The Game of LIFE...

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
they might not expect it, and upon playing would be subjected to the ideals of homosexuality is norm.

Uh oh, homosexuality as norm...wait till they see an interracial couple for the first time! Can't have kids accepting of anything different. Gotta build in that fear of the "other" while they are young and impressionable, otherwise they might become accepting and loving of people despite their differences.

Interracial is no more the same as homosexuality as is pedophilia to homosexuality.

I didn't say anything about being accepting and loving. I have gay friends that I accept and I love them. HOwever, I don't approve of their gay lifestyle, but I don't see them as any less human beings. Christ, my lawyer is gay.

Jesus is your gay lawyer?!? :shocked:

nice. I see what you did there. I just had to lol at my own post.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: OrByte
actually no one should be equating homosexuality with anything other than homosexuality.

gaydom is equitable to gaydom only. Not Pedo's, not Beastie's, Not Poly's, not Islam, not etc etc etc

each issue carries its own history, its own faults, its own characteristics that cannot be equated to any other in substance. The only similar characteristic is that each represent some sort of minority group, and as a result some level of persecution has been applied to each group...I would argue some of it is deserved, and some not. But that is another thread.

/hijack

I only equate them all together as deviant behaviors. I would fight for teh gayz if someone tried to persecute them as pedos.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Interracial is no more the same as homosexuality as is pedophilia to homosexuality.

I didn't say anything about being accepting and loving. I have gay friends that I accept and I love them. HOwever, I don't approve of their gay lifestyle, but I don't see them as any less human beings. Christ, my lawyer is gay.

Interracial relationships are about two consenting adults having a relationship with one another. Pedophilia is about an adult having a sexual relationship with a child who is legally unable to give consent.

Now, replace the words "interracial" and "pedophilia" in the above sentences with the word homosexual. Which sentence still makes sense? This is why interracial relationships are more directly relatable to homosexual relationships than pedophilia; both interracial relationships and gay relationships are between consenting adults.

How do these gay friends of yours feel about you equating them with pedophiles? Or do you only make that argument when you feel they aren't part of the conversation?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I would fight for teh gayz if someone tried to persecute them as pedos.

Awwwwww, c'mere you, and give me a Big Gay Hug!

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
they might not expect it, and upon playing would be subjected to the ideals of homosexuality is norm.

Uh oh, homosexuality as norm...wait till they see an interracial couple for the first time! Can't have kids accepting of anything different. Gotta build in that fear of the "other" while they are young and impressionable, otherwise they might become accepting and loving of people despite their differences.

Interracial is no more the same as homosexuality as is pedophilia to homosexuality.

I didn't say anything about being accepting and loving. I have gay friends that I accept and I love them. HOwever, I don't approve of their gay lifestyle, but I don't see them as any less human beings. Christ, my lawyer is gay.

You can't accept someone whose "lifestyle" you don't approve of. I doubt gay person who knows your opinion of their "lifestyle" considers you their friend.

Most people aren't friends with their lawyers.

As you can see, I can't stand it when bigots spit out the "black friend" line.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Interracial is no more the same as homosexuality as is pedophilia to homosexuality.

I didn't say anything about being accepting and loving. I have gay friends that I accept and I love them. HOwever, I don't approve of their gay lifestyle, but I don't see them as any less human beings. Christ, my lawyer is gay.

Interracial relationships are about two consenting adults having a relationship with one another. Pedophilia is about an adult having a sexual relationship with a child who is legally unable to give consent.

Now, replace the words "interracial" and "pedophilia" in the above sentences with the word homosexual. Which sentence still makes sense? This is why interracial relationships are more directly relatable to homosexual relationships than pedophilia; both interracial relationships and gay relationships are between consenting adults.

How do these gay friends of yours feel about you equating them with pedophiles? Or do you only make that argument when you feel they aren't part of the conversation?

If I had a friend who was addicted to shoplifting, and I told them I didn't approve of that, I wouldn't expect them to drop me as a friend over it. If they did, their loss.

Your right about the analogy. I use it as a comparison of deviant behavior according to design, not whether or not its consulting adults or not.

However, I see interracial sexual relationships about consenting male and female adults. I see homosexual relationships as two consenting adults of the same sex. There is a difference.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
they might not expect it, and upon playing would be subjected to the ideals of homosexuality is norm.

Uh oh, homosexuality as norm...wait till they see an interracial couple for the first time! Can't have kids accepting of anything different. Gotta build in that fear of the "other" while they are young and impressionable, otherwise they might become accepting and loving of people despite their differences.

Interracial is no more the same as homosexuality as is pedophilia to homosexuality.

I didn't say anything about being accepting and loving. I have gay friends that I accept and I love them. HOwever, I don't approve of their gay lifestyle, but I don't see them as any less human beings. Christ, my lawyer is gay.

Jesus is your gay lawyer?!? :shocked:

:laugh:

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
they might not expect it, and upon playing would be subjected to the ideals of homosexuality is norm.

Uh oh, homosexuality as norm...wait till they see an interracial couple for the first time! Can't have kids accepting of anything different. Gotta build in that fear of the "other" while they are young and impressionable, otherwise they might become accepting and loving of people despite their differences.

Interracial is no more the same as homosexuality as is pedophilia to homosexuality.

I didn't say anything about being accepting and loving. I have gay friends that I accept and I love them. HOwever, I don't approve of their gay lifestyle, but I don't see them as any less human beings. Christ, my lawyer is gay.

You can't accept someone whose "lifestyle" you don't approve of. I doubt gay person who knows your opinion of their "lifestyle" considers you their friend.

Most people aren't friends with their lawyers.

As you can see, I can't stand it when bigots spit out the "black friend" line.

You can't accept someone who has a lifestyle you don't approve of? Fuck off and says who? I have friends who smoke crack. I don't approve of it, but am I not their friend? I'm still their friend. But, hey, it's cool. I have a black friend.

And I have made the argument that homosexual behavior is a deviant behavior such as pedophilia to a lesbian friend of mine. She got a little mad, but I stood my ground with her and said as a friend, I don't agree with her behavior. We accept our differences. We still hang out.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: OrByte
actually no one should be equating homosexuality with anything other than homosexuality.

gaydom is equitable to gaydom only. Not Pedo's, not Beastie's, Not Poly's, not Islam, not etc etc etc

each issue carries its own history, its own faults, its own characteristics that cannot be equated to any other in substance. The only similar characteristic is that each represent some sort of minority group, and as a result some level of persecution has been applied to each group...I would argue some of it is deserved, and some not. But that is another thread.

/hijack

I only equate them all together as deviant behaviors. I would fight for teh gayz if someone tried to persecute them as pedos.

Heh, you just labelled Muslims as deviants

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: OrByte
actually no one should be equating homosexuality with anything other than homosexuality.

gaydom is equitable to gaydom only. Not Pedo's, not Beastie's, Not Poly's, not Islam, not etc etc etc

each issue carries its own history, its own faults, its own characteristics that cannot be equated to any other in substance. The only similar characteristic is that each represent some sort of minority group, and as a result some level of persecution has been applied to each group...I would argue some of it is deserved, and some not. But that is another thread.

/hijack

I only equate them all together as deviant behaviors. I would fight for teh gayz if someone tried to persecute them as pedos.

Heh, you just labelled Muslims as deviants

YOU ARE ALL DEVIANTS!!!!! ARRLAKJS HHGHGHGHGHG

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
they might not expect it, and upon playing would be subjected to the ideals of homosexuality is norm.

Uh oh, homosexuality as norm...wait till they see an interracial couple for the first time! Can't have kids accepting of anything different. Gotta build in that fear of the "other" while they are young and impressionable, otherwise they might become accepting and loving of people despite their differences.

Interracial is no more the same as homosexuality as is pedophilia to homosexuality.

I didn't say anything about being accepting and loving. I have gay friends that I accept and I love them. HOwever, I don't approve of their gay lifestyle, but I don't see them as any less human beings. Christ, my lawyer is gay.

You can't accept someone whose "lifestyle" you don't approve of. I doubt gay person who knows your opinion of their "lifestyle" considers you their friend.

Most people aren't friends with their lawyers.

As you can see, I can't stand it when bigots spit out the "black friend" line.

You can't accept someone who has a lifestyle you don't approve of? Fuck off and says who? I have friends who smoke crack. I don't approve of it, but am I not their friend? I'm still their friend. But, hey, it's cool. I have a black friend.

And I have made the argument that homosexual behavior is a deviant behavior such as pedophilia to a lesbian friend of mine. She got a little mad, but I stood my ground with her and said as a friend, I don't agree with her behavior. We accept our differences. We still hang out.

Your lesbian friend is stupid.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
they might not expect it, and upon playing would be subjected to the ideals of homosexuality is norm.

Uh oh, homosexuality as norm...wait till they see an interracial couple for the first time! Can't have kids accepting of anything different. Gotta build in that fear of the "other" while they are young and impressionable, otherwise they might become accepting and loving of people despite their differences.

Interracial is no more the same as homosexuality as is pedophilia to homosexuality.

I didn't say anything about being accepting and loving. I have gay friends that I accept and I love them. HOwever, I don't approve of their gay lifestyle, but I don't see them as any less human beings. Christ, my lawyer is gay.

You can't accept someone whose "lifestyle" you don't approve of. I doubt gay person who knows your opinion of their "lifestyle" considers you their friend.

Most people aren't friends with their lawyers.

As you can see, I can't stand it when bigots spit out the "black friend" line.

You can't accept someone who has a lifestyle you don't approve of? Fuck off and says who? I have friends who smoke crack. I don't approve of it, but am I not their friend? I'm still their friend. But, hey, it's cool. I have a black friend.

And I have made the argument that homosexual behavior is a deviant behavior such as pedophilia to a lesbian friend of mine. She got a little mad, but I stood my ground with her and said as a friend, I don't agree with her behavior. We accept our differences. We still hang out.

Your lesbian friend is stupid.

So if she wasn't stupid, she wouldn't tolerate my attitude towards her sex life. So, in order for her not to be stupid, she would need to be a bigot?

 

[n yusef]

Your lesbian friend is stupid.

So if she wasn't stupid, she wouldn't tolerate my attitude towards her sex life. So, in order for her not to be stupid, she would need to be a bigot?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot The "especially" part is important.

Not tolerating bigotry is not the same as not tolerating a certain group. Here's an analogy: it's OK to not tolerate racism, and it doesn't make you a bigot.

Any gay person who regards you as a friend probably hates herself.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: sao123


I think parents have the right to determine when to and when not to expose their kids to sexual issues.

its not unreasonable for her to not want her child to be exposed at six years old to sexual issues. Hell, many parents dont want their children dating until they are 16.

Also, since the game of life is rated for ages 5 to adult, I dont see a problem her logic.
People who create items for young children need to stop the propoganda and issue pushing in childrens products. there is no need for "gay" Life game, "gay" sesame street, or "gay" barbie.

BS... It doesn't take that much explaining to tell your 6 year old that some people prefer the company of the same sex. 6 years old is more than old enough for this, unless you haven't done a good job of parenting up to that point.

lol, you're a tool if you actually believe that.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
they might not expect it, and upon playing would be subjected to the ideals of homosexuality is norm.

Uh oh, homosexuality as norm...wait till they see an interracial couple for the first time! Can't have kids accepting of anything different. Gotta build in that fear of the "other" while they are young and impressionable, otherwise they might become accepting and loving of people despite their differences.

Interracial is no more the same as homosexuality as is pedophilia to homosexuality.

I didn't say anything about being accepting and loving. I have gay friends that I accept and I love them. HOwever, I don't approve of their gay lifestyle, but I don't see them as any less human beings. Christ, my lawyer is gay.

You can't accept someone whose "lifestyle" you don't approve of. I doubt gay person who knows your opinion of their "lifestyle" considers you their friend.

Most people aren't friends with their lawyers.

As you can see, I can't stand it when bigots spit out the "black friend" line.

You can't accept someone who has a lifestyle you don't approve of? Fuck off and says who? I have friends who smoke crack. I don't approve of it, but am I not their friend? I'm still their friend. But, hey, it's cool. I have a black friend.

And I have made the argument that homosexual behavior is a deviant behavior such as pedophilia to a lesbian friend of mine. She got a little mad, but I stood my ground with her and said as a friend, I don't agree with her behavior. We accept our differences. We still hang out.

You don't approve of being black?

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: JujuFish
Good ol' ATOT. Absolutely fine with Christianity bashing, but make a hint of anything anti-homosexual and you better protect your hind quarters.

:thumbsup:

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Your lesbian friend is stupid.

So if she wasn't stupid, she wouldn't tolerate my attitude towards her sex life. So, in order for her not to be stupid, she would need to be a bigot?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot The "especially" part is important.

Not tolerating bigotry is not the same as not tolerating a certain group. Here's an analogy: it's OK to not tolerate racism, and it doesn't make you a bigot.

Any gay person who regards you as a friend probably hates herself.

I love it. he keeps repeating the same nonsense, trying to define bigotry on his own terms.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: JujuFish
Good ol' ATOT. Absolutely fine with Christianity bashing, but make a hint of anything anti-homosexual and you better protect your hind quarters.

:thumbsup:

I already addressed this earlier, but it's pretty clear that the VAST majority of those who tend to get bashed for hyper-religion are the same that go after homosexuality as deviant behavior, using the exact same nonsense and failed logic.

I'm not one to whole-heartedly bash religion so much as I go after misguided arguments. I'd argue that no one is bashing these particular groups; they are bashing a general inability to think rationally. This is a tech forum, so you have to expect that antiquated ideas with no rigorous observational evidence to back them up are going to receive their fair share of scrutiny around here.

again, these two concepts that you guys roll your eyes at tend to be the same target. No hypocrisy found.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: lxskllr
BS... It doesn't take that much explaining to tell your 6 year old that some people prefer the company of the same sex. 6 years old is more than old enough for this, unless you haven't done a good job of parenting up to that point.

lol, you're a tool if you actually believe that.

Someone is a tool if they believe children are capable of hearing that gay couples exist? What about children of gay couples; surely they must be able to hear that gay couples exist? Or are children of gay couples not able to hear that straight couples exist? When are children with parents of a specific sexual orientation able to learn about parents with other sexual orientations?

Do you believe it is impossible to discuss relationships without discussing them sexually?

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
DIAF

When did that stop being a bannable offence?

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: sao123


I think parents have the right to determine when to and when not to expose their kids to sexual issues.

its not unreasonable for her to not want her child to be exposed at six years old to sexual issues. Hell, many parents dont want their children dating until they are 16.

Also, since the game of life is rated for ages 5 to adult, I dont see a problem her logic.
People who create items for young children need to stop the propoganda and issue pushing in childrens products. there is no need for "gay" Life game, "gay" sesame street, or "gay" barbie.

BS... It doesn't take that much explaining to tell your 6 year old that some people prefer the company of the same sex. 6 years old is more than old enough for this, unless you haven't done a good job of parenting up to that point.

lol, you're a tool if you actually believe that.

The difference between me and you, is I actually have a child. You're just armchair quarterbacking, and running your mouth ;^)

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: sao123


I think parents have the right to determine when to and when not to expose their kids to sexual issues.

its not unreasonable for her to not want her child to be exposed at six years old to sexual issues. Hell, many parents dont want their children dating until they are 16.

Also, since the game of life is rated for ages 5 to adult, I dont see a problem her logic.
People who create items for young children need to stop the propoganda and issue pushing in childrens products. there is no need for "gay" Life game, "gay" sesame street, or "gay" barbie.

BS... It doesn't take that much explaining to tell your 6 year old that some people prefer the company of the same sex. 6 years old is more than old enough for this, unless you haven't done a good job of parenting up to that point.

lol, you're a tool if you actually believe that.

And the great lesson learned by all from this thread is that if you don't believe what Christians believe, you're wrong.

I don't think any rational person is saying that the Christian groups don't have a right to be upset; after all, this game has offended their sensibilities. The flaw in their thinking, and yours, is that there is something wrong with this situation. If you don't like a game, don't play it and if you can't take the time to review what you are allowing your children to play, then you have no business complaining about it. Hasboro isn't responsible for raising your kids to believe in a man in the sky, or raising them to believe that abortion is bad, or that the earth was made in six days. That's you're freaking job. Just like it's my job to raise my children in a manner I see fit.

So, lupi, go ahead and bitch and whine about how Christians are so "unfairly" treated, but realize that Christians bring it upon themselves.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: sao123


I think parents have the right to determine when to and when not to expose their kids to sexual issues.

its not unreasonable for her to not want her child to be exposed at six years old to sexual issues. Hell, many parents dont want their children dating until they are 16.

Also, since the game of life is rated for ages 5 to adult, I dont see a problem her logic.
People who create items for young children need to stop the propoganda and issue pushing in childrens products. there is no need for "gay" Life game, "gay" sesame street, or "gay" barbie.

BS... It doesn't take that much explaining to tell your 6 year old that some people prefer the company of the same sex. 6 years old is more than old enough for this, unless you haven't done a good job of parenting up to that point.

lol, you're a tool if you actually believe that.

The difference between me and you, is I actually have a child. You're just armchair quarterbacking, and running your mouth ;^)

I have two and they knew well that men can be with men and women with women at that age because we had two children in that class and an EXCELLENT teacher who told them about just that.

They just accepted it and went right on with the day, i don't think the discussion came up until a year later when some Muslim parents learned about it, the rest of us parents stood behind the teacher and they left, good for them, most of those in this school were Protestant children but a few were Catholic, but they were heterosexuals, not like the longing homosexuals who condemn to make a point so no one will notice when they solicit gay sex in an airplane bathroom.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: sao123


I think parents have the right to determine when to and when not to expose their kids to sexual issues.

its not unreasonable for her to not want her child to be exposed at six years old to sexual issues. Hell, many parents dont want their children dating until they are 16.

Also, since the game of life is rated for ages 5 to adult, I dont see a problem her logic.
People who create items for young children need to stop the propoganda and issue pushing in childrens products. there is no need for "gay" Life game, "gay" sesame street, or "gay" barbie.

BS... It doesn't take that much explaining to tell your 6 year old that some people prefer the company of the same sex. 6 years old is more than old enough for this, unless you haven't done a good job of parenting up to that point.

lol, you're a tool if you actually believe that.

I love how you, the utmost hater of all things religious regarding Islam comes here and pretends that Christianity acting the same way, legislating morality, would be a good thing.

If people like you had your wish, you could rename the US to SA.V2.