The European Parliament has voted in favour of Article 13

[UglyCasanova]

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/eu-article-13-vote-article-17

European politicians have voted to pass Article 13 and Article 11 as part of sweeping changes to regulation around online copyright. The European Parliament passed the legislation by 348 votes to 274.​

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Opponents had hoped for last-minute amendments to be made to the legislation, but failed to garner enough votes. Julia Reda, a German MEP representing the Pirate Party who opposes the copyright directive, said it was a “dark day for internet freedom”. Margrethe Vestager, European Commissioner for Competition, said the result was “great news”.​

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At its core, the overarching Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market is an attempt by the European Union to rein in the power of big technology companies.​

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It puts copyright holders up against major technology firms and protesters who are concerned that the legislation will limit freedom of speech. The onus to stop copyrighted content from being uploaded to sites such as YouTube is a sharp departure from existing legislation governing how online platforms operate.​

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While ostensibly aimed at fixing copyright, many are worried that Article 13 will completely change how we share information online and make it much harder for small sites to compete with tech giants.​

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The US isn’t the only one trying to break the internet. What’s y’all thoughts on this. Admittedly I’m not super versed in this so maybe I’m just reading it wrong/misunderstanding the implications.

 

[Thebobo]

As with anything when Big -insert Tech, pharma, weed- gets big they write the rules. I don't know enough about this law to comment I just hate "big."

 

[Jaskalas]

This is quite literally the end of the internet (in Europe) as we know it.

It is now effectively illegal to quote the news in ANY capacity. And all websites are libel for their user's content / actions.

Google also had reason to oppose another contentious part of the new law: Article 11, which introduces so-called ancillary copyright across the EU. This essentially means press publishers will be able to demand licensing fees when services such as Google News reproduce snippets of text from their articles. ​

It's now a matter of technicality. Anyone can be pursued for quoting another. But they probably still have to act on it. The bigger issue is the need to preemptively filter out all quotes, all images, all content. To ensure only original content can be posted. The data processing required to achieve that filter is HUGE, costly, and it'd be a lot "better" for websites like Anandtech to shutdown their forums and simply use another platform. Where the copyright responsibility falls on Reddit, or someone else.

Further articles.

Proposed EU Copyright Law Could Cause Problems For Fan Content In Games

The measures required to moderate user-generated content would likely be extreme, requiring content-sniffing bots to flag potential breaches and moderators to determine the validity of content claims. Picture YouTube’s Content ID systems, except instead of looking for videos, they’re flagging Minecraft skins and Wikipedia articles. With moderation difficult and failure costly, game companies could take unprecedented measures to avoid being held liable for breaches. While this could include disabling user-generated content, it might also encourage licensing deals with rights holders such as Disney. ​

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Catastrophic Copyright Bill That Threatens the Internet

The biggest issue with this legislation has been Articles 11 and 13. These two provisions have come to be known as the “link tax” and “upload filter” requirements, respectively.​

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In brief, the link tax is intended to take power back from giant platforms like Google and Facebook by requiring them to pay news outlets for the privilege of linking or quoting articles. But critics say this will mostly harm smaller websites that can’t afford to pay the tax, and the tech giants will easily pay up or just decide not link to news.​

 

[Rifter]

They dont realize that all they are going to end up doing is making themselves isolated. Websites/companies are not going to just go ok yeah lets spend millions or even billions to meet these requirements to make no more money than we were before, hell they will likely make even less.

They are simply going to block the EU and there website/services will just no longer be accessible there.

 

[Fern]

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What’s y’all thoughts on this.

No more posting (cut-n-paste) content from UK websites here if it passses.

More work for Mods and exposure to liability for site owner.

Fern

 

[biostud]

Be very aware that lots have changed from the original proposal to the final legislation. So many will say it is the end of the internet based on the original proposal and have not read the final document. I'm member of a very liberal party in Denmark, which supports the new proposal, and while you have to form your own opinions, I trust their decision in this case.

 

[Exterous]

Be very aware that lots have changed from the original proposal to the final legislation. So many will say it is the end of the internet based on the original proposal and have not read the final document. I'm member of a very liberal party in Denmark, which supports the new proposal, and while you have to form your own opinions, I trust their decision in this case.

I've not seen very favorable reviews of the law so far, even from sites reporting on the revised version. Most continue to point out its flaws and the complications imposed by its vagaries

 

[cytg111]

Brexit going full retard in real time before our eyes .. and at the same time they hurl shit like this back at us.. Sometimes I think our politicians are brain dead.
Its. Brain. Dead. Fuck it, ill get back on my TOR 3.0 sketches. Information wants to be free. Natural law.

 

[JEDIYoda]

As with anything when Big -insert Tech, pharma, weed- gets big they write the rules. I don't know enough about this law to comment I just hate "big."

A lot of women love big!!

 

[Jaskalas]

Be very aware that lots have changed from the original proposal to the final legislation. So many will say it is the end of the internet based on the original proposal and have not read the final document. I'm member of a very liberal party in Denmark, which supports the new proposal, and while you have to form your own opinions, I trust their decision in this case.

I read that they might have carved out some small exception for GIFs and MEMEs.

If those were illegal, that does not bode well for the rest of modern day internet usage.

 

[whm1974]

I wonder just well the EU can actually enforce this? I'm thinking a high number of folks there will be looking for and use any legal loopholes they can exploit.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

No more posting (cut-n-paste) content from UK websites here if it passses.

More work for Mods and exposure to liability for site owner.

Fern

I don't see that happening unless the parent corporation requires it. I do not think that the legislators understand how big the bear is that they just threw a rock at as they themselves will be targets of countless people and this law/regulation challenged to death.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I wonder just well the EU can actually enforce this? I'm thinking a high number of folks there will be looking for and use any legal loopholes they can exploit.

Here they can't, however, corporations which do business here and abroad can be attacked. In the US the First should void any attacks on political speech applied by a foreign agent.

 

[Jaskalas]

I wonder just well the EU can actually enforce this? I'm thinking a high number of folks there will be looking for and use any legal loopholes they can exploit.

The website owners / hosts of user generated content are now lible for a much broader range of copyright violation.

You go after Google, Facebook, Twitter, and they'll either shutdown their services, greatly reduce their functionality, or pre-filter ALL content for you. You do not pursue the "high number of folks". You target the websites.

 

[whm1974]

The website owners / hosts of user generated content are now lible for a much broader range of copyright violation.

You go after Google, Facebook, Twitter, and they'll either shutdown their services, greatly reduce their functionality, or pre-filter ALL content for you. You do not pursue the "high number of folks". You target the websites.

I wonder if any companies doing business in the EU are seriously considering stopping doing any since it would very expensive to comply with this law?

 

[Jaskalas]

I wonder if any companies doing business in the EU are seriously considering stopping doing any since it would very expensive to comply with this law?

Less profit is better than none. Europe is still a valuable market. And the largest tech giants already have filters. They'll just need to greatly expand upon them. Not as difficult as originally designing and implementing them.

It's smaller companies that can no longer afford to fully comply.

 

[Jaskalas]

EFF: The European Copyright Directive
^ I think quoting from it would invoke the "link tax". Link previews are now copyright infringements.

 

[whm1974]

EFF: The European Copyright Directive
^ I think quoting from it would invoke the "link tax". Link previews are now copyright infringements.

I would think that nearly all Internet users do previews and reviews that this wouldn't be passed or even considered.

 

[Jaskalas]

Sir, please cease and desist. I did not grant you permission to quote my words OR link to my post. You are hereby in violation of the European Copyright Directive and Anandtech now owes someone a bajillion dollars.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Be very aware that lots have changed from the original proposal to the final legislation. So many will say it is the end of the internet based on the original proposal and have not read the final document. I'm member of a very liberal party in Denmark, which supports the new proposal, and while you have to form your own opinions, I trust their decision in this case.

Do you mind explaining why you feel this way?

I read this, and it doesn't sound very good at all. So any light you can shed on this to deter me from entering full on WTF mode would be great

EFF: The European Copyright Directive
^ I think quoting from it would invoke the "link tax". Link previews are now copyright infringements.

 

[biostud]

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/...approves-new-copyright-rules-for-the-internet

• Internet platforms are liable for content that users upload
• Some uploaded material, such as memes or GIFs, now specifically excluded from directive
• Hyperlinks to news articles, accompanied by “individual words or very short extracts”, can be shared freely
• Journalists must get a share of any copyright-related revenue obtained by their news publisher
• Start-up platforms subject to lighter obligations

 

[cytg111]

Why dont these fuckers lay out their own cables and leave my internet alone... fucking fuckers. They are basicly doing a hostile takeover of what is rightfully ours, not theirs, cause money...Same with NN... Screw these bastards with a vengance... Im going to dig up what companies lobbied this through and serve them up some "memes"... fucktards..

 

[ch33zw1z]

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/...approves-new-copyright-rules-for-the-internet

• Internet platforms are liable for content that users upload
• Some uploaded material, such as memes or GIFs, now specifically excluded from directive
• Hyperlinks to news articles, accompanied by “individual words or very short extracts”, can be shared freely
• Journalists must get a share of any copyright-related revenue obtained by their news publisher
• Start-up platforms subject to lighter obligations

Do you see any issue with countries applying the rules differently?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Why dont these fuckers lay out their own cables and leave my internet alone... fucking fuckers. They are basicly doing a hostile takeover of what is rightfully ours, not theirs, cause money...Same with NN... Screw these bastards with a vengance... Im going to dig up what companies lobbied this through and serve them up some "memes"... fucktards..

Because that's how F_________ds behave!!

 

[Exterous]

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/...approves-new-copyright-rules-for-the-internet

I have a inherent distrust of press releases released by the organization that passes the rules, particularly when they say things will be fine before the actual details have been enumerated by the various countries