The FBI Is Struggling to Hire Hackers Who Don't Smoke Weed. Really??

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Well I am confused, are they really missing out on hiring super geniuses because of the whole policy on marijuana? Are there really that many programmers, and hackers that smoke weed regularly that are in fact "would be top picks" that they pass up? I always thought pot made a person slow at thinking? Or is this all hype?

It depends on the person. I used to get slow and withdrawn as if i was drunk after an evening of slowly drinking. But i know enough people who hardly seem affected by it or are just more relaxed. Brain chemistry and wiring is different from person to person. It also depends on how you smoke. You can smoke several joints one after the other or just take a nip once in a while. It is similar as drinking alcohol.
 

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Hiring can be a tough game. I tried to filter out all of the people who have consumed caffeine in the last year, but all of the candidates seemed very bored in the interview.
What do you have against caffeine?
 

lamedude

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I'm really surprised the FBI can't find programmers who aren't stoners. When I think computer programmer, I think of guys who look like this:

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How about this?
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I can't put my finger on it, but this guy seems better qualified.
 

Spungo

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How about this?
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I can't put my finger on it, but this guy seems better qualified.
Put a scruffy beard on him and we're good to go

I wonder if Rick has a drug problem. He always seems to be squinting.
 

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Boston FBI agent who killed Tsarnaev friend was target of brutality suits with Oakland police

The city of Oakland, Calif., is investigating the $52,000-a-year pension of a retired police officer who later joined the FBI and who fatally shot a friend of suspected Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in May 2013.

Aaron McFarlane, identified last week as the agent who shot Ibragim Todashev during an interrogation in Orlando, has collected the pension since he retired from the Oakland Police Department in 2004 at age 31, say California officials. He apparently received the pension for medical reasons, court records say, though he passed the FBI’s stringent physical requirements when he joined the bureau four years later.

McFarlane stands to receive the money, with cost-of-living increases, for the rest of his life, say officials of California’s pension system for public employees. Court records say McFarlane retired after suffering leg injuries on the job. Officials said disability pensions for on-the-job injuries are tax free.

...The investigation follows a Globe report last week detailing McFarlane’s troubled history with the Oakland Police Department. During his four-year tenure, he exercised his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in a police corruption trial after a prosecutor suggested he falsified a police report and then testified under immunity. He also was the subject of two police brutality lawsuits and four internal affairs investigations, records show.


The disability benefit that McFarlane is collecting under the California Public Employees' Retirement System is awarded when a worker is unable to perform the usual duties of his or her current position "due to an illness or injury that is expected to be permanent or of an undetermined duration," said Joe DeAnda, a CalPERS spokesman.

Those on disability retirement are banned from doing similar work for any other government agency in California.

Oakland spokeswoman Karen Boyd said the lifetime payments that McFarlane receives include a 2 percent cost-of-living allowance for each of the past 10 years.

The federal law enforcement agent who fatally shot a 27-year-old acquaintance of suspected Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev last year has been linked to other violent outbursts while on the job, according to the Boston Globe.

“McFarlane had worked at the troubled Oakland department from 2000 to 2004, during the biggest police corruption scandal in the city’s history,” Sacchetti wrote, and later pleaded the Fifth to avoid incriminating himself during testimony related to the probe.

The FBI is okay with recruiting disabled former Oakland cops that have a history of violence. But not okay with anyone that has smoked pot...

Anyone else having a hard time feeling sympathy for the FBI and their inability to recruit hackers?

Uno
 

Harrod

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I had at one point thought about perusing a career with them, not too sure if I have the skill set that they want. The term Hacker IMO could mean anything from a network guy to some kind of security genius. For the record I have never smoked pot if there are any FBI recruiters out there looking at this.
 

zanejohnson

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I had at one point thought about perusing a career with them, not too sure if I have the skill set that they want. The term Hacker IMO could mean anything from a network guy to some kind of security genius. For the record I have never smoked pot if there are any FBI recruiters out there looking at this.


then you dont qualify.......if IT/security/code/ hardware/deploy dont run together in your brainspace....you're not it.


if you can do all of that..........if you can walk into any 1000+ machine client/server application, look at lights on a panel, and begin to zoom in on the problem....that's what they mean.....

if not.... then they are far behind.....

i can do that......and i'm gonna do heroin and smoke pot and probably some others at the same time......

you know why???

because i understand that the only foreign data a human machine ever sees is external stimuli, which mostly comes in the form of drugs..

because,

it's really not about a job on the earthly realm, it's more about, hacking the mind..................and that's the only way there.


in terms of working for a UNITED STATES security agency........no, fuck that.


i'll never use my wisdom for anything positive, in the direction, they have faced this country........it's hitleresque
 
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DigDog

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pot smoking idiot:

edit: there was supposed to be a ing of carl sagan here ...
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AyashiKaibutsu

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Nice, so if we all get to do that, why have them at all and just go with what we each think are "just/logical" things? Why have laws at all? If only there were a way that the people in society could collectively get their decisions codified into some standard binding rules........ oh, wait. ;)

What's your view on "jury nullification?"
 

zanejohnson

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What's your view on "jury nullification?"

it doesnt work, because in small towns, there's such things as the good ole boy system

for one....... you'd never have a chance to make to a jury trial....and if you do, when you get there, basically, it's so stacked against you (the DA and the judge have already decided the outcome... AND THEY ARE IN CONTROL.....it doesnt matter if you were fucking johny cochran level attorney.....they'll just say..... judge decides this is our sentence... jury trial DOES NOT WORK PERIOD...it's only a show, for the masses to make them think they have such thing as jurys.
 

unokitty

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it doesnt work, because in small towns, there's such things as the good ole boy system

for one....... you'd never have a chance to make to a jury trial....and if you do, when you get there, basically, it's so stacked against you (the DA and the judge have already decided the outcome... AND THEY ARE IN CONTROL.....it doesnt matter if you were fucking johny cochran level attorney.....they'll just say..... judge decides this is our sentence... jury trial DOES NOT WORK PERIOD...it's only a show, for the masses to make them think they have such thing as jurys.
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Since only 4% of cases get to a jury, I'll agree with you that jury nullification isn't relevant.

On the other hand, I'm going to disagree about Johnny Cochran. If I ever get in legal trouble, I'm going to dig him up, stuff him, and have him represent me...

Uno
 

cabri

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Boston FBI agent who killed Tsarnaev friend was target of brutality suits with Oakland police








The FBI is okay with recruiting disabled former Oakland cops that have a history of violence. But not okay with anyone that has smoked pot...

Anyone else having a hard time feeling sympathy for the FBI and their inability to recruit hackers?

Uno

Oakland should be reviewing the disability case unless the FBI physical standards are laxer than Oakland PD.

In general any job related disability for a public employee should be reviewed at the 1,5 & 10 year mark to ensure that the disability still exists and is a true disability.
 

Zorkorist

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Pretty sure code-heads get off on shifting bits left, and then right, and then left again.

-John
 

OverVolt

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Since only 4% of cases get to a jury, I'll agree with you that jury nullification isn't relevant.

On the other hand, I'm going to disagree about Johnny Cochran. If I ever get in legal trouble, I'm going to dig him up, stuff him, and have him represent me...

Uno

That might as well say most cases settled by plea bargain, because thats what happens. You rob someone at gunpoint, so an armed robbery charge. They will peg it down to assault and theft if the guy pleads guilty, something like that. Saves them the court costs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plea_bargain

Plea bargaining is a significant part of the criminal justice system in the United States; the vast majority (roughly 90%)[28] of criminal cases in the United States are settled by plea bargain rather than by a jury trial.

Yup.
 
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