The "gate way drug" hypothesis is true!

IronWing

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Alcohol opens many doors...the poor house...the jail house...the gates of hell. Alcohol is bad; you shouldn't drink.
 

SMOGZINN

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I've done my own research and have similar findings, but I believe that we need to move the step even a few steps further back. My findings show very clearly that hard drug users first started by abusing other licit drugs, most notably caffeine and sugar. Of course we can look at it at a even more basic level and find that the striking relationship between hard drug use and water.
 

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According to the testing conducted in my own lab, this theory is bullshit
 

Squisher

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davmat787

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Considering a doobie and an ice cold glass of water is a great hangover cure, I am not surprised. Alcohol makes you feel like crap, makes sense abusers would then look for something that is not so harsh on your body and mind.
 

Perknose

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But water is the gateway drug to alcohol. !00% of alcoholics first drank water. That puddle at your feet doesn't look quite so innocent now, does it? :colbert:
 

Dr. Zaus

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^ only if it is water abuse ^

I think, more realistically, people abuse substances for myriad reasons; many of which do not care what the method of escapism is.
 

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But water is the gateway drug to alcohol. !00% of alcoholics first drank water. That puddle at your feet doesn't look quite so innocent now, does it? :colbert:


OMG!!!! I just realized - Isn't Amniotic Fluid nearly all water!?!?


Therefore.....





MOM IS A DRUG DEALER!!!! :'( D: :'( D:
 

uclaLabrat

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But water is the gateway drug to alcohol. !00% of alcoholics first drank water. That puddle at your feet doesn't look quite so innocent now, does it? :colbert:
Fuck no that puddle isn't innocent! It just pissed my pants! I'm gonna kick its ass!
 

Doppel

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Alcohol is so ingrained in our society that many don't even question its ill effects, but it is solely responsible for the literal destruction of many thousands of lives; negative impact on health, alcohol-related accidents, and destruction of relationships and ability to function properly.

What I'm getting as is even if it is a gateway drug most will deny any links because they are indoctrinated to the idea of it and cannot fathom a world without it, even their own one. You can see it above with some of the responses mocking the findings.
 

manimal

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First they wanted to take away porn, now booze! It's time we step away from this bourgeois table and say " no more jello for me mom"
 

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But water is the gateway drug to alcohol. !00% of alcoholics first drank water. That puddle at your feet doesn't look quite so innocent now, does it? :colbert:

This reminded me of what a probability professor once told our class. I can't remember what the context was, but it was something along the lines of how some statistics don't show what they seem to show. He pointed to a PSA that said "80% of heroin users smoked pot first." Then he asked us what percentage of heroin users drank water first.
 
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This reminded me of what a probability professor once told our class. I can't remember what the context was, but it was something along the lines of how some statistics don't show what they seem to show. He pointed to a PSA that said "80% of heroin users smoked pot first." Then he asked us what percentage of heroin users drank water first.

Although i understand what the professor at your class was trying to say i still find it a flawed example.

Because if water would have the same effects on the brain as pot has, many people would not even start to drink alcohol anymore... Heineken and more would go bankrupt...
During the 1900 and the first world war, such an argument may have worked, but then it was definitely true that people who used opium (the source of heroin) also used alcohol (and also used water).
It is just that comparing mind altering substances with water (which is a necessity) is just flawed.
Many drugs (hard drugs) legalization advocates claim that the body is addicted to minerals and certain essential proteins and water. Thus according to them there is no such thing as addiction. A flawed view indeed.
The difference is that you start to act weird if you are low on these necessities. This is the opposite with mind altering substances, were people start to think weird or even act weird while having surplus of these substances in their bodies...
I think it is not wise to use alcohol or weed when being a teenager since the brain is still developing. But when matured, one can say that in general a lot less accidents, violence and rapes happen when people are happy and relaxed because of smoking weed in comparison to alcohol consumption.
 
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Perknose

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This reminded me of what a probability professor once told our class. I can't remember what the context was, but it was something along the lines of how some statistics don't show what they seem to show. He pointed to a PSA that said "80% of heroin users smoked pot first." Then he asked us what percentage of heroin users drank water first.

Yeah, that falls under "correlation does not prove causation."