http://www.bfgtech.com/future/
Does anyone know what this is all about?
Wonder what they are trying to hype up now
Does anyone know what this is all about?
Wonder what they are trying to hype up now
The Future of PC Gaming
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Its either a lame advertisement for a video card, or else they're talking about something else entirely. The way they hype it up with "first the CPU, then the GPU, now the..." PPU? Physics processor from AGEIA?
My guess is that its another lame advertisement for another video card. The industry already tried to regain the hype nVidia generated when they started touting the GPU with the GeForce 1 by trying to coin another term, the "VPU" which obviously failed, as a VPU is a GPU. I'm guessing its a lame advertisement for a new video card because getting a PPU now would do us what good? Are there any games that are out now that could take advantage of it, or games to be out by spring?
Although the PPU is the next logical step, and would fit their train of thought: first the CPU -> then the GPU -> now the PPU, however I wouldn't put it past them to try and tout a new GPU or video card (possibly with mulitple GPUs) as the next thing to change gaming even though we get that with every refresh.
My guess is that its another lame advertisement for another video card. The industry already tried to regain the hype nVidia generated when they started touting the GPU with the GeForce 1 by trying to coin another term, the "VPU" which obviously failed, as a VPU is a GPU. I'm guessing its a lame advertisement for a new video card because getting a PPU now would do us what good? Are there any games that are out now that could take advantage of it, or games to be out by spring?
Although the PPU is the next logical step, and would fit their train of thought: first the CPU -> then the GPU -> now the PPU, however I wouldn't put it past them to try and tout a new GPU or video card (possibly with mulitple GPUs) as the next thing to change gaming even though we get that with every refresh.
HamburgerBoy
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Looks like a PPU.
And both BFG and ASUS are signed up to produce AEGIA PPU cards.
http://www.simhq.com/_technology/technology_067a.html
And both BFG and ASUS are signed up to produce AEGIA PPU cards.
http://www.simhq.com/_technology/technology_067a.html
If it's a PPU, then it's nothing big. The idea of a seperate component for physics died the day the X2/Pentium D launched.
Not yet, but its not like either way of boosting physics exactly has any support at this point in time.
However, the PPU depends on people actually owning/buying it, and so they need it to be in machines before they can really get much support for it, but at the same time people don't want it because there isn't support for it. With the dual-core CPUs, there are plenty of them out already, and more and more computers will have them in the future, so its hardware that is more available.
Granted, based on the praises that Ageia spread about the PPU, then even another regular CPU core wouldn't be able to boost physics like it can, but it seems like a much better solution.
They adopted another instruction set for the second core? Wow, I must not have been aware of that.
nitromullet
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I can see where this is heading, and I don't want to get into another thread of discussing the merits and demerits of the PPU as seen from the eyes of a technophobe. PC hardware has to be the only "enthusiast" topic where those involved actually shun the new technology, which is ironic considering it is all about technology. The PhysX card is going to be expensive at first, all new tech is... Deal with that fact, and deal with the fact that technology advances... PC gaming and high end PC components are expensive, that's why they make Xboxes and eMachines...
Same thing people said about 3D accelerators. If OEMs start implementing them, they'll already have a huge sales base.
IF being the operative word.
OEMs are always trying to cut cost, and adding more cost in the form of a uneeded PPU doesn't sound like a sound business plan.
Your lack of faith in the power of marketing is disapointing. All you have to do is include one in all the high end Dell gaming computers, (which could use them to take some of the load off the P4s
) and start marketing them as a good upgrade path and voila!I'm not sure how these physics cards would work in practice. Unlike video cards, they would alter gameplay directly, which would create problems in multiplayer games. It seems that if the card is supported at all in a game, it would have to be required for everyone, which would kill the game's sales.
Don't worry, people like my next door neighbors will keep them going. I think they bought the highest end Dell PC and they haven't opened it up yet. All they intended to do was do some word processing (they are not gamers period).
Exactly. They may not trick frequent AnandTechers, but they will trick average people into buying them and get a market off it.
They will probably have 'boundary boxes' for all possible values of calculated precision. I don't know, it hurts the brain to even think about what they'd do about it.
Originally posted by: Bobthelost
Your lack of faith in the power of marketing is disapointing. All you have to do is include one in all the high end Dell gaming computers, (which could use them to take some of the load off the P4s
Exactly. They may not trick frequent AnandTechers, but they will trick average people into buying them and get a market off it.
They will probably have 'boundary boxes' for all possible values of calculated precision. I don't know, it hurts the brain to even think about what they'd do about it.
negative. have you tried to watch the 3DMARK06 CPU tests? It's a gruelling experience. The benefeits of dedicated hardware while not end all/be all, are enormous.
DeathReborn
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I'll be getting one around the time UT2007 comes out. I'll probably upgrade my Motherboard at that point aswell, for AM2, DDR2 & SLI or Crossfire X16.
Doesn't bother me too much if it performs miracles or bombs spectacularly, they'll always find other uses for it like in those Folding, SETI etc programs.
Doesn't bother me too much if it performs miracles or bombs spectacularly, they'll always find other uses for it like in those Folding, SETI etc programs.
Without a PPU your PCs won't be handling ports from the consoles without being scaled down. Consoles are becoming the lead dev platform for almost all of the "PC" developers as of this point. It is simply a matter of time until it is a standard component and it will remain so for many years at least(by the time CPUs can touch what the first gen PPUs will handle they will be on their third, fourth or fifth gen PPU).
It would be pointless to buy the card in that case though, if it just reverts to the "simple" physics. That's what I can't understand about this; the card would either need to have almost no effect or make the game work differently for each player. I can only see it being used in singleplayer games for a while.
A PPU could be used for effects like dynamic (flapping) cloth and other eye candy without being tied to computing bullet ballistics and other gameplay elements.
So it might even be useful for MP games.
Meh. It's a chicken and egg scenario, and I'm not going to blow $200 on one of these bad boys until it's as much of a gaming experience upgrade as a $200 vs integrated graphics card.
$700 in hardware to play $50 games. Um. Yeah. Time to learn to like the console controller.
So it might even be useful for MP games.
Meh. It's a chicken and egg scenario, and I'm not going to blow $200 on one of these bad boys until it's as much of a gaming experience upgrade as a $200 vs integrated graphics card.
$700 in hardware to play $50 games. Um. Yeah. Time to learn to like the console controller.
It is likely I will wait till the second generation, the leap from first to second is usually fairly significant as well as the technologies exposure and implementation.
RussianSensation
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Common sense tells us that at $250+ they will be since you can buy a whole graphics card that will boost performance much more for $250. Yet look at all those 7800GTX SLI rigs....
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