The final screwing by the boomers...

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Moonbeam

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Thanks for reading it. Hopefully it helps you understand the situation.
Sorry, can't further comment but to reaffirm I'm not taking the bate. But the matter will doubtlessly come up against the same or some different generation and I'll feel differently then particularly if it's some fresh new generational bigot. Can't offer you more now unless you want to pay for it, cash on the barrel head, as the ancient coopers among us are wont to say.
 

Jhhnn

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here is a good run down if you dare read it ;)


Heh. Poor Paul Begala. He *is* a Boomer, technically a late Boomer. He was born in 1961.

And poor JStorm, too. What he's worried about happening to him is what's already happening to Boomers wrt their parents.
 
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JSt0rm

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Heh. Poor Paul Begala. He *is* a Boomer, technically a late Boomer. He was born in 1961.

its ok for boomers to be critical of themselves right. We are talking about the generation as a whole not individuals. Something our resident boomers cant understand.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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thats a boomer victimhood mentality. I didnt say anyone should die.

You blamed Boomers in general with hatred so you should own your passion. This guy got all the misery you say he inflicted others simply because of his age. You don't get to weasle of of that. Compassionate bullshit.
 

ivwshane

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You blamed Boomers in general with hatred so you should own your passion. This guy got all the misery you say he inflicted others simply because of his age. You don't get to weasle of of that. Compassionate bullshit.

Wut?

All I hear from you is that you and by extension your generation, is they are not allowed to be criticized. That's a little hypocritical, don't you think?

Of course there is a difference between younger generations complaining about older generations and vice versa, do you know what that is? The younger generations aren't making policies that make it harder for you to improve your life while that's exactly what you're generation did.[/QUOTE]
 

pmv

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Given that there are fewer GenX than either Baby Boomers or Millennials (both of which involved a baby boom, rather obviously in the former case), I'm wondering whether that means they will will be _less_ resented when old and decrepit because they will be sufficiently small in number that they can be economically supported without much pain, and will basically escape notice as Millennials start feuding with Gen Z (both of which will outnumber Gen X)...or if GenX's low numbers will make them easy targets, lacking all collective electoral power?

Edit - asking for a friend.
 
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BUTCH1

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OP should realize that many people including "Boomers" simply did not make enough in wages during their working years to accumulate the kind of savings to pay for an extended amount of time in a nursing home. Younger generations do have a legit beef with fiscal irresponsibility though, the US Treasury's debt is massive and thanks to numb-nuts Trump it's growing exponentialy due to unneeded tax breaks. What I find puzzling is that many 20-30 somethig's I come across are 100% uninterested in politics, that needs to change, these insane fiscal irresponsibility's will have to be paid by someone. It won't be me, I'll de dead.
 
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Jhhnn

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Wut?

All I hear from you is that you and by extension your generation, is they are not allowed to be criticized. That's a little hypocritical, don't you think?

Of course there is a difference between younger generations complaining about older generations and vice versa, do you know what that is? The younger generations aren't making policies that make it harder for you to improve your life while that's exactly what you're generation did.
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That's not very prescient or even honest. There's a whole generation between Boomers & the Greatest generation, people who came of age between 1946 & 1964, people too young to have played a role in WW2. They & the GG elected Reagan, which is when it all started. The oldest Boomers were only 34 & the vast majority under 30 in 1980. They youngest weren't even old enough to vote.

It's important to understand that a lot of older Boomers developed a certain contempt for govt in general, largely because of the Draft & the WoD, particularly the war on marijuana & psychedelics. They were primed for the anti-gubmint pitch of right wing think tanks & media influence outfits that proliferated over the next couple of decades. Many have been deceived as a result of that.

There's a lot of bitterness, too, because lots of Boomers don't have it nearly as good as they'd hoped. Not at all. Retirement means poverty for many. They did the best they knew how with what they had & got screwed by the system they believed in. Every time they started to catch up from the last economic whoop-tee-doo they got hit by another.
 

ivwshane

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That's not very prescient or even honest. There's a whole generation between Boomers & the Greatest generation, people who came of age between 1946 & 1964, people too young to have played a role in WW2. They & the GG elected Reagan, which is when it all started. The oldest Boomers were only 34 & the vast majority under 30 in 1980. They youngest weren't even old enough to vote.

It's important to understand that a lot of older Boomers developed a certain contempt for govt in general, largely because of the Draft & the WoD, particularly the war on marijuana & psychedelics. They were primed for the anti-gubmint pitch of right wing think tanks & media influence outfits that proliferated over the next couple of decades. Many have been deceived as a result of that.

There's a lot of bitterness, too, because lots of Boomers don't have it nearly as good as they'd hoped. Not at all. Retirement means poverty for many. They did the best they knew how with what they had & got screwed by the system they believed in. Every time they started to catch up from the last economic whoop-tee-doo they got hit by another.

I understand that. Its why, as I said, I'm all for taking care of you guys and giving you the ability to enjoy the rest of your lives. But that doesn't change the fact that the boomer generation really, really, fucked over subsequent generations. I don't blame you or moonbeam specifically but I do hold your generation accountable.

Don't take it personal, recognize your generations mistakes and do what old people do best, warn the newer generations of your mistakes and shortfalls and what you could have done differently.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Don't take it personal, recognize your generations mistakes and do that old people do best, warn the newer generations of your mistakes and shortfalls.
That has a track record of working. Can I interest you in a pyramid scheme for retirement? :)
 

crashtech

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Does it even make sense to criticize "generations" instead of criticizing policies that were enacted at particular times? From there a critique of prevailing societal attitudes could be developed that would be far more illustrative of what to do or not to do. This business of scapegoating an entire generation is a version of grievance politics that's too flimsy to fly.
 

Jhhnn

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That has a track record of working. Can I interest you in a pyramid scheme for retirement? :)

How about a nice 401K instead of a pension? I mean, you're smart, right? So you can manage it great. You'll be rich! And you can take the money out if you really need it, too, like during the S&L crisis, the tech bust & the great recession. When you get old & take out the last of it, you can always blow your brains out.

I am extremely fortunate to have a pension. More people should have it so good but the modern free market job shuffle rules that out for most people.
 

JSt0rm

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How about a nice 401K instead of a pension? I mean, you're smart, right? So you can manage it great. You'll be rich! And you can take the money out if you really need it, too, like during the S&L crisis, the tech bust & the great recession. When you get old & take out the last of it, you can always blow your brains out.

I am extremely fortunate to have a pension. More people should have it so good but the modern free market job shuffle rules that out for most people.

i have a pension and a 401k ;)
 

Jhhnn

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I have it despite them. What kind of weak ass boomer let me get more then them with the deck stacked against me,. pathetic. ;)

If you could only blow your own horn a little more you could become a Republican.