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The EPoX 4G4A+ seems very promising.

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Crap.....i forgot to Apply AS3 on NB when i was doing final settings in my case....grrrr

will do it next time when i get a chipset fan for the NB now.......
 
I just dismantled my Asus P4S533 motherboard with SIS645DX yesterday after I picked up my EPOX 4G4A motherboard because I could not get it to work with my Geforce4 TI4600. I installed it and tried to run the memory in TURBO mode, but when WinXP Pro came up, I was getting a lot of crashes. My memory is a PC3200 Corsair Micro 512MB. I had to set it back to "BY SPD", which put it back to CAS2. But, the system is very stable and the it work great with my TI4600. I am going to keep this motherboard in my system until the Dual channel DDR mobos come out. This is a great board. By the way does anyone have any ideas how much the VDIMM setting needs to be increased for the TURBO mode to work on this mobo?
 
ok......heres another update on the board:

FSB: 163 Mhz
CPU: 1.6a @ 2600 Mhz
CPU VCore: 1.750
Memory: DDR 435 (using 3:4 memory ratio)
DRam Voltage: 2.800v
Stability: 100% stable

My Cpu can go upto 165 Mhz but my Samsung DDR wont go any higher......i dont want to give it any extra voltage......i am happy now....1 Ghz overclock with DDR 102 overclock......what can i ask more now ?
 
gsethi, thank you for your effort in reviewing several new motherboards!!!

I'm building a new system, and am thinking of using the EPoX 4G4A+. Can I use a new P4 power supply (I already have a P4 PSU) or do I have to use an older ATX PSU?

Those who have had success with this board, what is the rating on your PSU's?

Thanks!
 
You can use your current P4 power supply. You just want have to worry about connecting the 4 pin 12volt connector. My PSU rating is 530 watts(Enermax power supply). Can't go wrong with this power supply. You probably can get by with a 350 watt or 400 watt Power supply.
 
Thanks VSEKH. After following all the new MB threads for a while, I think the 4G4A+ seems to be the best for the money (the ASUS P4B533-V does not justify the extra $50 -- it would be diiferent if it packed RAID & firewire).
 
Originally posted by: anazoal
Thanks VSEKH. After following all the new MB threads for a while, I think the 4G4A+ seems to be the best for the money (the ASUS P4B533-V does not justify the extra $50 -- it would be diiferent if it packed RAID & firewire).

thats why i also went with this board and glad that i made a good decision. This board even comes with RAID, so thats a bonus. I was stuck to decide between Abit BG7 and Epox 4G4A+ and the sales person was forcing me to get the Abit board but i decided to get Epox and i am glad that i got this board.

regarding the Power Supply, i am using an Antec 400w power supply and am overclocked to 160 FSB (lowered back down to 160 from 163 just to be little more safe) and all my voltages are good. Infact, they are all overvolting. So you should be good enough with a 400w PSU, well, if you can afford go with higher (the more, the merrier 😉 ) but 400w is sufficient.

now, i might give a review on the GA-8IGXP when it comes out, still waiting for that board.
 
Originally posted by: VSEKH
You can use your current P4 power supply. You just want have to worry about connecting the 4 pin 12volt connector. My PSU rating is 530 watts(Enermax power supply). Can't go wrong with this power supply. You probably can get by with a 350 watt or 400 watt Power supply.

Actually, you can get by with a decent 300w ATX power stupply; as that is what I'm running my 4G4A+ board with DDR333 & a P4-1.6a at 2.2ghz. This board really saved on my upgrading costs, and it has more features than other 845g boards! But yeah, you can get by with a 300w old-style ATX supply, at a minimum. Actually the booklet requires a 250w supply, as it says.



 
gsethi,

Great work that you've been doing. Just one thing if i could ask you.... could you please give us some of your Sandra memory scores for your machine over 150 fsb? i am really interested in seeing what it will get.

i am thinking of getting both a Asus P4S533 and this Epox board just to test out my p4-1.6 chip and compare the two.

thanks again.....
 
currently, i am running at 160 FSB with 3:4 memory ratio (DDR 426) and my Sandra memory scores are in mid 3200s (i will let you know the exact numbers in the evening)
 
Can someone with this board verify whether you can change the MAC address of the realtek network card. It should be an option on the network card properties called network address, or locally administered address, or something of the sort.

EDIT: By network card I mean onboard LAN
 
OK, I'm hooked: I have a 4G4A+ on its way from MWave, a 1.6A from NewEgg, and 333 DDR Samsung Ram from Essential (I read Hotdeals too 😉 ).
 
so whats the latest and greatest happening with all or your setups? i think im going to purchase this board, with a 1.6 or a 1.8, anyone with an opinion of which i should get? I think that if i get the 1.8, so i would be assured more speed. But i would like to hear how all of your systems are doing
 
You have no idea if a 1.6A or 1.8A will OC to higher speeds. I would just get the 1.6A since it's cheaper and will probably overclock to a higher FSB than the 1.8A.
 
Just ordered the board myself. I'll see how it will stack up against my 4BDA2+. 🙂 $119 @ Mwave was too good to resist!
 
I'm interested to see this one myself. The 4BDA2+ is the best 845D board out there IMHO. I'm interested to see how the 4G4A+ stacks up. I would like to see how the 4BEA does as well.
 
ok, i just got my Epox 4G4A+ earlier today from newegg, and have hooked it up using a P4-1600a.

boy this mobo is SWEET! it posts @ 2560 (160 fsb), and i have run my Samsung PC2700 ram as high as 390 ddr (though not stable).

right now, i have it set at 154 fsb for a speed of 2464 MHz, with my ram running at cas 2-2-2-5. all of this is with default voltages for both the cpu and the ram.

will report back to see how others things of it are going....
 
My board should get here Friday 🙂

With the World Cup, and a new mobo, I'm not ging to get much sleep this weekend...
 
I have a newbie question regarding the Epox 4G4A+. I was thinking of getting a P4 2.26B (533FSB) processor and the 4G4A+ in hopes of overclocking the 2.26B up to something closer to 3.0. I would like to continue using Win98SE. I wouldn't try to push the processor a lot because I'm not an extreme overclocker (I'm currently using a ASUS P3V4X running a 600E at 800), but I'd be happy if I got up to about 2.7Ghz or better. My questions are:

Do you think I could do this using the retail fan on the 2.26B? Or to get the best results (maybe a better overclock) do you recommend I get an OEM processor and use an air cooler? Such as the AVC Sunflower cooler or something on that order?

I was concerned about not having ATA133 available on the 4G4A+, although I don't see folks concerned about it in this 4G4A+ thread. Could I use a single ATA133 hard drive on this board somehow, perhaps using some piece of the onboard RAID setup and get the benefit of an ATA133 drive? How would that work setup-wise with my 2 year old CD-ROM and fairly new CDRW?

Thanks in advance for any advice. I appreciate the help.

Randy
 
You will notice no difference between an ATA100 and ATA133 drive.

On my 8IEXP I can use the RAID controller as two additional ATA channels. I have no idea if the 4G4A+ does that.
 
I would say the ATA100 controller will be faster than the ATA133 controller. You can use Intel Application Accelerator IDE drivers with the onboard controller, but not the RAID controller. I run the fastest IDE drive available, the WD 1200JB on the ATA100 controller. It doesn't slow it down a bit.
 
What HSF are you guys using?? The stock one or an upgraded one? I have a Swiftech MCX 462 with the 478 brackets that I could use. Has anyone used this combination or would anybody use this combination?
 
Thanks Sukhoi and oldfart for the answers to my ATA133 question. This is from the Epox 4G4A+ site:

4G4A+ UltraDMA EIDE Controllers.
PCI Bus IDE Port/UDMA100 x 2 (Up to 4 Devices)
Extra IDE Port by HPT372 with Ultra DMA-133 & IDE RAID x 2 (Up to 4 Devices)

Do you think that means the RAID controller on the 4G4A+ can be used as two additional channels? Also, the 4G4A+ supports USB 2.0. Will my devices that I currently use on the old USB connectors on my 2 year old motherboard work okay plugged into the 2.0 ports (i.e., is USB 2.0 backwards compatable)?

Thanks for your help.

Randy
 
ok guys, here's an update to how my rig here is going:

I have gotten my system stable at 2640 MHz, by using a 165 fsb, with memory settings at 2.5,2,3,5 for 440 DDR 🙂

linked below are my wcpuid and sandra screenshots:

WCPUID - 2640 MHz

Sandra Memory - 3405/3404


Now, this is all great, except for one thing which is not letting me finalize this system. I have a Geforce3 Ti200 video card installed in the system, and before I install the Detonator drivers for it, the machine works great, except given for the fact that I am running 800x600 in 16 colors. When I proceed to install the nvidia drivers and then reboot, I cannot get past the Windows 2000 splash screen. The machine will just hang right there. At best, I can get into the desktop, and two seconds later, the screen will freeze with slight image corruption. When the system is set to 100 fsb, for a 1600 MHz stock speed, the Geforce3 works fine.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing this? Is it the nvidia drivers or the Window 2000 drivers? Maye an IRQ problem? I tried changing some, but it hasnt worked for me yet.

I would appreciate any other tips and ideas.... thanks!

-David
 
Yes rrk8, with the HPT372 controller you can use UIDE1&2 to connect additional hard drives, but no ATAPI devices like CD drives. You'll need to enable the controller in BIOS, set your boot drive in the RAID controller setup (ctrl-h), and load the appropriate RAID drivers for your OS; it's not necessary to create an array. And, you'll want to do a reinstall of your OS and load the drivers up front, or load the drivers before you move your drives from the IDE to the UIDE; either/or. Piece of cake.

On the 4G4A front, I finally got mine working properly by removing the FSB jumper for 133FSB and moved my Corsair to dimm2 instead of dimm1. Running like a champ at 160FSB and DDR400. I'm beginning to believe that the problems that people were having at first, myself included, was that we just didn't know how to work the mobo since it was so new. I know I was one of those who initially blamed the tool instead of the person using it...


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