The FACTS on Republican Gerrymandering.

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  1. techs

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    http://www.motherjones.com/politics...ives-election-chart?google_editors_picks=true

    Most Americans voted for Democratic representation in the House. The votes are still being counted, but as of now it looks as if Democrats have a slight edge in the popular vote for House seats, 49 percent-48.2 percent, according to an analysis by the Washington Post. Still, as the Post's Aaron Blake notes, the 233-195 seat majority the GOP will likely end up with represents the GOP's "second-biggest House majority in 60 years and their third-biggest since the Great Depression."

    In Pennsylvania, Democratic candidates received half of the votes in House contests, but Republicans will claim about three-quarters of the congressional seats. The same is true in North Carolina. More than half the voters in that state voted for Democratic representation, yet Republicans will fill about 70 percent of the seats. Democrats drew more votes in Michigan than Republicans, but they'll take only 5 out of the state's 14 congressional seats.

    Republicans point to Illinois and Maryland as examples of Democrats playing the same game, and it is true that Democrats in those states drew maps favorable to their interests. In Maryland, Democrats got 62 percent of the combined vote in House races and 88 percent of the congressional seats; in Illinois they won 54 percent of the vote and about two-thirds of the congressional seats.

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    So how did Republicans keep their House majority despite more Americans voting for the other party—something that has only happened three times in the last hundred years, according to political analyst Richard Winger? Because they drew the lines.
     
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  2. nehalem256

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    None of that is proof of gerrymandering.

    What you seem to be advocating for it is just having a national HoR popular vote and assigning representatives based off that.
     
  3. DaveSimmons

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    The chart really should play fair and show the Democratic gerrymandering properly for Illinois and Maryland -- is it 4:1 for Maryland, or worse?
     
  4. techs

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    In many states Democrats only count as about 3/5ths a white, err, Republican voter.
     
  5. thraashman

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    Gerrymandering is wrong no matter what party does it. Redistricting needs to be done by a non partisan group by federal edict. I'm personally in favor of severe punishments and beatings for those who try to wrongfully steal elections. So we can beat like 15% of Democrats and 98% of Republicans.
     
  6. Pr0d1gy

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    lol Quoted for truth.
     
  7. Pacemaker

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    Look at the 4th and 17th congressional districts in IL and tell me that Democrats aren't just as bad. There needs to be better rules on how these districts are created.

    Wikipedia has some of the most blatant examples:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering#Effect
     
  8. nehalem256

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    There is really no such thing as a non partisan group.

    Now of course we could look at say Pennsylvania which is considered to be an example of Republican gerrymandering

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_General_Assembly

    I see nothing there to suggest unfairness in the process that would advantage Republicans.
     
  9. EagleKeeper

    EagleKeeper Discussion Club Moderator<br>Elite Member
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    Allocation of the states Representative to the House in Congress and their local legislature is a states right and responsibility.

    Not the Federal government telling the state who should vote for whom.
     
  10. pcgeek11

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    the democrats only complain because they were on the losign end of some redistricting.

    It is OK when they do it, but not the other guy.

    The voters decided 2 years ago that they wanted their state carved up by the politicians within certain boundaries.

    they also made that decision 12 years ago and 22 years ago and 32; Get the pattern.

    Every 10 years the voters choice of government representation determines who controls the starting line.

    some people think that they know better who the voters should choose; even those that do not live in the same district and/or state.

    Similar to China or England telling us who should be out president.
     
  12. EagleKeeper

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    so once you get rid of the opponent; where are the check and balances.

    It has been demonstrated that the Democrats will do the same if the voters give them a chance.

    Apparently, a large majority of the voters do not like the local democrats to have such chances - they do not trust them.
     
  13. Hayabusa Rider

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    I swear I'm going to vote Republican next time. Get off my damn lawn! :p