The End of the Private Sector

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: KGBMAN

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: cubby1223
This country was founded on the principles that other people are free to have differing opinions than you.

Seriously, what turned you into this bitter old grouch?

Having his ass handed to him by the state of Georgia.

Dave is like a two year old who can't cope with knowing that everyone else doesn't share his worldview.

Based on what I remember what the state of GA did to Dave was absolute bullshit and had nothing to do with his political or world views.

You are absolutely correct.

I think that was the incident that sent Dave out of orbit.

 

[KGB]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: KGBMAN

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: cubby1223
This country was founded on the principles that other people are free to have differing opinions than you.

Seriously, what turned you into this bitter old grouch?

Having his ass handed to him by the state of Georgia.

Dave is like a two year old who can't cope with knowing that everyone else doesn't share his worldview.

Based on what I remember what the state of GA did to Dave was absolute bullshit and had nothing to do with his political or world views.

You are absolutely correct.

I think that was the incident that sent Dave out of orbit.

RD, you may be correct but does that discussion belong HERE?

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: retrospooty
Do you have ANY purpose here other than to just blindly bash the left and build up the right? Are you even capable of free thinking? Because it seems you just follow right wing talking points. Anyhow, what I like about Obama in this, is that he is taking ownership of the economy - rather than putzing around with it like Bush does. He is taking steps, while Bush twiddles his thumbs.

I mean this guy... http://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/Ac...nts/eightyears-03.html he has a lot of higher praise from people a BIT more educated on economics than the right wing bloggers you get your news from.

Clinton-Gore Economic Policy Has Dramatically Improved the Economy

"My colleagues and I have been very appreciative of your [President Clinton?s] support of the Fed over the years, and your commitment to fiscal discipline has been instrumental in achieving what in a few weeks will be the longest economic expansion in the nation?s history."
? Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve Board Chairman, January 4, 2000, with President Clinton at Chairman Greenspan?s re-nomination announcement

"The deficit has come down, and I give the Clinton Administration and President Clinton himself a lot of credit for that. [He] did something about it, fast. And I think we are seeing some benefits."
? Paul Volcker, Federal Reserve Board Chairman (1979-1987), in Audacity, Fall 1994

One of the reasons Goldman Sachs cites for the "best economy ever" is that "on the policy side, trade, fiscal, and monetary policies have been excellent, working in ways that have facilitated growth without inflation. The Clinton Administration has worked to liberalize trade and has used any revenue windfalls to reduce the federal budget deficit."
? Goldman Sachs, March 1998

"Clinton?s 1993 budget cuts, which reduced projected red ink by more than $400 billion over five years, sparked a major drop in interest rates that helped boost investment in all the equipment and systems that brought forth the New Age economy of technological innovation and rising productivity."
? Business Week, May 19, 1997

Are you quoting the now discredited Alan Greenspan to try and say we were not in a recession in November 2000?

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Praxis1452

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: winnar111
http://weeklystandard.com/Util...cle=15846&R=13CE22CB58

20 years from now, people will fondly remember these last 25 years when their labor and efforts were actually rewarded. Hopefully we can see this age again someday.

The Weekly Standard is *crap*. It's a contra-indicator of reasonable opinion.

The last 25 years have been a *disaster* for the nation.

1. The unprecedented run-up in peacetime debt has provided some illusion to hide its huge damage, but huge damage it is, with effects to come for decades to come.

2. The concentration of wealth has skyrocketed, to levels not seen since just before the great depression. That's a terrible thing, despite childish right-wing views to the contrary.

The only thing that's made it feel tolerable is the advance of technology making many things cheaper, and the availability of cheap items from oversease on borrowed money.

The liberals build the middle class out of the poor working masses, and the Republicans have gone a long way to undo the middle classes' gains.

If you tax people enough they will move. Taxing the upper class out of existence is a solid way to put more of the burden on the classes that can't afford it.

bs

Lets assume the upper class DOES start an exodus faster than it is. Who will make up the rest of the shortage of income? The rest of the rich? So keep burdening the rich with more and more and they leave faster and faster...then what happens? Thats right. The tax burden shifts downward. Get a clue man.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: retrospooty
Do you have ANY purpose here other than to just blindly bash the left and build up the right? Are you even capable of free thinking? Because it seems you just follow right wing talking points. Anyhow, what I like about Obama in this, is that he is taking ownership of the economy - rather than putzing around with it like Bush does. He is taking steps, while Bush twiddles his thumbs.

I mean this guy... http://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/Ac...nts/eightyears-03.html he has a lot of higher praise from people a BIT more educated on economics than the right wing bloggers you get your news from.

Clinton-Gore Economic Policy Has Dramatically Improved the Economy

"My colleagues and I have been very appreciative of your [President Clinton?s] support of the Fed over the years, and your commitment to fiscal discipline has been instrumental in achieving what in a few weeks will be the longest economic expansion in the nation?s history."
? Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve Board Chairman, January 4, 2000, with President Clinton at Chairman Greenspan?s re-nomination announcement

"The deficit has come down, and I give the Clinton Administration and President Clinton himself a lot of credit for that. [He] did something about it, fast. And I think we are seeing some benefits."
? Paul Volcker, Federal Reserve Board Chairman (1979-1987), in Audacity, Fall 1994

One of the reasons Goldman Sachs cites for the "best economy ever" is that "on the policy side, trade, fiscal, and monetary policies have been excellent, working in ways that have facilitated growth without inflation. The Clinton Administration has worked to liberalize trade and has used any revenue windfalls to reduce the federal budget deficit."
? Goldman Sachs, March 1998

"Clinton?s 1993 budget cuts, which reduced projected red ink by more than $400 billion over five years, sparked a major drop in interest rates that helped boost investment in all the equipment and systems that brought forth the New Age economy of technological innovation and rising productivity."
? Business Week, May 19, 1997

Are you quoting the now discredited Alan Greenspan to try and say we were not in a recession in November 2000?

I am quoting 4 separate highly informed economic sources. One of them is Greenspan, (appointed by Reagen in the late 80's.) I could find you plenty more if need be - of course it wont matter to you, because people that have spent 4-8 years in college, and then their entire lives in the world of economics aren't as informed as your right wing bloggers are they? NOPE, its all Clintons fault... Except for the part that is Obama's fault, right? It wasnt Bush and the republican controlled congress at all was it? No, it couldnt be, because that would mean that the reps are accountable for this mess, and we cant have that! Good luck in the next several elections my friend =)

Are you going to answer the question ? "Do you have ANY purpose here other than to just blindly bash the left and build up the right? Are you even capable of free thinking? Because it seems you just follow right wing talking points."

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: cubby1223
This country was founded on the principles that other people are free to have differing opinions than you.

Seriously, what turned you into this bitter old grouch?

Having his ass handed to him by the state of Georgia.

Dave is like a two year old who can't cope with knowing that everyone else doesn't share his worldview.

Based on what I remember what the state of GA did to Dave was absolute bullshit and had nothing to do with his political or world views.

... and?

Someone asked why he was so bitter. I explained why.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: cubby1223
This country was founded on the principles that other people are free to have differing opinions than you.

Seriously, what turned you into this bitter old grouch?

Having his ass handed to him by the state of Georgia.

Dave is like a two year old who can't cope with knowing that everyone else doesn't share his worldview.

Based on what I remember what the state of GA did to Dave was absolute bullshit and had nothing to do with his political or world views.

... and?

Someone asked why he was so bitter. I explained why.

If somebody sets up a Paypal for PTSD counseling, I'll give a few bucks.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: cubby1223
This country was founded on the principles that other people are free to have differing opinions than you.

Seriously, what turned you into this bitter old grouch?

Having his ass handed to him by the state of Georgia.

Dave is like a two year old who can't cope with knowing that everyone else doesn't share his worldview.

Based on what I remember what the state of GA did to Dave was absolute bullshit and had nothing to do with his political or world views.

That would be correct.

I could not give a rats ass about politics or "world views" until I had a bunch of jack boot political thugs personally attack me. I don't think there is one person on here that could say they had the the lies that were said about me by a Governor of a state, a Senator (Max Cleland), Attorney General, among others.

Edit: I added the freemcowen link to my sig for those that were not around then.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Lets assume the upper class DOES start an exodus faster than it is.

Who will make up the rest of the shortage of income? The rest of the rich?

So keep burdening the rich with more and more and they leave faster and faster...then what happens? Thats right. The tax burden shifts downward. Get a clue man.

I disagree.

The country did just fine without the rich for a long time and sure does not need them now especially since as far as real Americans are concerned they are traitors.

Totally selling out the country for profit.