The Fleet From My Friend's Game Store... (OS Question)

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As some of you know, a friend of mine owns a video game store with a dozen PCs on a pay-to-play LAN, which he has allowed me to run SETI@Home on. I let it slide for a time, but have been working lately to get it re-installed on all of them, though I am currently delayed in my efforts while I wait for my car to get fixed. :(

Anyway, they cannot keep an eagle eye on everyone, so I was doing some maintenance and tweaking on the machines while installing IsOs' service install. I ran AdAware, looked through the installed programs and removed stuff that customers had been installing on the sly, etc. One machine had a file sharing utility on it that was acting as a server for all sorts of stuff that a customer had downloaded, and several others had remnants of Morpheus on them, where the person had thought dragging some of the file folders to the Recycle Bin equated to it being uninstalled. :disgust: AdAware found 259 instances of spyware on one machine, most of it that Gator crap that gives you the pop-up windows that say "If you are a mental midget, please click the "YES" button and install this garbage." On yet another machine, I found no less than six different messaging programs installed. Nearly all of the machines had the amount of Temporary InterNet Files stored set above 3 gigabytes. Ridiculous crap like that.

Anyway, they are running Windows98 SE. He is thinking of upgrading to 2K, so he can set passwords, etc. to prevent people from installing stuff, changing settings, etc. Is there some way to make it do this in 98 SE, or no? Also, I think it would be a better choice to go with WinXP rather than 2K, as it has been the most problem-free OS I have used thus far. I do not have extensive experience with 2K though.

Can anyone comment either way as to which would be better for game oriented machines? I know he would probably need to add memory on some of the machines if he goes with XP, but I think the cost overall would be worth it.

The oldest games that they are running that I can think of would be StarCraft and the BroodWar expansion, so there would not really be any compatibility issues that I can think of with any of the games.
 

Migroo

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Just as we start off - I am running Win2k (so I may be biast). I have lately been running War2, Starcraft and (ofcourse) War3 without problems.

He should be aware that there may be some devices that work in Win2k that do not work in WinXP (some scanners etc have this problem).

With regards to memory, I would say that he may have to upgrade some machines wether or not he goes with 2k or XP. How much do the said machines have at the moment?

For purely game oriented machines, I wouldnt think there would be too much of a difference. The thing I notice with Win2k is that it is far more stable than Win98. This office machine of mine (also 2k) has an uptime of around 3 weeks (Seti is running 24/7) which is very good indeed. The memory-management is top class. I remember having to reboot a 98 machine after about 3 or so games...

I have had problems with: GTA (original), MotoRacer (love that game) and some others that I cant remember. These problems may be down to hardware changes...

It is very easy to lock people into a 'run only' user mode - someone here did that by mistake, and accidentaly 'un-gave' themselves PowerUser privilages, and they could not even make new folders!! :) The security is really tight. Once you have 2k or XP installed, the 'servicing' time per machine should dramatically fall (ie: Time taken to clean out all the rubbish)

HTH.
 

LastKnight

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98 is really wide open, and you will likely need some variation of NT to get the security that you want.

Have you thought about using ghost to maintain the images on these pcs? Set all of the pcs up right, use ghost to take a snapshot of the hard drive, then every time someone trashes a pc, or loads a bunch of spyware on it, you just pull the image down, and you're done in 5 minutes. That approach would be less expensive than upgrading all the OS's. Plus, you could load seti on all the images....

Hope this helps.
 

Baldy18

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Originally posted by: LastKnight
98 is really wide open, and you will likely need some variation of NT to get the security that you want.

Have you thought about using ghost to maintain the images on these pcs? Set all of the pcs up right, use ghost to take a snapshot of the hard drive, then every time someone trashes a pc, or loads a bunch of spyware on it, you just pull the image down, and you're done in 5 minutes. That approach would be less expensive than upgrading all the OS's. Plus, you could load seti on all the images....

Hope this helps.

and if the machines are identicle in hardware you would only need one image.:)
 

MoFunk

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I agree with the ghost solution. We do that here at work. Nobody really downloads anything they just screw around with the publis 98 boxes and mess things up. Whenever I see a machine start to act funny, boom, out comes my ghost disk! You can just ghost over your LAN. We have 1 system here that stores all of our images that we put into slave mode, then we boot the PC we want to ghost into master and point to the image we want and we're done!

A couple of other things you can try, I assume that these can all access the internet to game correct. You could disable to ability to download files with IE and you could go a step further and create your own version of IE that wont allow downloading period. We did that here with the administrative kit that comes with IE. You can do a lot with it and it is not that hard. Also I am not sure about this but coule you not use policy editor to make the user unable to install on those computers?