The Fetus Video

[Newell Steamer]

It exists!

However, there is no harvesting of the brain or anyone stating it needs to stay alive to harvest it's brain.

The Time link has NO pictures or video. However, there IS a link in there that leads to the video, which is NSFW:
http://time.com/4053578/abortion-carly-fiorina-planned-parenthood/

Also, just as heads up - Breit Bart's site HAS video and images in the story's article. So, Google carefully.

The full source video, which is extremely graphic, lasts about 13 minutes, and shows a fetus being extracted from the mother, placed in a metal bowl, prodded with medical instruments and handled by someone in the room. At times the fetus appears to move, and at other times it appears to have a pulse. There are no images on the full video of any attempt to harvest the brain of the fetus, and there is no sound. Cunningham said the jump cuts in the video are the result of the camera being turned off and on.

Here is the thing; I don't know what an abortion looks like. So, I am not able to support the counterclaim towards this, which is that this is a miscarriage video and not an abortion video. I won't link those sites, as they are loaded with images of the video as well.

Nonetheless, I don't see anything being harvested, nor hear anyone giving directions to keep the fetus alive, in order to harvest it.

I am sure validation or refutes will crop up in the coming days. But, if this is indeed a miscarriage and not an abortion - this has to be a new low for the Right.

EDIT: Thank you Gonad the Barbarian

Real doctor 'splaining stuff:
https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2...premature-delivery-and-fiorina-supports-them/

Here are all the issues with the video from start to finish:

1. It is illegally and clandestinely shot. I feel very badly for the poor woman in question and wonder why Fiorina and our elected officials are not as outraged as I am about her violation and exploitation. I had second thoughts about watching it myself given the lack of consent from the woman, however, I felt if I could end the conversation about it faster by weighing in. Time magazine or Slate have links.

2. The prep of the patient. The physician (I’m assuming) pours surgical prep/cleaner on the woman’s perineum. We don’t do that anymore for spontaneous deliveries or for abortions that involve induction of labor. This tells me this video is at least 15 years old or from another country.

3. The delivery. It is a spontaneous delivery as the operator waits for the fetus to be expelled. This is what we do with a previable premature delivery. If this were shot mid way through a 2nd trimester abortion (meaning the Laminaria in the cervix, which are osmotic sticks that help the cervix dilate, had just been removed) it is highly unlikely the operator would have waited for a spontaneous expulsion.

4. The cord is clamped on the fetal side. If this were an abortion it would just be cut. Really. No one ever does this with an abortion as it serves no purpose.

5. Waiting for the placenta. The clamp is left on the placental end and at the end of the video the placenta still hasn’t delivered. If this were an abortion the placenta would be removed with suction immediately, no one would wait 11 minutes. Ever. Every abortion clinic has a suction machine.

6. There is no proof this video is in a Planned Parenthood clinic never mind in the United States. This could easily be an operating room.

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

Medically speaking, a miscarriage is an abortion if you want to argue technicalities and verbiage minus implied intent or popular definition.

Ergo its an abortion video... there, see how easy that was?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Well if it's this lady's, it's a miscarriage, and she's fine with the distortion and exploitation:
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/09/center-medical-progress-used-unauthorized

 

[feralkid]

Medically speaking, a miscarriage is an abortion if you want to argue technicalities and verbiage minus implied intent or popular definition.

Ergo its an abortion video... there, see how easy that was?

Can we get a real doctor to explain the difference?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Real doctor 'splaining stuff:
https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2...premature-delivery-and-fiorina-supports-them/

 

[Newell Steamer]

Can we get a real doctor to explain the difference?

And we won't accept the following 'substitutes';
- line graphs
- mentioning the killings in Chicago
- noting that Rosa Parks broke the law
- a picture of Putin

Thanks in advance.

 

[HomerJS]

Medically speaking, a miscarriage is an abortion if you want to argue technicalities and verbiage minus implied intent or popular definition.

Ergo its an abortion video... there, see how easy that was?

If its an abortion and it was spontaneous then God caused it. But...but, oh never mind.

 

[HomerJS]

BTW - tuned into Billo's show and they are still acting as if the video was an abortion performed at PP.

Even though the story of the woman who miscarried came out late morning. They will run with the lie for a long as possible.

Wonder how Carly Fiorina is going to dance away from this politically since she staked her entire last debate on it?

 

[glenn1]

Lump of parasitic tissue removed and future Democratic voter averted. Sounds like a good day's work.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

BTW - tuned into Billo's show and they are still acting as if the video was an abortion performed at PP.

Even though the story of the woman who miscarried came out late morning. They will run with the lie for a long as possible.

Wonder how Carly Fiorina is going to dance away from this politically since she staked her entire last debate on it?

She'll dance away with the press in the lead, that's how. Simply settling this is bad for ratings.

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

Can we get a real doctor to explain the difference?

National Institute of Health suffice?https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001488.htm

"A miscarriage may also be referred to as a 'spontaneous abortion'"

 

[Newell Steamer]

National Institute of Health suffice?https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001488.htm

"A miscarriage may also be referred to as a 'spontaneous abortion'"

The Right's claims are that this was medically induced, and subsequently the brain was harvested.

You do understand that is what is being discussed here, correct?

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

The Right's claims are that this was medically induced, and subsequently the brain was harvested.

You do understand that is what is being discussed here, correct?

Oh yeah, I totally get it.

My original post was simply to illustrate how to think like a repubelicken.

Guess I'll have to lay it on a little thicker next time..

 

[feralkid]

nm

 

[Newell Steamer]

Oh yeah, I totally get it.

My original post was simply to illustrate how to think like a repubelicken.

Guess I'll have to lay it on a little thicker next time..

Understood!

But, again, anyone that can prove this is indeed what Fiorina claimed (which is how it is presented) please do.

So far, and rather quickly, this seems to be just an outright lie.

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

Fiorina is as full of shit as the day is long...

 

[boomerang]

Lump of parasitic tissue removed and future Democratic voter averted. Sounds like a good day's work.

Not really because they're just importing Mexicans as replacements.

Oh, and does anyone know, I read that it's illegal to sell human organs. If so, why isn't Cecile Richards up on charges?

 

[boomerang]

So far, and rather quickly, this seems to be just an outright lie.

If so, when did lies become anything of importance to the left? Because Hillary.

 

[Newell Steamer]

If so, when did lies become anything of importance to the left? Because Hillary.

- WMDs
- Death Panels
- Ebola coming in from the southern border
- Organ harvesting of fully developed fetuses
- All migrants are rapists
- Obama is a Muslim
- Jesus wants you to bash homosexuals

v.

- e-mails

Well, you got us; we'll turn ourselves in to the local authorities in the morning and ask we be locked up for good to ensure we don't lie in order to destroy this country any further.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Not really because they're just importing Mexicans as replacements.

Oh, and does anyone know, I read that it's illegal to sell human organs. If so, why isn't Cecile Richards up on charges?

Have you contacted the proper law enforcement agencies and informed them of her 'crime'?

 

[Rakehellion]

Can we get a real doctor to explain the difference?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage

Miscarriage, also known as spontaneous abortion

 

[HumblePie]

Oh yeah, I totally get it.

My original post was simply to illustrate how to think like a repubelicken.

Guess I'll have to lay it on a little thicker next time..

Why would you use the term republican instead of anti-abortion religious zealot instead? I know plenty of republicans that have no problem with abortion before the third trimester unless there is a medical need for it after the third trimester. You have some really bad overly religious lame brains here trying to pull a fast one on the national media stage.

 

[sm625]

Like they're going to take a video of a baby actually being cut open. WTF? Who in the hell would film that?

 

[glenn1]

Like they're going to take a video of a baby actually being cut open. WTF? Who in the hell would film that?

Do you mean a lump of tissue? Don't get all squeamish now, enjoy the spectacle of the miracle of abortion up close and personal so you can truly see what you're advocating for. Just like those who vote for war, you should get to see the results first hand and understand what a dismembered body looks like, whether from an IED or vacuum suction.

 

[cliftonite]

Lump of parasitic tissue removed and future Democratic voter averted. Sounds like a good day's work.

Who knows he might have grown up to be a rabid, worthless fuck like you.