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The flu shot hysteria makes me laugh.

FelixDeCat

FelixDeCat

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Every year the media trys to whip everyone into a frenzy so the people who make these drugs can sell them before they go bad. Yes, EVERY year the flu makes people miserable for days, but they recover.

Unfortuantely, some do not recover and vulnerable age groups should consider vaccination.

However, I feel this whole thing is overblown (as usual) and will soon pass.
 
Exactly what Doppel said.
Read some stats on this years #s and the strength of this/these strain(s). It's really devastating.
 
MeowKat said:
Every year the media trys to whip everyone into a frenzy so the people who make these drugs can sell them before they go bad. Yes, EVERY year the flu makes people miserable for days, but they recover.

Unfortuantely, some do not recover and vulnerable age groups should consider vaccination.

However, I feel this whole thing is overblown (as usual) and will soon pass.
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As stated by other anti-vaccine morons, the shot isn't 100% effective. So, that flu that you spread around (self-righteous asshole) may very well kill someone else's grandmother who received the shot, but wasn't adequately protected by it.
 
MeowKat said:
Every year the media trys to whip everyone into a frenzy so the people who make these drugs can sell them before they go bad. Yes, EVERY year the flu makes people miserable for days, but they recover.

Unfortuantely, some do not recover and vulnerable age groups should consider vaccination.

However, I feel this whole thing is overblown (as usual) and will soon pass.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/11/health/us-flu-season/index.html

There have been 20 deaths of people under the age of 18 since the flu outbreak began.


tell it to the parents of the 20 people that died from the flu.
 
I don't think I've ever had the flu, but since my employer provides vaccination at work on paid time, I get vaccinated as my contribution to herd immunity.
 
DrPizza said:
As stated by other anti-vaccine morons, the shot isn't 100% effective.
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The flu vaccine is not even close to 100% effective, its not even in the ball park, its not even in the same town or anywhere close to 100% effective.


DrPizza said:
So, that flu that you spread around (self-righteous asshole) may very well kill someone else's grandmother who received the shot, but wasn't adequately protected by it.
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Maybe its time for drug companies to improve their research into flu vaccines?

If the HepB vaccine can be something like 99% effective, then what is the issue with the flu vaccine?

Let me guess, its because the flu virus mutates so fast? But for some reason the polio and hepB viruses do not mutate?

If the small pox vaccine was ineffective as the flu vaccine, millions of people would have died in the past 5 decades. Its a good thing we had real scientist that actually cared about public health working on the polio vaccine.
 
Had a flu shot and managed to catch the flu twice now in six month with my gf. We were out for three weeks sick each time. They hit my gf harder than me but I had some massive lymph node swelling.
 
Texashiker said:
The flu vaccine is not even close to 100% effective, its not even in the ball park.




Maybe its time for drug companies to improve their research into flu vaccines?

If the HepB vaccine can be something like 99% effective, then what is the issue with the flu vaccine?

Let me guess, its because the flu virus mutates so fast? But for some reason the polio and hepB viruses do not mutate?

If the small pox vaccine was ineffective as the flu vaccine, millions of people would have probably died in the past 5 decades.
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I can tell that science isn't your strong suit.

Yes, it is precisely the reason why a new flu vaccine is needed every year. The virus does mutate relatively quickly and the current markers used to immunize people are the parts that are prone to mutation. The effectiveness of a vaccine against a completely unrelated virus has nothing to do with the effectiveness of another vaccine against another virus. It's apples and oranges.

There is plenty of work going into making a better influenza vaccine. Unfortunately, science isn't magic and you cannot just will experiments to work.
 
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HumblePie said:
Had a flu shot and managed to catch the flu twice now in six month with my gf. We were out for three weeks sick each time. They hit my gf harder than me but I had some massive lymph node swelling.
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That sucks big time. Are either of you in positions with constant contact with the general public?
 
OP, what hysteria are you talking about? The media was just doing the usual "here's flu/flu shot info" until was it Massachusetts declared a public health emergency.

Its not hysteria. I haven't seen anyone but anti-vaccine morons show any sort of hysteria about the flu/flu shot.

Texashiker said:
The flu vaccine is not even close to 100% effective, its not even in the ball park.




Maybe its time for drug companies to improve their research into flu vaccines?

If the HepB vaccine can be something like 99% effective, then what is the issue with the flu vaccine?

Let me guess, its because the flu virus mutates so fast? But for some reason the polio and hepB viruses do not mutate?

If the small pox vaccine was ineffective as the flu vaccine, millions of people would have probably died in the past 5 decades.
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Hahahahahaha, back to prove that you might be the single most ignorant person about this on here? Seriously you put even whatshisface (our "resident chiro") to shame for ridiculously absurdly stupid knowledge of the flu vaccine.
 
I don't tend to think of religious people as inherently ignorant and outright dumb, but every post from the OP challenges that assertion.
 
DrPizza said:
As stated by other anti-vaccine morons, the shot isn't 100% effective. So, that flu that you spread around (self-righteous asshole) may very well kill someone else's grandmother who received the shot, but wasn't adequately protected by it.
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Oh come on, please don't try the guilt trip thing. If the flu can be spread by those who didn't get the flu shot to people who DID get the shot, then that shot was pretty darn ineffective. Isn't the whole point of the shot to prevent you from getting the flu in the first place?

Just makes the flu shot sound like even more baloney.
 
SparkyJJO said:
Oh come on, please don't try the guilt trip thing. If the flu can be spread by those who didn't get the flu shot to people who DID get the shot, then that shot was pretty darn ineffective. Isn't the whole point of the shot to prevent you from getting the flu in the first place?

Just makes the flu shot sound like even more baloney.
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It makes me sad that on a tech site, there are so many scientifically illiterate individuals, especially when it's already been stated in the thread that what they appear to believe is incorrect.

It has been known for a long time that the flu shot isn't 100% effective. It's usually about 60-70% effective.

Hmmmm... I'll attempt to explain using an analogy. The mathematical models are somewhat similar. Let's turn to nuclear bombs. I think just about everyone has heard of "critical mass" - below which, you're not getting a boom. Above which, bad shit starts to happen. It's similar to that in the population. If below a certain percentage of the people are vaccinated (and really, the vaccination is only affective about 3 to 4 out of 5 times), then the flu spreads very rapidly and infects a high percentage of individuals. This results in more people (young, elderly) dying from the flu. But, if the percentage of the population that is successfully vaccinated is high enough, then the flu spreads, but not as rapidly, and not infecting as high a percentage of the population.
 
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