The fourth pizza delivery guy in a row.....

[Cuda1447]

I honestly don't feel lucky. I just think most people just suck @ getting new jobs. Now getting a good job that pays well, that is another story. I should definitely be more grateful... stupid cunts I work with always manage to kill my positivity.

I know where you're coming from. I don't really feel 'lucky' per say. But that's because we haven't experienced the other side of it. I agree a lot of people suck at getting jobs. But there are a lot of people who don't and due to bad circumstances, are in a rough spot.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, a LOT of us aren't that far from having a very bad time in life. A few things don't bounce our way and all of a sudden we are going to really struggle in life.

Picture this: Your company gets bought by another and within a month your position is cut. Bad luck, but it happens. A month after, while looking for work you get in a car accident and break a leg. Now you're out of work, have some medical bills, probably don't have medical insurance and are going to have a hell of a time actually going on interviews etc. Now throw in a bad economy, possibly a field your'e in that is being outsourced, or living in a city that was hit hard by the recession.


Obviously this is a make-believe situation, but it's not THAT far fetched. Lots of things happen in life. You're only one or two bad breaks from understanding we aren't as invincible as we think and luck has a LOT more to do with our lives than we'd like to admit.



All of that said, keep working hard and doing the right thing and you'll surely be ahead of a lot of people who don't.

 

[KlokWyze]

I know where you're coming from. I don't really feel 'lucky' per say. But that's because we haven't experienced the other side of it. I agree a lot of people suck at getting jobs. But there are a lot of people who don't and due to bad circumstances, are in a rough spot.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, a LOT of us aren't that far from having a very bad time in life. A few things don't bounce our way and all of a sudden we are going to really struggle in life.

Picture this: Your company gets bought by another and within a month your position is cut. Bad luck, but it happens. A month after, while looking for work you get in a car accident and break a leg. Now you're out of work, have some medical bills, probably don't have medical insurance and are going to have a hell of a time actually going on interviews etc. Now throw in a bad economy, possibly a field your'e in that is being outsourced, or living in a city that was hit hard by the recession.


Obviously this is a make-believe situation, but it's not THAT far fetched. Lots of things happen in life. You're only one or two bad breaks from understanding we aren't as invincible as we think and luck has a LOT more to do with our lives than we'd like to admit.



All of that said, keep working hard and doing the right thing and you'll surely be ahead of a lot of people who don't.

I've been in those kinds of situation quite a bit, but it's COMPLETELY from me being a lazy, incompetent bitch ass mother fucker. When I was younger.

All you have to is pay attention and be competent enough to do your job and you should be fine.

Planning ahead puts you above 75% of the pack.

Also, don't live 100+ miles from an urban area. That helps.

 

[Svnla]

I know where you're coming from. I don't really feel 'lucky' per say. But that's because we haven't experienced the other side of it. I agree a lot of people suck at getting jobs. But there are a lot of people who don't and due to bad circumstances, are in a rough spot.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, a LOT of us aren't that far from having a very bad time in life. A few things don't bounce our way and all of a sudden we are going to really struggle in life.

Picture this: Your company gets bought by another and within a month your position is cut. Bad luck, but it happens. A month after, while looking for work you get in a car accident and break a leg. Now you're out of work, have some medical bills, probably don't have medical insurance and are going to have a hell of a time actually going on interviews etc. Now throw in a bad economy, possibly a field your'e in that is being outsourced, or living in a city that was hit hard by the recession.


Obviously this is a make-believe situation, but it's not THAT far fetched. Lots of things happen in life. You're only one or two bad breaks from understanding we aren't as invincible as we think and luck has a LOT more to do with our lives than we'd like to admit.



All of that said, keep working hard and doing the right thing and you'll surely be ahead of a lot of people who don't.

That's why it is very important to have AT LEAST 6 months of living expense in a safe FDIC insured account for those kind of situations. When you are not pressing for money, you can pick and choose the type of job you want.

 

[alkemyst]

Country is not headed towards anything good long-term. More crashes are coming. TBH there needs to be a massive crash for any proper reform to happen. Other countries look worse though.

No crash is needed, we just need to start pushing back and speaking up.

Sadly, most people are reactive, rather than proactive and by that time it's too late.

 

[johnjohn320]

Am I the only one who thinks the OP sounds like a presumptuous, condescending dick? "Oh, he looked so nice, too bad he doesn't have a *real* job. I don't even know him but I'm assuming what his 'situation' must be. I'm such a nice guy, I gave him this big tip, he was sooo appreciative."

You don't know this person, you know absolutely nothing about him, but here you are congratulating yourself for being the bright spot on what you assume is his shitty day in his shitty life...

 

[JEDIYoda]

They are banking on the minimum wage getting raised to $20 an hour. Then they'll be rolling in dough.

That is the most asinine idiotic comment i have ever read on these forums!

Most of these people who are older and deliver pizza do it to supplement their day job!

They really are not at all concerned with their hourly rate of pay!

Tips is where it is at!! 9 out of 10 Delivery drivers do not declare all thei tip if they declare any!

Plus being a Pizza delivery driver can be a real fun job!!

 

[BUTCH1]

The older you are the tougher it is to get a job when you lose one, I just got a job after 4 months of looking and at 25K/yr its nothing to write home about, but I'm glad to be getting off unemployment.

 

[who?]

Even though they knew about the recession, a lot of employers thought there must be something wrong with anybody who had been unemployed for a long time and wouldn't hire them.

 

[WelshBloke]

Am I the only one who thinks the OP sounds like a presumptuous, condescending dick? "Oh, he looked so nice, too bad he doesn't have a *real* job. I don't even know him but I'm assuming what his 'situation' must be. I'm such a nice guy, I gave him this big tip, he was sooo appreciative."

You don't know this person, you know absolutely nothing about him, but here you are congratulating yourself for being the bright spot on what you assume is his shitty day in his shitty life...

Weird. I didn't read it as that at all.

More "Shit, that could be me quite easily. Sucks that people have to try so hard for so little but good for that guy for still fighting." to me but there you go.

 

[JimmiG]

.... that came to my house has been a regular, non-retarded guy over 40 who looks like they should be doing a real job for a living. Maybe fifth, I've lost count.

One of them was particularly depressing: A very clean-cut man wearing pressed dress pants and polished shoes. I felt bad and tipped him a fiver on a nine dollar order; you should have seen his eyes - he was so thankful.

For years (all of the time I've lived here) it's been nothing but college kids. This is just wrong.

This where we're headed, isn't it.

Fewer jobs available, harder to get a good job. People still need to work to survive so they take anything they can get.

 

[Mai72]

I know there's significant factors involved here, but I've lived through downturns and I've never seen anything like this before. It's shocking.

I keep on thinking the nicely dressed guy is trying desperately to make enough money to pay his mortgage so he won't lose his house. Maybe he's working two crap jobs and this is his night one. Fricking depressing.

edit - I think we posted simultaneously, potifex. I wouldn't bat an eye at one guy dong this, but it's been so many.

This is why i got out of America and went to work in South Korea. I don't have a car payment and I don't pay rent. I want to be able to save money and live comfortably. Presently, it's very hard to do that in America. I love being an expat.

I understand not everyone can just pickup and move. It was a life changing decision for me, and it has been mostly a positive one.

In October I'm moving to Thailand to live with my girlfriend and teach. I'd like to come home to visit my family, but I can't see myself staying in America for an extended period.

 

[Mai72]

Fewer jobs available, harder to get a good job. People still need to work to survive so they take anything they can get.

True. I also think that people need to adapt to the job market and most people are having a very hard time doing this. Do we really need another Literature major? Anthropology? Women's Studies? Photography? There are jobs out there and they are going unfulfilled. The problem is many graduates are ill-equipped to take on these jobs. Math and Science are two fields that need people. Most people aren't skilled enough in Math and Science so companies are outsourcing and they are getting the talent in countries such as; South Korea, China, and India.

Just my opinion.

 

[Cuda1447]

That's why it is very important to have AT LEAST 6 months of living expense in a safe FDIC insured account for those kind of situations. When you are not pressing for money, you can pick and choose the type of job you want.

I agree that it is extremely important to have that. But guess what, a lot of people don't have that. The single mom raising two kids making $9 an hour will probably NEVER have that.


And even if you do. One medical bill can wipe that all out in an instant. A few months back my wife had to go to the hospital for something that turned out to be fairly minor. It cost us $3000. That's with insurance. Without insurance the bill would have been about $12,000.

There goes that 6 months savings. Now what?

 

[CZroe]

That is the most asinine idiotic comment i have ever read on these forums!

Most of these people who are older and deliver pizza do it to supplement their day job!

They really are not at all concerned with their hourly rate of pay!

Tips is where it is at!! 9 out of 10 Delivery drivers do not declare all thei tip if they declare any!

Plus being a Pizza delivery driver can be a real fun job!!

That was kinda his point. He was making fun of the OP's position in the McDonald's minimum wage thread.

 

[Fritzo]

The US economy boomed for decades due to high-paid-low-skilled factory jobs. These jobs didn't require an education, but tended to be a bit dangerous or conducive to injury. These jobs featured amazing healthcare benefits, unions always asking for more money, profit sharing---it wasn't uncommon for a guy with a high school education to be making $40/hr at a local car manufacturer for attaching bolts with an airwrench.

It got to the point where it was too expensive to keep these practices up, so manufacturing started getting exported overseas. This lead to the manufacturing sector's decline, leaving a huge population of workers with no marketable skills. The number 1 job market in the US right now is services, and manufacturing doesn't look to be coming back anytime soon.

So...that's why there are 40 year old people delivering pizza these days.

 

[Via]

Plus being a Pizza delivery driver can be a real fun job!!

Not sure if serious....

I don't know where you delivered pizzas (Beverly Hills?), but Pizza delivery is not on the whole a fun job. It mostly sucks balls.

Sure, it's ok before dark when you're delivering to a nice subdivision. But you don't get to choose your deliveries, and eventually the sun goes down.

Delivering to a nasty apartment complex, or a run down section of town where not one fucking person leaves a porch light on and you have to guess the house numbers, after dark is something you probably never get used to. I know - I delivered pizzas for about 3 weeks in college until an incident convinced me the job entailed more risk than I was willing to take on.

 

[Mixolydian]

I always feel bad for those guys. Driving around for hours sounds like hell. Especially in traffic.

 

[brianmanahan]

you tip pizza delivery guys? when i used to live in the city i would sometimes order pizzas but never tipped the delivery guy. didnt know anybody did that.

who knows, he might have been thankful because he can buy some weed with that 5$

 

[Mixolydian]

you tip pizza delivery guys?

you are a terrible person.

 

[CZroe]

you are a terrible person.

You just fed the troll. Why don't you deliver him pizza?

He'll probably tip you a pome.

 

[Mixolydian]

You just fed the troll. Why don't you deliver him pizza?

He'll probably tip you a pome.

I don't do pizza delivery, but a pome would be nice.

 

[dmcowen674]

Education is bullshit. I know a ton of college graduates who are underemployed or unemployed. Education is important for doctors, lawyers, engineers and a few other specific fields. And even then, the cost of it is outrageous that it isn't really a viable option for many people.

The problem, in my opinion, is RIDICULOUS profits by the large corporations and way overpaid top executives and CEO's. Spread that pay around the bottom a little bit and you don't have to run skeleton crews to make 10% year over year profits. More jobs for more people. And don't tell me you people haven't noticed this. A LOT of jobs are expecting a lot more out of people than before, while cutting staff. It's most evident in retail environments. But I'm sure its true of many professions. People should be able to make a fair wage working 40 hours a week. Expecting employees (low end managers especially) to work 60+ hours a week while paying them shit compared to what they should be getting paid is a huge problem.


I could go on and on, but until we start putting PEOPLE ahead of CORPORATIONS we will continue to have more and more of a problem. There is a reason why the concentration of wealth in this country has drastically changed in the last 25 years. It's not a good thing either.

I really don't understand why more of us don't have a problem with this.

Good post

Sadly there are a lot of bad people online these days as evidenced by their posts just in this thread alone.

 

[BUTCH1]

I know where you're coming from. I don't really feel 'lucky' per say. But that's because we haven't experienced the other side of it. I agree a lot of people suck at getting jobs. But there are a lot of people who don't and due to bad circumstances, are in a rough spot.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, a LOT of us aren't that far from having a very bad time in life. A few things don't bounce our way and all of a sudden we are going to really struggle in life.

Picture this: Your company gets bought by another and within a month your position is cut. Bad luck, but it happens. A month after, while looking for work you get in a car accident and break a leg. Now you're out of work, have some medical bills, probably don't have medical insurance and are going to have a hell of a time actually going on interviews etc. Now throw in a bad economy, possibly a field your'e in that is being outsourced, or living in a city that was hit hard by the recession.


Obviously this is a make-believe situation, but it's not THAT far fetched. Lots of things happen in life. You're only one or two bad breaks from understanding we aren't as invincible as we think and luck has a LOT more to do with our lives than we'd like to admit.



All of that said, keep working hard and doing the right thing and you'll surely be ahead of a lot of people who don't.

I was in a similar situation when I lost my job in April, Hawaiian Tropic was bought by Energizer, brought in new managers, ect. I kinda had an idea they didn't care for the long-tenured people when we were all rounded up for "random" drug tests. Then the new manager could not be told anything, he had to re-invent the wheel, he wound up jacking up the time it took to finish a batch to a point where payroll was biting him in the ass.My termination was over a 10 second argument with a lazy co-worker who got caught loafing but arguing is against the "anti-violence" policy so out the door I went, I start a new job on Monday. Meanwhile the inventory has gone to complete shit, I was the person who watched over things and there is no one to replace my knowledge of SAP, they probably are saving a whopping $60/wk by me not being there, bunch of idiots..

 

[Chaotic42]

I was in a similar situation when I lost my job in April, Hawaiian Tropic was bought by Energizer, brought in new managers, ect. I kinda had an idea they didn't care for the long-tenured people when we were all rounded up for "random" drug tests. Then the new manager could not be told anything, he had to re-invent the wheel, he wound up jacking up the time it took to finish a batch to a point where payroll was biting him in the ass.My termination was over a 10 second argument with a lazy co-worker who got caught loafing but arguing is against the "anti-violence" policy so out the door I went, I start a new job on Monday. Meanwhile the inventory has gone to complete shit, I was the person who watched over things and there is no one to replace my knowledge of SAP, they probably are saving a whopping $60/wk by me not being there, bunch of idiots..

That's one of the things which bothers me about modern corporate society. People who produce little to nothing (or even negative work) are able to get by over and over again. If you call them out on it, you get in trouble.

Is it really worth it to do 10x the work for the same pay?

 

[JamesV]

I managed pizza shops for Pizza Hut, Little Caesars, and Papa Johns.

Drivers are a very high turnaround job. Out of ten drivers, eight of them would be replaced twice a year. From the smell of their car after a few months, to noticing dings, bad customers, having to fill up their gas more often, and working to 11:30PM or midnight on weekdays; it isn't the job they imagined.

The older drivers almost always have driving as a second job, to help pay the bills, or to save for things like Christmas or a wedding. They could do something else, but driving allows a lot of freedom, and the tips can be very good. These are often the drivers that keep the job the longest.

Now you might have seen a guy really down on his luck and hating his job, but more likely you got guilt tripped into a bigger tip. Just like waiting tables, how you appear to be working has a major effect on your tips (and surprise, drivers know this) - if I look like I'm frazzled and always running, I'll get 20% more tips. If I look down on my luck while delivering pizzas, I'll make more tips.

My best drivers made $200+ in tips every Friday and Saturday night. I would say don't feel sorry for them, but then I'd be hurting their tips. A customer might look at them and wonder how they fell so low, to need to deliver pizzas, never realizing they can make an extra $400 on the two days they have off from their regular job.