The Fox News /MSNBC Implosion

[Ballatician]

I see why people think MSNBS is liberal and Fox conservative but how is CNN part of the "liberal media?"

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland
So many of you projecting your own biases on the subject... I dont know if Pew Research has a leaning or not, but they did study this subject:

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1011/color-of-news-coverage

I didnt read it... I looked at the graphs. When you consider how Fox covered McCain and Obama, there was a remarkable equality... if not an advantage to Obama. Their graphs look nearly identical. Compare that to the difference in coverage by MSNBC... not even close.

MSNBC is not long for this world. I think FoxNews will thrive in an Obama presidency, especially with the Fairness Doctrine looming large in the near future.

There will be no fairness doctrine, period. I think the problem with what you're saying is that it is based on the false assumption that both campaigns were equally deserving of positive coverage. To say that McCain and Obama were equally deserving of good press coverage strains credulity.

And that would be your OPINION. That said, you cannot tell me that the coverage offered by MSNBC is "fair" based on your definition of "fair" either. Their graphs are stupid slanted... there is no question that they arent even in teh same neighborhood as fair.

I am not saying it... Pew Research is saying it. I think their measurement is flawed in that they compare to the media average... which I would argue is skewed liberal aka favorable to Obama. The fact that the coverage was damn near EQUAL and actually slightly in Obama's favor... nobody else even came close to that kind of parity.

I'm not disputing the Pew Research findings, what I'm saying is that I don't know if it was asking the right question. All candidates and campaigns are not equal. To use an extreme example, if Hitler were running against Obama and Hitler got all these negative news stories about him, would it be bias? Would it be simply reporting on the reality of how awful he was?

My argument would be that McCain ran a poor, confused, cash strapped campaign in an election season that was heavily tilted against him to begin with. By design, he attempted to dominate the headlines with a series of high risk, high profile electoral stunts with Palin, suspending his campaign, etc. In addition to that, he ran an almost exclusively negative campaign over the last several months, relying on ads of dubious truth about ridiculous topics.

To me, if the press had covered the two equally (like FOX did) that would be an egregious violation of journalistic ethics, because they would be implying equality where none exists.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: Pens1566
Uh ... last I heard MSNBC was now beating Fox News in prime time ratings ..... both Olbermann and Maddow have been ahead of O'Reilly for several weeks now.

Huh? That is a complete false statement. Go research before posting pwease.

It was the 25-54 demo ..... look for yourself ....

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