? he said.

?If you have a 4-year-old who is unable to speak, that would raise a red flag to me. ?I?m not going to tell you this was okay. I don?t know how it could have happened.?

ANGER RISING

What's really fucked up about this is that there are steps and procedures in place that were obviously ignored, which permitted this to happen. Finally something terrible like this ocurrs and suddenly you see lawmakers and agencies overreact by creating absurd new policies so that "nothing like this ever happens again".

If they would just do their fucking job in the first place maybe this kind of shit wouldn't happen.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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so sad. seeing shit like this makes me very angry. how the hell do people treat each other that way, especially a child?
 

sygyzy

Lifer
Oct 21, 2000
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I never ever ask for cliffs but this story is way too long. It's good writing for sure but there's reporting and then there's writing a novel.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: sygyzy
I never ever ask for cliffs but this story is way too long. It's good writing for sure but there's reporting and then there's writing a novel.

I think the story is as long as it needs to be.

Major, major failure on the part of CPS. I usually hear about CPS erring in the other direction.