The EPoX 4G4A+ seems very promising.

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mcveigh

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Originally posted by: fxsts
I have gotten 4G4AI (one with onboard LAN) and pretty happy with what I got.
from newegg?
I am aboput to get this one, have you OC'd it yet?
haow far did it go if so?

 

fxsts

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mcveigh,

Yes, I got it from Newegg. My 1.6a is not that good, and I use two sticks of Crucial PC2100 DDR. I could only run the combo stable on less than 145Mhz bus on P4B266-C. With 4G4AI, I have so far been able to run the combo on 150Mhz bus with 1:1 memory setting or 148Mhz with 4:5 setting (memory running at 185Mhz!!!, I guess). I have not been stressing the system much, but I have at least been able to complete 3dMark2001 a couple of times in a row using either of these settings.

I have had some funcky experience with the onboard LAN losing connection while surfing on the web after updating the BIOS to the latest. Since I set the BIOS to the setup default and re-adjusted, I have not experienced the problem.

If you have a good network card, you may just want to go with 4G4A from Mwave and save some money.


PS. I am more happy with anything else than finally being able to use the USB ports.



 

anazoal

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wizz0bang, I could not get the keyboard power on to work with a USB keyboard. I also had a hanging boot issue when rebooting the PC and using a USB kb (could be a problem with the kb, though I doubt it). Anyway, I went back to a PS/2 kb.
 

wizz0bang

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Darn... I _really_ like keyboard power on. I set the power on password to "on" I just walk up and type "on" and voila! I don't have to open the door to my aluminum 1040 case! May have to go back to my Ps/2 rig :(

P.S. I don't have any reboot issues and the USB KB works fine under XP... I just can't power on from it. Oh well...
 

hfrfc

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I don't think there is another revision than the 1.0 but the BR27 trick is real.

The guy tests a board without it and he has a lot of instability with memory (random crash, freeze...)
Then he emails epox europe about this issues and they give him a board with a resistance br27 on it and a better cooling solution on the chipset. I think it is already avaible in US since a long time ( Europe is always laaaaaaaaate :( )

I will ask him whats the revision of his board !

 

therecka

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Originally posted by: hfrfc
I don't think there is another revision than the 1.0 but the BR27 trick is real.

The guy tests a board without it and he has a lot of instability with memory (random crash, freeze...)
Then he emails epox europe about this issues and they give him a board with a resistance br27 on it and a better cooling solution on the chipset. I think it is already avaible in US since a long time ( Europe is always laaaaaaaaate :( )

I will ask him whats the revision of his board !


My board is revision 1.0 and i have the BR27 on it.
I live in Europe (Sweden)
 

therecka

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Originally posted by: hfrfc
when did u buy it ?
do u have any issues ?

I bought it 4 days ago, i haven´t used it yet. because i´m waiting on my new P4 2,26
I´m going to wait 16 days until the pricecut so i can buy it and a better memmory ( XtremeDDR PC3500 release: Sep.1 )
 

Antoneo

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Originally posted by: wizz0bang
Darn... I _really_ like keyboard power on. I set the power on password to "on" I just walk up and type "on" and voila! I don't have to open the door to my aluminum 1040 case! May have to go back to my Ps/2 rig :(

P.S. I don't have any reboot issues and the USB KB works fine under XP... I just can't power on from it. Oh well...
Did you get a USB to PS/2 converter? I bought an OEM version of the MS Natural Pro KB and it came with one...
 

therecka

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1, i wounder if somebody know if a PC3500 can
be used on the 4G4A+??

2, Can i use a PC3200 and overclock it?

i just got my board and i don´t know which memory to buy.
a PC3200 or a PC3500.

please help me
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: therecka
1, i wounder if somebody know if a PC3500 can
be used on the 4G4A+??

2, Can i use a PC3200 and overclock it?

i just got my board and i don´t know which memory to buy.
a PC3200 or a PC3500.

please help me

I have PC3200, Cosair XMS. Can't help ya with the 3500.
 

turtlepower

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i cant get the KBPO to work and i have a ps/2 kb :( am i missing something? i moved the jumper to the right spot and went to bios to make the password "on" but nothing happens :(

edit: doh! now the comp wont turn on
 

LennyZ

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i don't know about the new processors coming out but my 2.53ghz overclocks to 2.85ghz with this board!:)
 

Sukhoi

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Originally posted by: nic949
Will the Epox 4G4A+ support the new 2.6, 2.66 and 2.8 ghz processors when they come out on the 26th?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1029555513

It should if they're just a regular 133 MHz FSB P4 with no differences from the other B model P4s.
 

DubSlick

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Has anyone OC'ed while using the built in 845G graphics controller? I just purchased a 1.8A along with the 4g4a+ , and 3dMark2001 will hang at anything above 2.1GHz ( 118 FSB x 18). I know it's a video problem, because if I throw in my old ATI Rage Fury Pro, the tests will complete without problem. Are people out there running with a higher FSB using the built in video controller?

Another issue, I can only get the CPU up to 2.25 GHz (125 FSB x 18) stable with Prime95 using 1.6 Vcore ,locking AGP/PCI, setting memory 1:1, Enermax case with 300W Enermax PS (might be their cheapie model) and using retail HSF. Bumping up to 130 FSB and 1.725 Vcore starts to cause errors in Prime95. I didn't want to push the Vcore higher due to the overvolting reports. So my question is, did I get a bum processor? Is this a bad 4g4a? I'm really jealous of the folks here who can get up 160FSB using this same combo.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: DubSlick
Has anyone OC'ed while using the built in 845G graphics controller? I just purchased a 1.8A along with the 4g4a+ , and 3dMark2001 will hang at anything above 2.1GHz ( 118 FSB x 18). I know it's a video problem, because if I throw in my old ATI Rage Fury Pro, the tests will complete without problem. Are people out there running with a higher FSB using the built in video controller?

Another issue, I can only get the CPU up to 2.25 GHz (125 FSB x 18) stable with Prime95 using 1.6 Vcore ,locking AGP/PCI, setting memory 1:1, Enermax case with 300W Enermax PS (might be their cheapie model) and using retail HSF. Bumping up to 130 FSB and 1.725 Vcore starts to cause errors in Prime95. I didn't want to push the Vcore higher due to the overvolting reports. So my question is, did I get a bum processor? Is this a bad 4g4a? I'm really jealous of the folks here who can get up 160FSB using this same combo.

Heh, join the club. I can only go to 2.4 with my 1.8. I'm currently using the on board video, and boy do I miss my R8500.
 

terminalmind

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Originally posted by: DubSlick
Has anyone OC'ed while using the built in 845G graphics controller? I just purchased a 1.8A along with the 4g4a+ , and 3dMark2001 will hang at anything above 2.1GHz ( 118 FSB x 18). I know it's a video problem, because if I throw in my old ATI Rage Fury Pro, the tests will complete without problem. Are people out there running with a higher FSB using the built in video controller?


I am using the integrated graphics and I am running my 1.6A@2.56Ghz 160FSB using the 4:5 mem ratio, Vcore 1.60V, Vdimm at default. I have ran it as high as 166FSB but 3dmark2001 locks up during the Lobby demo. Hopefully I'll have better luck when I get a video card.

What is the pack date of your 1.8A? The newer ones tend to overclock better.
 

DubSlick

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Originally posted by: terminalmind
What is the pack date of your 1.8A? The newer ones tend to overclock better.

Off the top of my head 5/29/02, Costa Rica, SL63X (not the Q). I'm thinking about going to a computer show so that I can hand pick the pack date. Oh well. Thanks much.
 

turtlepower

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Okay here's how my setup is going:

Retail 1.6a with AS3
512 Corsair XMS PC2700 in DIMM slot 2
Gainward Geforce4 Ti4200 64mb
Enermax 430W PS
2 WD Special Edition HD's in Raid 0

My 4g4a+ is revision 1.0, bios is 4/24, i removed the CPU Select Jumper (JP1)
1.6a from Costa Rica... don't remember exact packdate but it was July 2002
currently FSB is stable at 146 (Prime95 ran for 8+ hours) at default voltage... i tried going up to 150 FSB, booted to windows and everything seemed normal but Prime95 threw an error after a couple minutes... testing 148 FSB right now, seems fine but its only been an hour

the FSB is the only settings i have changed in Frequency/Voltage Control section of the BIOS... Should I change Memory Frequency and AGP/PCI Clock? Also when and do I need to change AGP and VDIMM voltage? thanks
 

Mavrick007

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Originally posted by: turtlepower
Okay here's how my setup is going:

Retail 1.6a with AS3
512 Corsair XMS PC2700 in DIMM slot 2
Gainward Geforce4 Ti4200 64mb
Enermax 430W PS
2 WD Special Edition HD's in Raid 0

My 4g4a+ is revision 1.0, bios is 4/24, i removed the CPU Select Jumper (JP1)
1.6a from Costa Rica... don't remember exact packdate but it was July 2002
currently FSB is stable at 146 (Prime95 ran for 8+ hours) at default voltage... i tried going up to 150 FSB, booted to windows and everything seemed normal but Prime95 threw an error after a couple minutes... testing 148 FSB right now, seems fine but its only been an hour

the FSB is the only settings i have changed in Frequency/Voltage Control section of the BIOS... Should I change Memory Frequency and AGP/PCI Clock? Also when and do I need to change AGP and VDIMM voltage? thanks

If you are overclocking your memory(you can calculate what your memory is running at from the fsb and your memory setting), you might want to either get faster memory or bump the volts up a bit but not too much. If your video is overclocked and it's getting some tearing, I would drop it back a bit in the overclock and only change the voltage a bit if necessary, it might not make any difference to the overclock. I would say though that if you're trying to get a higher overclock from your 1.6a, then you should bump your voltage feeding the cpu up a bit first cause that is pretty decent what you're getting so far from stock at 148fsb.

Hehe Got to like those 50%+ overclocks :D
 

Johnnychangs

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There's a new bios out for the 4G4A+

Look on http://www.aoaforums.com and search for 4G4A

I uploaded a new bios there, but they haven't processed it. I've been using it for a few weeks now and haven't run into any problems.

With any bios I haven't been able to get my system over 150FSB. I think its the limit of my 1.6a. It runs stable as hell though, its been on 24x7 since I set it up...of course I rebooted a few times for software installs.

Doh, I misspelled Epox on their site...woops.
 

Johnnychangs

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Many who have written in this post have said that the first original Bios which is dated back in April or something is the best. I've used it, and have had the same luck overclocking with almost every Bios.

I'm using this latest one since I was told from Epox it includes a newer Highpoint RAID Bios and newer Intel registers or something.

I run my P4 1.6a at 2320Mhz, and its up 24x7 at very low temps and extremely stable.

Good luck
 

turtlepower

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just curious but when you boot up your computer, is anyone else's text for the Power Fan RPM and Chassis Fan RPM in red? mine is and everything else is white text... stands out like a sore thumb