The fourth pizza delivery guy in a row.....

Via

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.... that came to my house has been a regular, non-retarded guy over 40 who looks like they should be doing a real job for a living. Maybe fifth, I've lost count.

One of them was particularly depressing: A very clean-cut man wearing pressed dress pants and polished shoes. I felt bad and tipped him a fiver on a nine dollar order; you should have seen his eyes - he was so thankful.

For years (all of the time I've lived here) it's been nothing but college kids. This is just wrong.

This where we're headed, isn't it.
 

T9D

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They are banking on the minimum wage getting raised to $20 an hour. Then they'll be rolling in dough.
 

futurefields

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The number of good people in this country is exponentially higher than the number of good jobs available.
 

CZroe

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Under-employed. This is partly why the unemployment rate is as low as it is. Another big one is that we spent the last several years getting as many people as we could on permanent government assistance so they left the job market.
 

Via

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I know there's significant factors involved here, but I've lived through downturns and I've never seen anything like this before. It's shocking.

I keep on thinking the nicely dressed guy is trying desperately to make enough money to pay his mortgage so he won't lose his house. Maybe he's working two crap jobs and this is his night one. Fricking depressing.

edit - I think we posted simultaneously, potifex. I wouldn't bat an eye at one guy dong this, but it's been so many.
 

RaistlinZ

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My dad delivered pizzas part time after his full time job in order to support my brother and me. It's pretty humbling to do a job like that in your 40's. Makes me appreciate all my dad did for us.
 

waggy

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They are banking on the minimum wage getting raised to $20 an hour. Then they'll be rolling in dough.

When i delivered pizza I did make roughly $20 an hour. I worked Friday and Saturday night and Sunday during the day.
 

TwiceOver

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Could be their second job. Pay down debts. If I had less family I'd definitely work a second job. If I had a destroyable car I'd deliver pizza.
 

bbhaag

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It certainly is an interesting discussion. I often wonder if we are heading the same way Japan did when they entered their "Great Recession" back in the early '90's and by some accounts are still going through it to this day.
Are delivery "boys" in their 30's and 40's going to be the norm from now on? And what will the youth that follows them do to start earning a wage in their early lives? Our leaders and politicians keep stressing education as the answer but I have my doubts about that to.

Will we leave our youth disenfranchised like Japan did or is our economy strong enough and our leaders wise enough to make the right decisions?
 

Cuda1447

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It certainly is an interesting discussion. I often wonder if we are heading the same way Japan did when they entered their "Great Recession" back in the early '90's and by some accounts are still going through it to this day.
Are delivery "boys" in their 30's and 40's going to be the norm from now on? And what will the youth that follows them do to start earning a wage in their early lives? Our leaders and politicians keep stressing education as the answer but I have my doubts about that to.

Will we leave our youth disenfranchised like Japan did or is our economy strong enough and our leaders wise enough to make the right decisions?


Education is bullshit. I know a ton of college graduates who are underemployed or unemployed. Education is important for doctors, lawyers, engineers and a few other specific fields. And even then, the cost of it is outrageous that it isn't really a viable option for many people.

The problem, in my opinion, is RIDICULOUS profits by the large corporations and way overpaid top executives and CEO's. Spread that pay around the bottom a little bit and you don't have to run skeleton crews to make 10% year over year profits. More jobs for more people. And don't tell me you people haven't noticed this. A LOT of jobs are expecting a lot more out of people than before, while cutting staff. It's most evident in retail environments. But I'm sure its true of many professions. People should be able to make a fair wage working 40 hours a week. Expecting employees (low end managers especially) to work 60+ hours a week while paying them shit compared to what they should be getting paid is a huge problem.


I could go on and on, but until we start putting PEOPLE ahead of CORPORATIONS we will continue to have more and more of a problem. There is a reason why the concentration of wealth in this country has drastically changed in the last 25 years. It's not a good thing either.

I really don't understand why more of us don't have a problem with this.
 

Cuda1447

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Is this recession really that bad? I always have an easy time finding jobs close to home regardless of the economy it seems.

YMMV. I haven't had any problems either. But we both say that, until we do have problems. Plenty of people do. We are just fortunate, lucky, whatever.
 

KlokWyze

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YMMV. I haven't had any problems either. But we both say that, until we do have problems. Plenty of people do. We are just fortunate, lucky, whatever.

I honestly don't feel lucky. I just think most people just suck @ getting new jobs. Now getting a good job that pays well, that is another story. I should definitely be more grateful... stupid cunts I work with always manage to kill my positivity.
 

Pocatello

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I know a few high school teachers here who work night jobs at the supermarkets or convenience stores. In my area, if you want a middle class style home, chances are both you and your spouses have to find 2nd or 3rd jobs.
 
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RockinZ28

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When i delivered pizza I did make roughly $20 an hour. I worked Friday and Saturday night and Sunday during the day.

Yep, I got that on weekends. Works out to more cause 70% or so was tax free ;).

That was by far the most fun Ive had doing a job. Was actually more than happy to go to work. Hmm maybe I should go apply at one and see if they'll let me work Saturdays only.
 

alkemyst

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I haven't tipped less than $5 for pizza even since the 90's.

There are many people wishing they did have better jobs.
 

KlokWyze

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I know a few high school teachers here who work night jobs at the supermarkets or convenience stores. In my area, if you want a middle class style home, chances are both you and your spouses have to find 2nd or 3rd jobs.

Country is not headed towards anything good long-term. More crashes are coming. TBH there needs to be a massive crash for any proper reform to happen. Other countries look worse though.
 

holden j caufield

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good for you hopefully you made his night. My mom worked a 2nd job, to pay for crap when I was the typical clueless teenager. It's tough going to a regular job and then doing something else afterwards. Hopefully I'll have enough in the future that she doesn't have to worry about $ down the road.
 

KlokWyze

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Yep, I got that on weekends. Works out to more cause 70% or so was tax free ;).

That was by far the most fun Ive had doing a job. Was actually more than happy to go to work. Hmm maybe I should go apply at one and see if they'll let me work Saturdays only.

You make good money during busy hours because your stops are so close together. Less gas, but more importantly, lesstime. If you can deliver like 6 orders an hour, that's pretty good money. And fun TBH.

I used to do it 10+ years ago. Would smoke bowls in between deliveries. LMAO. :D