The First Taste of Barcelona

[BitByBit]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
Whats the absolute top tier to this sucker? The one thats suposed to battle it out against the V8 Penryn?

Socket F Mobo + 2 X Agena (Phenom) FX

There will be AM2 versions of the Phenom FX, but it will probably just be an unlocked, high-clocked version of the regular Phenom.

 

[91TTZ]

Being that Barcelona is so close architecturally to the Athlon64, I just can't see them having major problems ramping up the speed, especially this late in the game. It's not an entirely new architecture like the K5 was when they were transitioning from the 486, this is an incremental improvement over the Athlon64, much the same way that the Athlon64 was over the Athlon.

Production problems, that I can see but that can be easily fixed with time. Long story short, I don't think that 1.6 ghz is indicative of what it'll be able to do.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I thought Spica was going to be K8-based, not K10?

Also, it's a shame the whole benchmark was a sham . . . well sort of, the results were very strange to say the least.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: jhtrico1850
Those were proven to be false.

http://www.dailytech.com/Barce...st+Yet/article7291.htm

Did you compare the two links? That one that you posted was a different Barcelona benchmark that was proven to be fake.

 

[JackPack]

Originally posted by: jhtrico1850
"heard Bacelona has trouble scaling in the factory"
From who? I see this here though http://www.dailytech.com/artic...ld=1&red=1534#comments

Motherboard partners in Taiwan?

Originally posted by: jhtrico1850
"supposedy this rumor is confirmed by Taiwan partners secretly."
Where?

The Computex show happening right now in Taiwan?

 

[Phynaz]

From Charlies blog:

The ones floating at the show are so broken they are not worth benchmarking. They are stable enough to finish up platforms and BIOSes, which is what this round of samples was meant to do.

They are far from full clocked, half the FP/SSE resources are broken, and the memory controller is barely functional.

On the up side, when they get debugged, things will get better/faster, presumably by a lot.

On the down side, they are not out, not imminent, and Intel has a new product coming out.

-Charlie

 

[jhtrico1850]

I meant that Fudzilla is a proven "don't check source, yay web page hits" rumor mill. But wrong, my link was correctly in response to falsified Sandra scores.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: jhtrico1850
I meant that Fudzilla is a proven "don't check source, yay web page hits" rumor mill. But wrong, my link was correctly in response to falsified Sandra scores.

That dailytech article you linked made me laugh. Look at the first guy who posted. Talking about how "C2Ds will be a thing of the past"

Well duh! We all know better CPUs will be around but these are going to be mostly quad core CPUs. To be fair quad core CPUs will be faster in a variety of tasks. However, not everyone needs a quad core CPU and a fast dual core box would suffice for most needs for quite a while. The comparison between todays C2D that you can clock up past 3Ghz on air and the dual core offerings comming from AMD later need to be compared. The battle will be won or lost in the value oriented midrange and lower end markets where OEMs will look to build consumer grade media PCs.

That's my feeling now. All this talk about the best of the best is fine and dandy, but the market for such CPUs is comparatively small because of the pricing involved at that level ($1000+ for a CPU).

To illustrate my point better let me pose an example. An Intel CPU priced at ~$260 this july is a Q6600. It will be up to AMD to provide a level of performance at the ~$260 mark that competes well with or beats the Q6600. Then you take into account Overclocking and things can change again.