The End.

[Analog]

🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁

While driving home yesterday from a little league game, I was accelerating normally from a stop. While the vehicle was shifting from 1st to 2nd, it seemed to go 1st to nothing (revved up). Then as I let off the gas, I heard what sounded like a bucket of bolts rolling around. I pulled into the nearby grocery store parking lot to examine things. The engine ran a bit rough in park, but smoothed out when I put it in gear with the brake on. I could accelerate, but again, no 2nd gear, just the bucket of bolts sound. No reverse either. I was 3 miles from home, drove it home in 1st gear, topped at 30mph.

With 194,000 miles, I call it quits. Not interested in a tranny rebuild at this point. We did that with my wife's '95 TS when it had 100K (still running great at 170K). I am planning to turn this car in with the upcoming government program. If the law passes as it looks now, I'll get $4500 toward a new Honda Fit, which is like a mini-minivan. The program's interesting, as all vehicles need a max of 18MPG, at least 10 years old. The running condition is not specified, but it is irellevant, as long as I can drive it there. All cars turned in cannot be resold or used for parts - their engines and transmissions must be destroyed, so the dealer's don't stand anything to gain.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Analog
If the law passes as it looks now, I'll get $4500 toward a new Honda Fit, which is like a mini-minivan. The program's interesting, as all vehicles need a max of 18MPG, at least 10 years old. The running condition is not specified, but it is irrelevant, as long as I can drive it there. All cars turned in cannot be resold or used for parts - their engines and transmissions must be destroyed, so the dealer's don't stand anything to gain.

The hell? The government should re-sell those cars for parts and gain some of that tax money back. Gotta love how the government is intentionally throwing huge amounts of money away.

ZV

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Analog
If the law passes as it looks now, I'll get $4500 toward a new Honda Fit, which is like a mini-minivan. The program's interesting, as all vehicles need a max of 18MPG, at least 10 years old. The running condition is not specified, but it is irrelevant, as long as I can drive it there. All cars turned in cannot be resold or used for parts - their engines and transmissions must be destroyed, so the dealer's don't stand anything to gain.

The hell? The government should re-sell those cars for parts and gain some of that tax money back. Gotta love how the government is intentionally throwing huge amounts of money away.

ZV

It defeats their purposes. They're trying to get gas guzzlers off the road. If they're selling the parts for the cars they're helping other people keep older inefficient vehicles on the road. I don't agree with the program because people are going to abuse it like crazy.

 

[boomhower]

Yep, they sure will. It's a bad idea for that reason alone, its obvious the govt is not capable of properly regulating any stimulus plan.

 

[vi edit]

Skip the Fit and look at a Mazda5. A true "mini" minivan.

My Dad owns a Fit and I own a Mazda 5. For the money they charge for a fit(with as close as possible options), you are about a $1000 shy of a Mazda5.

The 5 is an imensely more roomy, comfortable, and refined vehicle. It just gives up milage to the Honda egg-mobile.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: vi edit
Skip the Fit and look at a Mazda5. A true "mini" minivan.

My Dad owns a Fit and I own a Mazda 5. For the money they charge for a fit(with as close as possible options), you are about a $1000 shy of a Mazda5.

The 5 is an imensely more roomy, comfortable, and refined vehicle. It just gives up milage to the Honda egg-mobile.

I'll check it out.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Analog
If the law passes as it looks now, I'll get $4500 toward a new Honda Fit, which is like a mini-minivan. The program's interesting, as all vehicles need a max of 18MPG, at least 10 years old. The running condition is not specified, but it is irrelevant, as long as I can drive it there. All cars turned in cannot be resold or used for parts - their engines and transmissions must be destroyed, so the dealer's don't stand anything to gain.

The hell? The government should re-sell those cars for parts and gain some of that tax money back. Gotta love how the government is intentionally throwing huge amounts of money away.

ZV

It defeats their purposes. They're trying to get gas guzzlers off the road. If they're selling the parts for the cars they're helping other people keep older inefficient vehicles on the road. I don't agree with the program because people are going to abuse it like crazy.

Engines get used in many different types of cars. The same parts that go on a lower-mpg minivan with the 3800 V6 may very well fit a family sedan with the same 3800 V6 that will get 28+ on the freeway. It's absolutely ridiculous that the government is handing out that much money and not making an effort to recover the cost.

ZV

 

[RU482]

We had a 93 Olds Van with the 3800. It would regularly get 28MPG on the highway. We replaced it with an 03 Pontiac Montana w/ 3400 that regularly gets 23MPG on the highway.

progress!!

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Analog
If the law passes as it looks now, I'll get $4500 toward a new Honda Fit, which is like a mini-minivan. The program's interesting, as all vehicles need a max of 18MPG, at least 10 years old. The running condition is not specified, but it is irrelevant, as long as I can drive it there. All cars turned in cannot be resold or used for parts - their engines and transmissions must be destroyed, so the dealer's don't stand anything to gain.

The hell? The government should re-sell those cars for parts and gain some of that tax money back. Gotta love how the government is intentionally throwing huge amounts of money away.

ZV

It defeats their purposes. They're trying to get gas guzzlers off the road. If they're selling the parts for the cars they're helping other people keep older inefficient vehicles on the road. I don't agree with the program because people are going to abuse it like crazy.

Engines get used in many different types of cars. The same parts that go on a lower-mpg minivan with the 3800 V6 may very well fit a family sedan with the same 3800 V6 that will get 28+ on the freeway. It's absolutely ridiculous that the government is handing out that much money and not making an effort to recover the cost.

ZV

the whole point is to drive new car sales, not a federal flea market.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
the whole point is to drive new car sales, not a federal flea market.

This is waste, pure and simple. The government is spending a bunch of money and ignoring an obvious and effective means of offsetting a portion of that cost. If it's to drive people to more fuel efficient vehicles, it's still possible to sell off the parts that are compatible with vehicles that are fuel efficient.

That would still move people to more efficient cars, but it would at least recoup some of the substantial cost. It's absolutely ridiculous that the government is ignoring a means of saving money.

ZV

 

[thedarkwolf]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
the whole point is to drive new car sales, not a federal flea market.

This is waste, pure and simple. The government is spending a bunch of money and ignoring an obvious and effective means of offsetting a portion of that cost. If it's to drive people to more fuel efficient vehicles, it's still possible to sell off the parts that are compatible with vehicles that are fuel efficient.

That would still move people to more efficient cars, but it would at least recoup some of the substantial cost. It's absolutely ridiculous that the government is ignoring a means of saving money.

ZV

uh its the government

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
the whole point is to drive new car sales, not a federal flea market.

This is waste, pure and simple. The government is spending a bunch of money and ignoring an obvious and effective means of offsetting a portion of that cost. If it's to drive people to more fuel efficient vehicles, it's still possible to sell off the parts that are compatible with vehicles that are fuel efficient.

That would still move people to more efficient cars, but it would at least recoup some of the substantial cost. It's absolutely ridiculous that the government is ignoring a means of saving money.

ZV

Thought you knew by now that government and the term "saving money" don't go together. Especially with this administration, makes Bush's spending look like pocket change :disgust:

 

[LTC8K6]

It's far from clear that the OP's vehicle would qualify at all, let alone for the max voucher.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

The scrap metal gets recycled into something else, so don't worry about it.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Analog
If the law passes as it looks now, I'll get $4500 toward a new Honda Fit, which is like a mini-minivan. The program's interesting, as all vehicles need a max of 18MPG, at least 10 years old. The running condition is not specified, but it is irrelevant, as long as I can drive it there. All cars turned in cannot be resold or used for parts - their engines and transmissions must be destroyed, so the dealer's don't stand anything to gain.

The hell? The government should re-sell those cars for parts and gain some of that tax money back. Gotta love how the government is intentionally throwing huge amounts of money away.

ZV

It defeats their purposes. They're trying to get gas guzzlers off the road. If they're selling the parts for the cars they're helping other people keep older inefficient vehicles on the road. I don't agree with the program because people are going to abuse it like crazy.

Engines get used in many different types of cars. The same parts that go on a lower-mpg minivan with the 3800 V6 may very well fit a family sedan with the same 3800 V6 that will get 28+ on the freeway. It's absolutely ridiculous that the government is handing out that much money and not making an effort to recover the cost.

ZV

the whole point is to drive new car sales, not a federal flea market.

The whole point is a bunch of enviroliberals in positions of government out to destroy anything that isn't a Prius engine, while simultaneously pushing for new laws that would prohibit future production of the former, thus eliminating them completely.

 

[StageLeft]

Yeah it's dead. I can't believe you could get $4500 for that POS, what a retarded law. Like you, I'd take advantage of it if that does become the case.

Anyway, buy the fit or the mazda 5. Then with the money you made on this plan, buy a V8 muscle car and send in the pics to the gov along with some lols.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yeah it's dead. I can't believe you could get $4500 for that POS, what a retarded law. Like you, I'd take advantage of it if that does become the case.

Anyway, buy the fit or the mazda 5. Then with the money you made on this plan, buy a V8 muscle car and send in the pics to the gov along with some lols.

New Camaro?