The Fed loans half trillion dollars to foreign banks

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: VChuck
I don't usually post too much here for obvious reasons. But the degree of psuedo intellectuallism defending what the federal reserve's actions are enough to make me throw up.
This is a older video,that is a history lesson as well.It's rather long series of video's, apologies
Money Masters how international bankers gained control in America

Of course there will be people in denial,the forces of darkness never sleeps.Begins between their ears.:frown:

One need know nothing at all to know, just from the title of the video, that it is total crack pop lunacy not worth the time to click. Also, given the utter asinity of this remark, 'people in denial,the forces of darkness never sleeps.Begins between their ears.:frown:" we can tell also the immaturity of poster we have here.

You, Sir, are a disease, an infection, a tumorous cancer on the body politic of America and as your number and voting power grow you will ultimately bring down America. You are a brainwashed ignorant nincompoop. As a certifiable nut case, you should doubtlessly be locked up, but your vitriol, hyperbole and generalized imbecility can always be matched by me because I never sleep. A nice big fat elephant tranquilizer dart to the brain should have the same effect as a musty dungeon in the bowls of the earth, good enough for the likes of you, not to mention you're probably a pimply-faced teenager who has never had sex.

 

[VChuck]

:roll: Quite the contrary sir,I am a old fart(48)Yes I could always use more sex,perhaps I should be locked up heh!I am quite imbecilic at times,(like responding to you)But the response that I got from you,is practically an endorsement. I thank you.From what I read of some your posts in these forums.Pleaaase.(oddly I agreed with some of your points)Thanks for your vehement reply.I was quite bored today.
By the way,did you even bother to watch the entire video? Are you some sort of a Jesuit co-adjutor? Just curious.
Are you on tranquilizers?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: VChuck
:roll: Quite the contrary sir,I am a old fart(48)Yes I could always use more sex,perhaps I should be locked up heh!I am quite imbecilic at times,(like responding to you)But the response that I got from you,is practically an endorsement. I thank you.From what I read of some your posts in these forums.Pleaaase.(oddly I agreed with some of your points)Thanks for your vehement reply.I was quite bored today.
By the way,did you even bother to watch the entire video? Are you some sort of a Jesuit co-adjutor? Just curious.
Are you on tranquilizers?

I think Moonbeam is saying that you'd be much more capable of making a legitimate argument against central banking if you'd read a book rather than watching conspiratorial videos.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: rchiu


Heh, so I see you are saying Fed is wrong no matter what. As long as they put some money out on the market, they are "printing money". Doesn't matter if the money is backed by something, or if the money supply is down for some reason or any one of the hundreds and thousands legitamate reasons why a central bank would put money on the market.

Yeap, try to explain concept to you people is having our lip on feds ass. Try to help you understand how the real economic and financial world works is covering up for fed. Well fine, go live in you little world and believe whatever that makes you happy.

You seem to be the only one confused about what the Fed is doing. Ask yourself where that half a trillion dollars came from? You can say the Fed, should be running the printing press at high speed, but you can't deny that is what the fed is doing.

Have you ever lent someone money? Have you ever borrowed money? Do you use a credit card? If you do/did, you are creating money out of thin air.

Do you think the first dollar was mined or picked from a tree? All dollars were "printed" for something at some point in time.

 

[LunarRay]

Let's see....

Who here believes that the international US dollar supply is comprised of printed bills? Keeping in mind now that the largest currently used denomination is the $100 dollar bill. (There are some 500, 1000, 5000 and 10000 and as I recall 100000 $ printed and around somewhere in Moonbeam's garage)

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: VChuck
I don't usually post too much here for obvious reasons. But the degree of psuedo intellectuallism defending what the federal reserve's actions are enough to make me throw up.
This is a older video,that is a history lesson as well.It's rather long series of video's, apologies
Money Masters how international bankers gained control in America

Of course there will be people in denial,the forces of darkness never sleeps.Begins between their ears.:frown:

One need know nothing at all to know, just from the title of the video, that it is total crack pop lunacy not worth the time to click. Also, given the utter asinity of this remark, 'people in denial,the forces of darkness never sleeps.Begins between their ears.:frown:" we can tell also the immaturity of poster we have here.

You, Sir, are a disease, an infection, a tumorous cancer on the body politic of America and as your number and voting power grow you will ultimately bring down America. You are a brainwashed ignorant nincompoop. As a certifiable nut case, you should doubtlessly be locked up, but your vitriol, hyperbole and generalized imbecility can always be matched by me because I never sleep. A nice big fat elephant tranquilizer dart to the brain should have the same effect as a musty dungeon in the bowls of the earth, good enough for the likes of you, not to mention you're probably a pimply-faced teenager who has never had sex.

Gee ya could have simply said 'Ya can read all about it'...
One can easily find sinister actions being put forth if they 'wear those glasses' or a simply normal transaction if they 'wear glasses that allow one to actually see' and assuming a bit of insight into the operations of the FED... one can deduce reality...
I'd agree that it is possible to pull a fast one... but usually the players are pretty smart... and unlikely to be found out but us common folks.. well.... :+)

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Contact your appropriate representatives and senators and demand they support and do everything they can to pass:

H.R.1207: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009 and S.604: Federal Reserve Sunshine Act of 2009

Use this link to help you find your appropriate contact....just input your zip code!

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-...deral-reserve-hr-1207/

 

[ElFenix]

i have to wonder whether any of these gotcha bernanke moments are real or whether they're questions he could answer given a briefing from someone at the fed who is in charge of these sorts of things.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: rchiu


Heh, so I see you are saying Fed is wrong no matter what. As long as they put some money out on the market, they are "printing money". Doesn't matter if the money is backed by something, or if the money supply is down for some reason or any one of the hundreds and thousands legitamate reasons why a central bank would put money on the market.

Yeap, try to explain concept to you people is having our lip on feds ass. Try to help you understand how the real economic and financial world works is covering up for fed. Well fine, go live in you little world and believe whatever that makes you happy.

You seem to be the only one confused about what the Fed is doing. Ask yourself where that half a trillion dollars came from? You can say the Fed, should be running the printing press at high speed, but you can't deny that is what the fed is doing.

Have you ever lent someone money? Have you ever borrowed money? Do you use a credit card? If you do/did, you are creating money out of thin air.

Do you think the first dollar was mined or picked from a tree? All dollars were "printed" for something at some point in time.

Maybe I missed it but WTF is you point?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: rchiu


Heh, so I see you are saying Fed is wrong no matter what. As long as they put some money out on the market, they are "printing money". Doesn't matter if the money is backed by something, or if the money supply is down for some reason or any one of the hundreds and thousands legitamate reasons why a central bank would put money on the market.

Yeap, try to explain concept to you people is having our lip on feds ass. Try to help you understand how the real economic and financial world works is covering up for fed. Well fine, go live in you little world and believe whatever that makes you happy.

You seem to be the only one confused about what the Fed is doing. Ask yourself where that half a trillion dollars came from? You can say the Fed, should be running the printing press at high speed, but you can't deny that is what the fed is doing.

Have you ever lent someone money? Have you ever borrowed money? Do you use a credit card? If you do/did, you are creating money out of thin air.

Do you think the first dollar was mined or picked from a tree? All dollars were "printed" for something at some point in time.

Maybe I missed it but WTF is you point?

You, as an individual, are printing money. Why are you giving the Fed shit for printing money? Hypocrisy much?

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: rchiu


Heh, so I see you are saying Fed is wrong no matter what. As long as they put some money out on the market, they are "printing money". Doesn't matter if the money is backed by something, or if the money supply is down for some reason or any one of the hundreds and thousands legitamate reasons why a central bank would put money on the market.

Yeap, try to explain concept to you people is having our lip on feds ass. Try to help you understand how the real economic and financial world works is covering up for fed. Well fine, go live in you little world and believe whatever that makes you happy.

You seem to be the only one confused about what the Fed is doing. Ask yourself where that half a trillion dollars came from? You can say the Fed, should be running the printing press at high speed, but you can't deny that is what the fed is doing.

Have you ever lent someone money? Have you ever borrowed money? Do you use a credit card? If you do/did, you are creating money out of thin air.

Do you think the first dollar was mined or picked from a tree? All dollars were "printed" for something at some point in time.

Maybe I missed it but WTF is you point?

You, as an individual, are printing money. Why are you giving the Fed shit for printing money? Hypocrisy much?

Huh, i don't know what you are doing in your basement but most people are not printing money.

Lets say I lend you 20 dollars. For me to lend you 20 dollars I must have 20 dollars otherwise I can't give you 20 dollars. Now when the Fed lends half a trillion dollars it does not have half a trillion dollars so it prints half a trillion dollars. Now that the fed has the money it can then lend it.

See the difference? Or do you need an animated version.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: smack Down
Huh, i don't know what you are doing in your basement but most people are not printing money.

Lets say I lend you 20 dollars. For me to lend you 20 dollars I must have 20 dollars otherwise I can't give you 20 dollars. Now when the Fed lends half a trillion dollars it does not have half a trillion dollars so it prints half a trillion dollars. Now that the fed has the money it can then lend it.

See the difference? Or do you need an animated version.

I know this is a hard concept so read carefully. When you lend me $20, you created $20. You are now owed $20, and I now have $20, for a total money supply of $40.

All the banks in the US deposit their money with the federal reserve. So yes, they have half a trillion dollars when they lend it out.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: VChuck
:roll: Quite the contrary sir,I am a old fart(48)Yes I could always use more sex,perhaps I should be locked up heh!I am quite imbecilic at times,(like responding to you)But the response that I got from you,is practically an endorsement. I thank you.From what I read of some your posts in these forums.Pleaaase.(oddly I agreed with some of your points)Thanks for your vehement reply.I was quite bored today.
By the way,did you even bother to watch the entire video? Are you some sort of a Jesuit co-adjutor? Just curious.
Are you on tranquilizers?

Oh man, 48, good grief you're fucking senile.

In case you didn't notice, I tried to match you in tone. It's my mirror thing. And no, there isn't any more chance I would watch that video than read bamace's Fed for Dummies book.

I am quite convinced you Fed Loons are completely crazy. And I am quite convinced and totally comfortable in that belief, withougt having any knowledge of the subject myself.

We have things in common that help me to see who you are with x-ray vision. You are a true believer and I am a true doubter. I don't believe any of the loons on the fed because I have heard and read millions of times from the experts thay you guys are total wackos.

There used to be this fed imbecile who would call up KQED and try to disguise his voice and on any topic he would launch into why that problem was all because of the Fed. You are as crazy as that idiot, Moonbeam, who says everything is self hate. You doubtless take great joy in your minority opinion, something like some Christians, who walk around with a martyrdom complex with tree trunks tied to their backs saying beat me beat me it brings me close to God. You are definitely not getting enough sex, though at 48 I can imagine why. Golly. Probably word that the economy is up from the stimulus program puts you into depression.

I get the Mormons at my door all the time and the holy rollers, but I don't read any of their shit either. It's just too bad I know nothing and can't technically put you in your place, though I bet LunarRay could but he won't. He's like a thorium node. You have to use a pick to get to the meat and it requires 450 in mining.

 

[miniMUNCH]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: VChuck
:roll: Quite the contrary sir,I am a old fart(48)Yes I could always use more sex,perhaps I should be locked up heh!I am quite imbecilic at times,(like responding to you)But the response that I got from you,is practically an endorsement. I thank you.From what I read of some your posts in these forums.Pleaaase.(oddly I agreed with some of your points)Thanks for your vehement reply.I was quite bored today.
By the way,did you even bother to watch the entire video? Are you some sort of a Jesuit co-adjutor? Just curious.
Are you on tranquilizers?

Oh man, 48, good grief you're fucking senile.

In case you didn't notice, I tried to match you in tone. It's my mirror thing. And no, there isn't any more chance I would watch that video than read bamace's Fed for Dummies book.

I am quite convinced you Fed Loons are completely crazy. And I am quite convinced and totally comfortable in that belief, withougt having any knowledge of the subject myself.

We have things in common that help me to see who you are with x-ray vision. You are a true believer and I am a true doubter. I don't believe any of the loons on the fed because I have heard and read millions of times from the experts thay you guys are total wackos.

There used to be this fed imbecile who would call up KQED and try to disguise his voice and on any topic he would launch into why that problem was all because of the Fed. You are as crazy as that idiot, Moonbeam, who says everything is self hate. You doubtless take great joy in your minority opinion, something like some Christians, who walk around with a martyrdom complex with tree trunks tied to their backs saying beat me beat me it brings me close to God. You are definitely not getting enough sex, though at 48 I can imagine why. Golly. Probably word that the economy is up from the stimulus program puts you into depression.

I get the Mormons at my door all the time and the holy rollers, but I don't read any of their shit either. It's just too bad I know nothing and can't technically put you in your place, though I bet LunarRay could but he won't. He's like a thorium node. You have to use a pick to get to the meat and it requires 450 in mining.

You are aware that if everyone knew nothing about the issues, and simply believed whatever the 'experts' said, then mass media would control the opinion and course of our country...

 

[VChuck]

Thanks for the link Bamacre, did'nt know about this book.Will look into it ,Honestly.
Problem is that the issues facing us today goes alot deeper than this book you linked me to

Moonbeam, Fed's for dummies hilarious,Ha!naw senility has'nt set in yet,I'm a young 48,whippersnapper."Don't make me get my cane out boy"Damn young-un's nowadays!no respect for elder's.sign o the times I guess

I am not one of those mainstream Christians either,I despise those charismaniac ,prosperity types that take things out of context and following after doctrines of demons and want to have "Their ears tickled"to suit their own beliefs and pockets.Matter of fact thats all you see "mostly"on so called Christian television.Makes me sick. :disgust:

Don't belong to the other extremist cult type on the outer fringe either.Hmm maybe I'll start one(Dang thats it! great idea!!!)
Stimulus packages,economy is up huh,lets see how long this lasts.Not long I'll wager.like CARS for clunkers.Sayonara!

Truth is I kinda enjoy this exchange Moonbeamer,pretty stimulating.Maybe I'll come beat on your door one day,asking for a donation,cause I'm worried about your soul !:music:

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Huh, i don't know what you are doing in your basement but most people are not printing money.

Lets say I lend you 20 dollars. For me to lend you 20 dollars I must have 20 dollars otherwise I can't give you 20 dollars. Now when the Fed lends half a trillion dollars it does not have half a trillion dollars so it prints half a trillion dollars. Now that the fed has the money it can then lend it.

See the difference? Or do you need an animated version.

So what part of foreign central bank have to deposit their currency at Fed with a contract to buy it back with the same exchange rate before Fed send them the money don't you understand.

Before Fed swap let's say 1million USD, they will get 1million USD worth of Yen for example. So fed already got 1million dollar worth of currency in their deposit when they send 1million USD to other central bank. So that's like your having 20 dollar first before you can lend it out, except it's better cause that's not your own 20 dollar, other people give you something worth 20 dollar for you to give them that 20 dollar.

This is not loan, this is not give a way, this is swap of equal value commodity. Nothing is create, only transaction done is exchange of stuff and a contract of exchange it back in a future date. (a contract backed by the credit worthiness of entire country)

Get a f'ing clue mang.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: VChuck
Thanks for the link Bamacre, did'nt know about this book.Will look into it ,Honestly.
Problem is that the issues facing us today goes alot deeper than this book you linked me to

Moonbeam, Fed's for dummies hilarious,Ha!naw senility has'nt set in yet,I'm a young 48,whippersnapper."Don't make me get my cane out boy"Damn young-un's nowadays!no respect for elder's.sign o the times I guess

I am not one of those mainstream Christians either,I despise those charismaniac ,prosperity types that take things out of context and following after doctrines of demons and want to have "Their ears tickled"to suit their own beliefs and pockets.Matter of fact thats all you see "mostly"on so called Christian television.Makes me sick. :disgust:

Don't belong to the other extremist cult type on the outer fringe either.Hmm maybe I'll start one(Dang thats it! great idea!!!)
Stimulus packages,economy is up huh,lets see how long this lasts.Not long I'll wager.like CARS for clunkers.Sayonara!

Truth is I kinda enjoy this exchange Moonbeamer,pretty stimulating.Maybe I'll come beat on your door one day,asking for a donation,cause I'm worried about your soul !:music:

Ah.... A breath of fresh air...


Beat on his cage you mean... Well... after they stop injecting him with that Thorazine, that is... before that he's likely to be digesting an arm bone before the sun passes overhead.

But, regarding the FED... I'd opine the best way to understand them folks sittin there for 14 years at a pop is to devise some scheme that if you could implement it for some untoward purpose (hypothetically of course) you could undermine or enrich some individual or nation or create a quid pro quo that you or your group could benefit... Create an agenda iow... and make it happen, Scotty.

You'd have to use current law, of course... and you can even assume that Congress would buy off on a plausable denial IF the scheme somehow was uncovered... Always best to have a dual pathway, however... iow, not many can see which way the cars travel and they assume if there are two lanes the cars go both ways... hehehehehhehe

 

[bamacre]

Moonbeam calling other people wackos always makes me smile.

 

[VChuck]

LunarRay,actually I am devising something to the effect which you mentioned.I am trying to keep it honest,well mostly... uhh,if you know what i mean.
I love pulling stunts like I used to do in the past.Mostly On our inept local crooked law enforcement here in FL.
Made then look like fools many times.as you can imagine it's pretty dangerous so I layed off for quite a # of years( very satisfying though)
and due to my Christian beliefs I have desisted.

But not anymore, You see it's in my blood.I recently discovered my ancestral roots.

True American revolutionary patriots that went against King George the III, 1st Earl of ******.He gave a speech that went against unfair taxation of American colonists and got him thrown out of Parliament.Many towns and cities are named after him in the USA . ( freaking amazing)because He was loved by the American colonists.

Another one of my notable ancestors was fighting the New World Order,Tyranny,The Central Bank of England, and for our Constitution. has a seal That I am going to adopt.

Sorry for the egotistical rant,but it's really weird that my passions were my ancestor's passion also.(really weird)

today my distant cousin who I never met who is a official member "daughters of American revolution" contacted me via email to confirm my recently deceased mother's maiden name for our ancestral tree.
Seems I inadvertantly found my destiny,
Now,I 'm officially a wackjob,Right Moonbeam?!albeit a Patriotic one.depends on your perspective I guess!
Seems as I am in good company though!

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: VChuck
:roll: Quite the contrary sir,I am a old fart(48)Yes I could always use more sex,perhaps I should be locked up heh!I am quite imbecilic at times,(like responding to you)But the response that I got from you,is practically an endorsement. I thank you.From what I read of some your posts in these forums.Pleaaase.(oddly I agreed with some of your points)Thanks for your vehement reply.I was quite bored today.
By the way,did you even bother to watch the entire video? Are you some sort of a Jesuit co-adjutor? Just curious.
Are you on tranquilizers?

Oh man, 48, good grief you're fucking senile.

In case you didn't notice, I tried to match you in tone. It's my mirror thing. And no, there isn't any more chance I would watch that video than read bamace's Fed for Dummies book.

I am quite convinced you Fed Loons are completely crazy. And I am quite convinced and totally comfortable in that belief, withougt having any knowledge of the subject myself.

We have things in common that help me to see who you are with x-ray vision. You are a true believer and I am a true doubter. I don't believe any of the loons on the fed because I have heard and read millions of times from the experts thay you guys are total wackos.

There used to be this fed imbecile who would call up KQED and try to disguise his voice and on any topic he would launch into why that problem was all because of the Fed. You are as crazy as that idiot, Moonbeam, who says everything is self hate. You doubtless take great joy in your minority opinion, something like some Christians, who walk around with a martyrdom complex with tree trunks tied to their backs saying beat me beat me it brings me close to God. You are definitely not getting enough sex, though at 48 I can imagine why. Golly. Probably word that the economy is up from the stimulus program puts you into depression.

I get the Mormons at my door all the time and the holy rollers, but I don't read any of their shit either. It's just too bad I know nothing and can't technically put you in your place, though I bet LunarRay could but he won't. He's like a thorium node. You have to use a pick to get to the meat and it requires 450 in mining.

You are aware that if everyone knew nothing about the issues, and simply believed whatever the 'experts' said, then mass media would control the opinion and course of our country...

Are you aware that I am the King of not listening to experts? There are cases where the experts are right. They are like a million dead flies in a Chinese restaurant. A million flies can't be wrong when it comes to good Chinese food.

 

[Moonbeam]

VC: Now,I 'm officially a wackjob,Right Moonbeam?!

It wouldn't surprise but I like you anyway. Most real fanatics haven't any sense of humor. My guess is you're a fine person who is just deluded. Maybe Lunar Ray can help you with that.

He has a bad pedigree, sadly, being of Irish blood, and he totally sucks as an egotist. But using water boarding I was able to get him to confess to having about 5 degrees, and to being a professor of economics where he has a PhD and is a CFO of a company. He's also a pretty good tank and healer in WOW.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Moonbeam calling other people wackos always makes me smile.

You belong to this weird Fed cult. You are a member of one of the most discredited fringe groups in America. You even link to your Bible and have suckered another poor deluded fellow to infect himself with it. I'm already having trouble keeping him from riding off in the night thinking he's Paul Revere.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: bamacre
Moonbeam calling other people wackos always makes me smile.

You belong to this weird Fed cult. You are a member of one of the most discredited fringe groups in America. You even link to your Bible and have suckered another poor deluded fellow to infect himself with it. I'm already having trouble keeping him from riding off in the night thinking he's Paul Revere.

Opposition to central banking is nothing new, and no conspiracy theory. We've already rid ourselves of two, just looking to knock off the 3rd.

 

[Moonbeam]

Nut Case Central

The federal reserve is like radiation. It's way over the heads of the average mind. It's like a poison gas you can't comprehend. All you know is that your self hate is projected out there into the nebulous, an encircling sea of dragons, so many invisible things out to get you. It's all just the self induced paranoia of self hate. They are out to get you. All that is necessary to cure the ills of the Fed is psychotherapy.

But oddly enough, people say it's me whose crazy when I tell them they are. You would think that even a five year old would realize that when they see everybody else as crazy, they are probably crazy too?????? Huh Huh Huh?????

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: bamacre
Moonbeam calling other people wackos always makes me smile.

You belong to this weird Fed cult. You are a member of one of the most discredited fringe groups in America. You even link to your Bible and have suckered another poor deluded fellow to infect himself with it. I'm already having trouble keeping him from riding off in the night thinking he's Paul Revere.

Opposition to central banking is nothing new, and no conspiracy theory. We've already rid ourselves of two, just looking to knock off the 3rd.

you can get rid of toilet paper too but it will come back.