The Garbage has spoken - post-election analysis, predictions, and next steps thread

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Indus

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I mean, how do you get thru to people with that message?

Simple.. you don't ignore them.. and you compete with them like Samsung with Apple instead of giving up like LG/ HTC etc.

Give people a real feeling that we listen to them and care about them instead of.. you're fucking dumb if you vote for the Orange God!

Let's be honest we know how that turned out.. TWICE!
 

dainthomas

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I just have to respond to this..

How come my home state of New York is closer to FLIPPING RED than Florida is to flipping blue?

How can so many people justify voting for a fascist? Simple..

MIGRANTS
MIGRANTS TAKING THE WORKING CLASS JOBS

MIGRANTS COMMITING CRIMES
MIGRANTS TAKING RESOURCES

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Regarding this 2024 election being stolen.. it was so bad you could be forgiven for starting to wonder.. Was that orange buffoon correct and did Dems steal the 2020 election???

The simplest answer comes down to MIGRANTS.. it pissed off the Nimby Liberals!

The owner class pitting workers against each other is a tale as old as time. And very successful. If you're laid off from your job at Initech or don't get a raise, it's not because of some poor migrant picking apples in Washington.
 

Indus

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The number of things that could go wrong with this really is almost beyond imagination.

Trump plans to invade Mexico.

He's smarter than I thought. It's much easier to secure the southern Mexican border than it is to secure our southern border!

People have been saying we need to annex and incorporate Mexico for ages.

Ofcourse 15 million Americans and 150 million Mexicans will be casualties..
 

ch33zw1z

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Simple.. you don't ignore them.. and you compete with them like Samsung with Apple instead of giving up like LG/ HTC etc.

Give people a real feeling that we listen to them and care about them instead of.. you're fucking dumb if you vote for the Orange God!

Let's be honest we know how that turned out.. TWICE!

lol, they weren’t ignored. That’s the point. People getting accurate information knew what was up.

I mean, if your plan going forward is just to appeal to emotions then ok, but just know what your advocating for.

Accurate information and still voting Trump meant that you’re either a terrible person or willfully ignorant of the issues. It’s easy to call one of those two types dumb. And let’s be real here, Trump voters love to call others names, so I’m not too concerned when it comes to calling g people dumb when they’re being dumb
 
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ondma

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I just have to respond to this..

How come my home state of New York is closer to FLIPPING RED than Florida is to flipping blue?

How can so many people justify voting for a fascist? Simple..

MIGRANTS
MIGRANTS TAKING THE WORKING CLASS JOBS

MIGRANTS COMMITING CRIMES
MIGRANTS TAKING RESOURCES

View attachment 112224


Regarding this 2024 election being stolen.. it was so bad you could be forgiven for starting to wonder.. Was that orange buffoon correct and did Dems steal the 2020 election???

The simplest answer comes down to MIGRANTS.. it pissed off the Nimby Liberals!
Immigration wasnt the whole issue though. There was the economy, or more precisely, the hangover from the post-covid inflation, DEI/
Harris's campaign appeared pretty success if you look at the rightward swing in areas with heavy campaigning vs areas without (it was less in states where she campaigned a lot).

I also just think Mr Piker is an idiot for a number of other reasons. Just your generic "left" grifter.
So she lost by less, and lost less of the traditional democratic demographic. Great result. Its like losing a football game by 10 points instead of 30.
 

Jaskalas

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Yeah... No. Let's not invade our sovereign neighbor.
The only "viable" method of attacking Mexico would be to act like Russia, and treat it like Ukraine.
Then the level of unrest in America would "require" acting like Russian security domestically as well.
Which case political opponents WILL get the Navalny treatment.

Americans doing that to Americans is what the promise of MAGA is.
 
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Immigration wasnt the whole issue though. There was the economy, or more precisely, the hangover from the post-covid inflation, DEI/

So she lost by less, and lost less of the traditional democratic demographic. Great result. Its like losing a football game by 10 points instead of 30.
You're the one arguing her message wasn't resonating.
 

KMFJD

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in depth look by the Jacobin was an interesting read


In an interesting comparison, Mexico was one of the few places where the Progressive government easily won re-election, why is that?


meanwhile in the land of the free

 
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nOOky

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Anecdotally people I know voted Trump based on his perceived ability to fix the economy and inflation, and the progressive movement of gender identity especially being taught at school or work the correct gender pronouns to use. Most people do not know a single trans or binary person, so they feel it's very invasive to have it pushed on them. For instance our employer gave us the training in October, the same week they announced that everyone on the production floor or anyone that walks on the production floor has to have safety toe boots. Normally the boot issue would cause an uproar, but it was far overshadowed by the gender training, listening to everyone bitch about it anyway.
 

K1052

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Anecdotally people I know voted Trump based on his perceived ability to fix the economy and inflation, and the progressive movement of gender identity especially being taught at school or work the correct gender pronouns to use. Most people do not know a single trans or binary person, so they feel it's very invasive to have it pushed on them. For instance our employer gave us the training in October, the same week they announced that everyone on the production floor or anyone that walks on the production floor has to have safety toe boots. Normally the boot issue would cause an uproar, but it was far overshadowed by the gender training, listening to everyone bitch about it anyway.

I find dealing with the existence of trans people not to be a major burden because they impact my life in no discernible way whatsoever. Trump voters on the other hand have no issue making their obnoxious selves known to me and trying to get me to agree with them. I basically never receive unsolicited political commentary from left people in real life and I've lived in some pretty liberal places. MAGAs simply will not shut the fuck up.
 

FelixDeCat

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LOL at the idea that Trump has had a single noble intent in his entire life, but aside from that, what you're suggesting sounds like a "war on drugs", now where have I heard that idea before. He may as well announce a war on masturbation.
The war on drugs only failed because we did not lock up enough lazy, good-for-nothing potheads. As far as wanking, Im not sure how we can police that activity if done in private.
 
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Indus

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The war on drugs only failed because we did not lock up enough lazy, good-for-nothing potheads. As far as wanking, Im not sure how we can police that activity if done in private.

With smartphones spying on you.. obviously!

Don't be surprised if there's a concentrated effort to phase out PC gaming for consoles which spy on you.