The FBI needs our help...

[hpacov]

Check the original scans here. http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/march/cryptanalysis_032911/cryptanalysis_032911

I was in a band for many years and to me this looks a LOT like someone writing a song. I have seen scribblings eerily similar to this scrawled across whiteboards in jam rooms and I have made my own notes which bear remarkable resemblance to this. Makes sense he would do that in his own personal crypto as well. Look at the original scans in the link above. The first document looks like hes working on the chorus. The first set of parenthesis could be the name of the songs. Then there is about 5 lines of cipher which all have similar endings because they rhyme. The cipher in the parenthesis after that could be possible alternatives to the last line of the chorus.

In the second note, it looks like hes got it going chorus - verse - chorus - verse - then some letters and numbers separated by dashes which could indicate some kind of song structure ie: how many times to repeat before the outro. (oddly the last word of the note is xdlrx which would fit with outro)

was this guy in a band? did he want to be? did he record anything? musician friends? Tell me what you guys think, could I be right? or am I out of my mind.

 

[alkemyst]

being the FBI failed at this I am wondering if it's indeed possible that this is based on a foreign language.

Also to another poster, note one ends in a ) not a 7.

 

[hpacov]

I doubt its based on a foreign language. He has been doing this since he was a kid. Likely it started a simple cipher and has evolved into its own language with its own grammar, syntax and spelling. It is likely to be unsolvable with math alone. More context would be required and a lot of luck.

 

[alkemyst]

Last two posts on this page are interesting:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread682092/pg4

 

[alkemyst]

In the one note lines 9, 10, 11 look like a list of similar things. That may be a good starting point.

Oddly, I am wondering why such a big FBI case (and why the FBI is involved) has no original story available anywhere. almost all the google hits are about the codes.

To others that wonder why someone would leave something "so complicated in their pockets to find", chances are these weren't suicide notes and the victim wasn't leaving them as such.

 

[ussfletcher]

In the one note lines 9, 10, 11 look like a list of similar things. That may be a good starting point.

Oddly, I am wondering why such a big FBI case (and why the FBI is involved) has no original story available anywhere. almost all the google hits are about the codes.

To others that wonder why someone would leave something "so complicated in their pockets to find", chances are these weren't suicide notes and the victim wasn't leaving them as such.

I think this was more of his journal. Although I haven't been able to confirm it, I suspect he may have been mildly autistic.

 

[Lotheron]

From the comments on the page. This dude looks like he's on the right track:

Start with the obvious, which is to check the "key" at the end.

The time key is at the bottom of page 2 (which was written first and as a log of medications: this is critical for bipolars to get their meds exactly right, which takes years of variation and must be coded, since doctors require that bipolars stay closeted due to publicty regarding violent crimes) weekday triggers indicate a work trigger, month patterns indicate seasonal disorder usually starting in the 4th qtr as indicated here. Years indicate home environment. Times of day for meds indicate sleeplessness or need for a stimulant in the morning which is common in early years.

Bottom of page 2:

D-W-M-Y M,D,L = Day weekday month year: morning day or latenight
These are time designations that are critical to get your meds right with bipolar and are coded for privacy

Body of page 2:

26MLSE74SPRKSE29KENOSOLE173R7RSE

2x 6mg Serenace in 1974

99-84.B2UNEPLSENCRSEAOLTSENSKSENRSE

1999 through 1988

HMCRENMRESCBE ½MUNDDLSE

1/2 tablet

NSREOUSEPUTSEWLDUCBE(3XORL)

(3 times oral)

On page 1 are lists of manic episodes, as required to diagnose bipolar:

(FLRSEPRSEONDE71NCBE)
From late september really severe episode on December 1971: No cause before episode
(CDNSEPRSEONSF/DE74NCBE)
Chronic Depression in September, really severe episode on the start of December in 1974, no cause before episode

These logs are needed forever and are why this has been so private for so long.

Perhaps the FBI already figured out that part. Gotta give the poster some props though.

 

[conculascc]

I insist on the alphabet kind of reading. If you group ALL the words ending with an E, you ONLY get groups that seem an alphabet...

Be Ce De
Le Me Ne
Re Se Te
We

 

[IronWing]

Not ROT13 I give up.

 

[Leros]

since the idea is to get this looked at by 'fresh eyes', releasing their work would be counter productive!

Not necessarily. I can look at somebody else's work and find mistakes or come up with new ideas from it.

 

[BoomerD]

WTF? We have people joining just to post in this thread?
I suspect FBI undercover agents...some of youse guys are in trouble if they start wandering around reading other posts...

 

[Sukhoi]

WTF? We have people joining just to post in this thread?
I suspect FBI undercover agents...some of youse guys are in trouble if they start wandering around reading other posts...

lol it is a little suspicious.

 

[Lalakai]

reminds me of another gov't agency that requested help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XMr3QO2Sbc

 

[bignateyk]

I figured it out. It's Pig Latin.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Glad they're earning that 6 figure salary!

 

[FM2n]

Windows 7 Registration Key!

KLSE-LRSTE-TRSE-TRSE-MKSEN-MRSE

 

[beatn]

I figured out what the victim was trying to say. You know how the notes section has 99.84.5. Well based on a website, the NCBE of the World started an organization in 1984-5. Coincidence?

 

[olds]

I figured out what the victim was trying to say. You know how the notes section has 99.84.5. Well based on a website, the NCBE of the World started an organization in 1984-5. Coincidence?

wwybywb?

 

[zinfamous]

Be...sure...to...drink....your...oval...Ovaltine?

A crummy commercial?

/thread


anyway, I'd imagine that it's just gibberish. no real message.

 

[yoyois]

A key question might be why is there such a large amount of repetition? what sort of data or cipher would lead to that?

possible answers:
repetitive data with a fixed cipher
single letters being represented by a group of letters
groups of letters being used as markup to deliminate the actual data
cipher text being obfuscated with ignorable sequences

...and I'm sure there are more!

Yes it could be that or the message is cripted whit a keyword ...

Another unusual thing are the digits and the way are spread. I'm not quite sure. But keep going "every code has a crack".

 

[Saint Nick]

What is with the random posters joining and posting in this thread?

 

[KaOTiK]

Obviously he found an alien artifact and it beamed this stuff into his head so that when the mothership arrived he be able to save mankind. But now that some wacko killed him we are all screwed in 2012.

 

[Drako]

Wow, another new poster necro thread. WTF?

Are hpacov, conculascc, beatn, and yoyois the same preson?

 

[Miramonti]

It says something about bringing Seinfeld back and how a retard is going to rule the free world next year.

 

[Jodell88]

I wouldn't call it a necro.