The Folds of Our Flag (I did not know this!)

Brutuskend

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The American Flag

Do you know that at military funerals, the 21 gun salute actually stands for the sum of the numbers in the year 1776?

I hope you have noticed the honor guard pays meticulous attention to correctly folding the American flag 13 times? You probably thought it was to symbolize the original 13 colonies, but we learn something new every day!

Be surprised at the following only because "they" quit teaching this around 1955 in public schools... some of you out there might remember.

The 1st fold of our flag is a symbol of life.

The 2nd fold is a symbol of our belief in eternal life.

The 3rd fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veterans departing our ranks who gave a portion of their lives for the defense of our country to attain peace throughout the world.

The 4th fold represents our weaker nature, for as American citizens trusting in God, it is to Him we turn in times of peace as well as in
time of war for His divine guidance.

The 5th fold is a tribute to our country, for in the words of Stephen Decaur, "Our Country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right; but it is still our country, right or wrong."

The 6th fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our hearts that, "We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States Of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all."

The 7th fold is a tribute to our Armed Forces, for it is through the Armed Forces that we protect our country and our flag against all her
enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of our republic.

The 8th fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day.

The 9th fold is a tribute to womanhood, and Mothers. For it has been through their faith, their love, loyalty and devotion that the character of the men and women who have made this country great has been molded.

The 10th fold is a tribute to the fathers, for they, too, have given their sons and daughters for the defense of our country since they were first born.

The 11th fold represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies in the Hebrews' eyes, the God of
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The 12th fold represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in the Christians' eyes, God the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit.

The 13th fold, or when the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost reminding us of our nation's motto, "In God We Trust."

After the flag is completely folded and tucked in, it takes on the appearance of a cocked hat, ever reminding us of the soldiers who
served under General George Washington, and the sailors and marines who served under Captain John Paul Jones, who were followed by their comrades and shipmates in the Armed Forces of the United States, preserving for us the rights, privileges and freedoms we enjoy today.
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I didn't know this.

.....I really don't care, either.

amish

As is your right.

I posted this for those who DO care. :p


BTW: I'm not a HUGE flag waver myself. But I am a trivia buff.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I didn't know this.

.....I really don't care, either.

amish

If you don't care about this country, go to China or something. This is a proud tradition that you just crapped on and I am offended.
 

Entity

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Unfortunately, it's false.

http://66.165.133.65/index.html

The flag is folded this way simply because it provides a dignified ceremonial touch that distinguishes folding a flag from folding an ordinary object such as a bedsheet, and because it results a visually pleasing, easy-to-handle shape. That this process requires thirteen folds is coincidental, not the product of design.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Entity
Unfortunately, it's false.

http://66.165.133.65/index.html

The flag is folded this way simply because it provides a dignified ceremonial touch that distinguishes folding a flag from folding an ordinary object such as a bedsheet, and because it results a visually pleasing, easy-to-handle shape. That this process requires thirteen folds is coincidental, not the product of design.


Yeah, that's what I expected.


If you don't care about this country, go to China or something. This is a proud tradition that you just crapped on and I am offended.

I do care about the country...kind of, but the country is a whole lot more than a piece of cloth on a stick.

It's your choice to be offended. Be as offended as you like, it really makes no difference to me how you waste your energy.

 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Entity
Unfortunately, it's false.

http://66.165.133.65/index.html

The flag is folded this way simply because it provides a dignified ceremonial touch that distinguishes folding a flag from folding an ordinary object such as a bedsheet, and because it results a visually pleasing, easy-to-handle shape. That this process requires thirteen folds is coincidental, not the product of design.


Yeah, that's what I expected.

amish

I suspected as much too.

Still...

Perhaps you could have checked it yourself, rather than simply trolling.

Viper GTS
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: ATLien247
Source?

I wonder why they don't teach Boy Scouts this?

Well it was Emailed to me by a old H/S buddy and Brother in Arms (Both Marines) but a google search turns up this so it looks like it IS true.
 

Entity

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: ATLien247
Source?

I wonder why they don't teach Boy Scouts this?

Well it was Emailed to me by a old H/S buddy and Brother in Arms (Both Marines) but a google search turns up this so it looks like it IS true.

Sorry Brutus, but I think that's just another person passing on misinformation, this time in a web-form. Here's another link:

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html

What is the meaning of the folds in a flag-folding ceremony?

There is no official meaning to the folds, however, the United States Air Force Academy suggests This Ceremony

Rob
 

brxndxn

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I didn't know that either... and I was in boy scouts!

And for those that say you don't care, why the hell do you post in this thread then? This thread isn't directed to you specifically, so why should it matter if you care? It is completely disrespectful. If a guy posts about some random topic, and you say "I don't care" in response, then what overall contribution did you make besides postcount+1?

I wish the mods would start banning people for the whole "and I care because..." replies. Brutuskend never implied that everyone on the fvcking forums cared about what he said. Why the hell do you feel the need to post about it?
 

Entity

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
You mean SNOPES could actually be WRONG for once??!!! :confused:

Hehe.

Ah, now I understand.
An even more elaborate flag folding ceremony has since been devised for special occasions such as Memorial Day and Veterans Day, one which incorporates the association of particular symbolic meanings with each fold of the flag. These associations are "real" in the sense that they mean something to the people who participate in the ceremony, but they are not the reason why a flag is folded in the traditional thirteen-step manner.
There are specific ceremonies where there is a unique symbolism for each type of fold, but that is not the origin of folding it 13 times.

That makes sense. :)

Rob
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
I didn't know that either... and I was in boy scouts!

And for those that say you don't care, why the hell do you post in this thread then? This thread isn't directed to you specifically, so why should it matter if you care? It is completely disrespectful. If a guy posts about some random topic, and you say "I don't care" in response, then what overall contribution did you make besides postcount+1?

I wish the mods would start banning people for the whole "and I care because..." replies. Brutuskend never implied that everyone on the fvcking forums cared about what he said. Why the hell do you feel the need to post about it?

So, we're only allowed to post to threads that we agree with?

That will make for an exciting forum.

I wasn't so adamant and overbearing about it. All of you that are over-reacting to my comment are blowing things completely out of proportion.

Just calm down, relax, and realize that not everyone in this world shares your opinion about everything and THAT"S OK.

amish