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The end maybe near. 40,000 hours

tweakboy

tweakboy

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So I remember we had a laugh about this thread I made about how two of my drives are losing their life. I can remember from the 90's even it always said hard drives have 40,000 hours of life span. It still says that and is it a rule or can I break the rule. I saw one guy @ 49,000 but he posted his hd tune and it wasnt lookin that good.

the 120gb is literally like maybe 2 weeks away of reaching 40,000 right now its at 39.7k hours. Im definitely going to post a screenshot if it goes past 40,000 and keeps on ticken.

Thanks
 
That's about 4.56 years of continuous duty without a break. I've never kept any HDD that long. 🙂
 
Doesn't mean they will fail at exactly 40,000. Keep em ticking see how long they will last.

I wouldn't keep important data on then though 😛
 
Thanks all for great responses. Ya plus I forgot to note that these drives are kept at temp 24c to 30c ,, thanks to iCage.

Soo that may play a role in why they lastest all the way to their near death. The original seagate 80gb has 5k hours more to reach but soon I will post a hd tune of the 120gb if it still ticks after that hehe. Cant wait, this is fun lol,
 
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corkyg said:
That's about 4.56 years of continuous duty without a break. I've never kept any HDD that long. 🙂
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Agreed. Back when 40, 60, 80, and 100-160GB drives were the common capacities, it didn't seem like a big deal to hold on to an 80GB drive for many years. After all, it took quite a while before we saw 200GB drives hit the market, and then another while before 250 and 320GB drives.

In the past few years, however, we've seen an explosion of hard drive capacities. It seemed like shortly after the 640GB drives were king, 750 and 1TB drives were starting to show up. Then it wasn't long after that we started seeing 1.5 and 2TB drives.

Aside from my dedicated storage drives, I usually keep a hard drive for 2-3 years, then securely erase it and pass it along to someone else. SSDs may change that, but that'll be another story.
 
Considering that, for about $65, you can buy a new 1Tb drive that will run circles around your .12Tb drive without breaking a sweat, your drive is worth less than one warm beer. You probably could suck another 40,000 hours out of it if you wanted to, but in the end, it's just taking up room in your case. Saving the power it consumes over the next 40,000 hours would probably buy a kegger.

And yes, I prefer warm dark beer.
 
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The 40,000 hours is MTBF (mean time between failures). It means that ON AVERAGE they will fail at 40,000 hours, but half of them will take longer and half of them will take less time to fail. Yours could last 80,000 or even more (since that's just standardized testing).

If it's starting to become unreliable or you've got mission critical data on it (which should be backed up), worry about it. If not, forget about how long it's been running and replace it when it starts to die.

Or just buy a new friggin' drive that is probably a good 80% faster for like $80 and has 8-10x the capacity.
 
People on Anandtech still have 120gig drives that are 5 years old lying around? 🙂
 
I think I still have some IDE drives under 1GB in the garage... maybe. I know for sure I've got some in the single digit GB range. Likely some of them still work, but they're just collecting dust right now.

For SATA drives, I've got them starting at 40GB and up, collecting dust. I don't think I have any HDD under 300GB in actual service, and those are VelociRaptors.

If you guys want to find drives with some actual serious power-on hours on them, look for computers at businesses. Lots of businesses will keep computers for many years, and some are never shut off.
 
Thanks all for the responses. thx evilspoons.

Well theres nothing on these drives I need, Im just gonna let her run until she dies which will open up a slot in the iCage. Then Ill buy 1TB 64MB cache 130 dollars is right uh fellas ?
 
lsv said:
People on Anandtech still have 120gig drives that are 5 years old lying around? 🙂
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Are you kidding me? My P4 system must be heading seven years
old & was built using a set of 120 WDs. Only lost one drive in all this time (and have two back ups on standby). I use that system almost every day & have a lot of hours on it movie watching.
 
Drive is 2003 .soo 7 years.... Not on 24 hours all the time,,,,,,,sometimes I gave it a rest,,
 
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Younglings ...
Here is one of the old fame:
Code: 
smartctl version 5.38 [i386-redhat-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     IBM Deskstar 60GXP series
Device Model:     IC35L020AVER07-0
Serial Number:    SVPTVF16145
Firmware Version: ER2OA44A
User Capacity:    20,576,747,520 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   5
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-5 T13 1321D revision 1
Local Time is:    Sun Sep 19 20:10:42 2010 EEST

==> WARNING: IBM Deskstar 60GXP drives may need upgraded SMART firmware.
Please see http://www.geocities.com/dtla_update/index.html#rel and
http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-42215 or
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=psg1MIGR-42215

SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   117   117   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       136 (Average 120)
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       345
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       41
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   020    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   092   092   000    Old_age   Always       -       61145
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       342
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   050    Old_age   Always       -       345
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   100   100   050    Old_age   Always       -       345
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   171   171   000    Old_age   Always       -       32 (Lifetime Min/Max 1/42)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       41
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       6
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
Not peachy, but not dead either.
 
Oh boy IBM is the worst thats why they went out of hard drive business. I can't believe yours is still ticken.

Also I cant get a 1TB for 70 even or 80 Why,, cuz I want 64MB cache,, soo I can settle for a 1TB 64MB WDC Black ,,,

My primary hd is fine,, 15k barely any milage,, 320GB for me is enough, but might as well get 500GB since the external LaCie is 500GB for the ms system image I create... One of W7 best features.... anyhow Ill be posting pics soon.... stay tuned, am I the rule, or am I just breaking the rule going above 40k LOL
 
mv2devnull said:
Younglings ...
Here is one of the old fame:
Code: 
----snip----

==> WARNING: IBM Deskstar 60GXP drives may need upgraded SMART firmware.
Please see http://www.geocities.com/dtla_update/index.html#rel and
http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-42215 or
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=psg1MIGR-42215

----snip----
Not peachy, but not dead either.
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LOL @ Geocities link. D'oh. And the second IBM link redirects to Lenovo even though Hitachi took over IBM's hard drive business? We've got ourselves a hat trick of bad link tricks here.

I'm aware the people who added that message into the program probably don't give a rat's ass about 60 GB IBM hard drives, but I still find it amusing.
 
lsv said:
People on Anandtech still have 120gig drives that are 5 years old lying around? 🙂
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I'm running several IDE disks with capacities in the 80 GB to 250 GB realm. The oldest disk I'm currently using is a Western Digital 13.6 GB disk from 1997.

The oldest disk I still have around (not using it) is a Connor 200 MEGAByte IDE disk from 1989. That disk cost $1000 when new.
 
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evilspoons said:
I'm aware the people who added that message into the program probably don't give a rat's ass about 60 GB IBM hard drives, but I still find it amusing.
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Version of the program seems to be 5.38 and google dates that to May 2008, although it might have been built for Fedora 10 (which is now about as obsolete as that drive) somewhat later. Anyway, my bet is that the comment has been added into the drive database several versions earlier, when it was "news", and nobody remedies the entries that have been shown to be "correct".

On text console (where I tend to run 'smartctl') there is no "click a link" feature. As you say: "rat's ass details".


@RebateMonger: That Connor was huge at the time. I think I had 120 and 170 around '92.
 
mv2devnull said:
@RebateMonger: That Connor was huge at the time. I think I had 120 and 170 around '92.
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I always get the spelling wrong. It was ConnEr.

That 200 MB Conner was an amazing piece of hardware. It was my first IDE disk, my first 3.5-inch disk, and, I think, my first disk to use a voice coil actuator instead of a stepper motor. It was 1/3 the volume, used half the power, and was much quieter than contemporary MFM disks. I used it for about ten years, but the last time I tried to fire it up I don't think it was functional.
 
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