I suppose... I'm reading this article and most of the points I agree with and think are interesting. Although, if you live in a city next to a club you're going to get some noise -- why did you move there? I grew up in a house in Chicago with bars on both ends of the block. We usually got noise at night on the weekends and we dealt with it. Of course, those noisy people were also inconsiderate bastards that made noise in a neighborhood they didn't live in so...
Originally posted by: Ornery
Translation: He's mean to us Democrat/Socialist/greenies.
Hes not that nice to republicans either. Hes gone on for years about govt spending by both republicans and democrats.
Originally posted by: Ornery
Translation: He's mean to us Democrat/Socialist/greenies.
Maybe what he meant but definately not what I meant. Geraldo Rivera is a sensationalist. John S. has become much more of a sensationalist than when he first started working on prime time news reporting shows. I enjoy the content of his reporting but not his hysteric style so I no longer watch him.
Why not?
Country is filled with stupid people, and you can't just LET THEM BE. The government, unfortunately, DOES need to step in.
Problem with letting stupid people be stupid is that they still reproduce. If you failed at reproducing by being stupid, I'd have no problem with the government staying out of everyone's business. Stupidness would be bred out of the gene pool ASAP, and we'd have no problems.
ultimatebob
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Outsourcing sounds like a cool idea until it's YOUR turn to have your job outsourced overseas. Trust me, your Microeconomics class isn't going to help you much when you're forced to work at Walmart because your cushy accounting or IT job is now being done by two guys in India for half the price
What are you a communist? Seriously. You certainly cant be a conservative or liberal. Unless my sarcasm meter is broken.
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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Outsourcing sounds like a cool idea until it's YOUR turn to have your job outsourced overseas. Trust me, your Microeconomics class isn't going to help you much when you're forced to work at Walmart because your cushy accounting or IT job is now being done by two guys in India for half the price
That was one of my issues with his report. He never said how many people had to take lower paying or less desireable jobs after they lose their current ones to outsourcing.
Plus he never made any points about what impact it has to consumers concerning quality of product or quality of service. Dell has been seriously burned in that regard. They have been put to the flames for their overseas tech support and it's abysmal receivings from it's customers.
MYTH No. 1 Sharing Would Make the World a Better Place...
The point is, these things shake out on their own without government interference. People get jobs that can't be outsourced, consumers reap lower prices of goods made by outsourced labor, and Dell hires back some displaced workers. All without the government lifting a finger! Imagine that... :Q
Like anybody knows!
The point is, these things shake out on their own without government interference. People get jobs that can't be outsourced, consumers reap lower prices of goods made by outsourced labor, and Dell hires back some displaced workers. All without the government lifting a finger! Imagine that... :Q
Fenixgoon
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One of the teachers at my school told me about the Peruvian(?) economic revolution: poor peasants were allowed to own their own portions of land. Once in possession of the land, they were able to actually do something with it in order to make it more valuable = economic boom. I think it was in the 80's maybe? i don't recall exactly what he said, so don't quote me on every little bit.
step 1
privitization....
2....
3. Profit!
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And I've never said in ANY outsourcing related thread or post that the government should step in and do something to stop it.
What I have said is that it's a temporary fix that verywell could(and has) come back to haunt both consumers and business owners.
Idiots like you make me laugh, because you think you're pissing other people off, but in reality, you're just reducing the life of your equipment, and that makes me smile.
Keep using engine oil in your two-cycle engines. Just don't expect any help from me when you post a "My chainsaw/motorcycle/boat won't start" thread.
The equipment abuse pisses me off more than the pollution, and I'm a "treehugger". Enjoy your 2-cycle paperweights.
It is a nessecity of global capitolism. Hint Hint, the US is overpaid for its work.
The amazing thing is that the ones who fervently oppose outsourcing are usually also the ones who fervently oppose socialism.
Amused
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Not true at all. The most vocal critics of outsourcing are the Democrats and the Unions that support them.
The most vocal supporters of free trade are libertarians and libertarian minded republicans (not protectionist fools like Patrick Buchanan).
Vic
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No, it can't, Amused. Not every flat field can be instantly converted into farmland. The study of farmland soils is literally a science unto itself.
And that 90-95% of the US is undeveloped is very misleading. Much of the "undeveloped" land actually is already developed... as farmland, as forest land for future timber harvest, etc.
His urban sprawl section is simply wrong. He says poeple shouldn't force their lifestyle on others, but that is exactly what he and others do. Every single fscking city in north america is organized in the same horrible way - the endless identical subdivisions, the ugly, characterless big box stores and chain resturants with fscking patios on the parking lot. Me and others like me, what are we supposed to do? According to him, talking to city council is a no-no, voicing your opinion is a no-no, trying to change anything is a definate no-no. One might have thought that that is the whole point of local city councils and democracy, but apperantly, its not.
So where does that leave me and others like me? Emigrate. Great choice :roll:
So where does that leave me and others like me? Emigrate. Great choice :roll:
SP33Demon
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1) You will be forced to adapt, and most will eventually attain the standard of living you had before. 2) This adaptation will better society, because your new career will benefit society more because there is a need for it.Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Outsourcing sounds like a cool idea until it's YOUR turn to have your job outsourced overseas. Trust me, your Microeconomics class isn't going to help you much when you're forced to work at Walmart because your cushy accounting or IT job is now being done by two guys in India for half the price
That was one of my issues with his report. He never said how many people had to take lower paying or less desireable jobs after they lose their current ones to outsourcing.
Plus he never made any points about what impact it has to consumers concerning quality of product or quality of service. Dell has been seriously burned in that regard. They have been put to the flames for their overseas tech support and it's abysmal receivings from it's customers.
Not so hard to see, is it? Yeah I know, times will be tough while you work at WalMart and go to night school. The fact of the matter is, if you were outsourced to people who can barely speak English and you can't find a new job soon thereafter, your job probably didn't benefit society that much. So suck it up.
Being that television, according to your post above, is something stupid people watch, I guess that would leave you out of the gene pool too? I mean you post frequently in ATOT forums about television shows...
SP33Demon
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I think he did touch on that. He mentioned how hard it was for the couple laid off from the Levi's plant. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that people are going to have to tap into savings until they find a new job, and that consumer spending on a regional level will be down.
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