The First Comprehensive Review of the Surge

[nweaver]

Originally posted by: techs
You KNOW that in 2-3 days the righy propaganda machine will tell us how great the surge is working.

just like TODAY the LEFTY propoganda machine was at work....


Lets see here...right is wrong, left is wrong...yep, SNAFU

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Well honestly, is this a surprise to anyone? I don't think so. It's foolish to think that a little surge like this would do the trick when it would probably take hundreds if thousands to troops to secure Iraq right now. This surge is nothing but a desperation move by Bush because he simply has no other ideas.

The surge was a joke. This was Dumbya's attempt at diversion to protect his legacy. We had a "surge" months before. Not to mention that there are just as many private mercenaries as enlisted soldiers. So, just double all this bad news. Sneaky fscker that Dumya Admin is.

 

[Lemon law]

Lets see---if it takes about 150,000 troops to secure 146 out of 457 neighborhood, its going to take 469,520 troops to secure the other 311 neighborhoods. Sounds a lot like what Shinseki said before we invaded and also explains why I call the GWB Surge plan a mini surge. You can count on simple math.

 

[db]

Hey, tens of thousands dead, but multi-nationals now have fatter wallets!

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Shhh, don't tell ProfJohn

Dont tell Zendari/Sh!tyva either.

You left GeneralGrievous and a few others out. Who's next?

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
We're fighting the guys (the Sunni minority) who we really like to run Iraq; we're pretending to tolerate the guys (the Shiite majority) who we really like to NOT run Iraq.

The only guys who like us (the Kurds) are a minority who really want their own nation which we don't want, because doing so breaks up the demographic fiction that is present-day Iraq and would piss off Turkey, who have their own Kurdish "problem". So we'll probably piss them off, too, eventually.

It really feels like a textbook entry in the making, a case-study in what not to do; I can almost see the historians scratching their heads at early 21st century American foreign policy, wondering what in God's name the Bush League had in mind when they invaded Iraq.

Man I wish I could dig up my old pre-Iraq war posts because you pretty much summed up everything I was saying would happen to one degree or another in Iraq before we went into this mess.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Iraq has always been about the Military Industrial Complex. Some conservatives feel it is the only way to stabilize the economy. Bush has gotten his wish in spades. Although, he should have picked a country with a bigger naval presence to increase our Navy and bring back the battleships again.

Putin sees this as well, hence his recent decrying of our missile defense shield. Now watch as the Russian arms manufacturers start ramping up production.

Cold War 2 - It's good for the economy.

It's not good for economy. Have you seen the size of our national debt and who is buying it up?? Not good at all IMHO.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: shira
All Bush has to hope for now is that two-thirds of Congress doesn't turn anti-war before he leaves office. The U.S. WILL withdraw from Iraq with tail between its legs. Bush just wants it to be on someone else's watch, so wasting the lives of American's young soldiers in this doomed "surge" was any easy decision for him.

Yea I am sure that is EXACTLY what Bush was thinking... how can I kill more Americans... :roll:

That, and how to secure the oil for Haliburton even when they leave.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
We're fighting the guys (the Sunni minority) who we really like to run Iraq; we're pretending to tolerate the guys (the Shiite majority) who we really like to NOT run Iraq.

The only guys who like us (the Kurds) are a minority who really want their own nation which we don't want, because doing so breaks up the demographic fiction that is present-day Iraq and would piss off Turkey, who have their own Kurdish "problem". So we'll probably piss them off, too, eventually.

It really feels like a textbook entry in the making, a case-study in what not to do; I can almost see the historians scratching their heads at early 21st century American foreign policy, wondering what in God's name the Bush League had in mind when they invaded Iraq.

That's one of the most succinct summarization of Iraq i've read yet :thumbsup:

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Lets see---if it takes about 150,000 troops to secure 146 out of 457 neighborhood, its going to take 469,520 troops to secure the other 311 neighborhoods. Sounds a lot like what Shinseki said before we invaded and also explains why I call the GWB Surge plan a mini surge. You can count on simple math.

Yea each neighborhood is taking 1000 troops to secure :roll:

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Lets see---if it takes about 150,000 troops to secure 146 out of 457 neighborhood, its going to take 469,520 troops to secure the other 311 neighborhoods. Sounds a lot like what Shinseki said before we invaded and also explains why I call the GWB Surge plan a mini surge. You can count on simple math.

Yea each neighborhood is taking 1000 troops to secure :roll:

Yea, fifty troop escort so one guy can walk through a Bagdad market just like he would in the USA?

 

[tomywishbone]

I love this war:beer: I love this surge:thumbsup: