Whoozyerdaddy
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And yet another intelligent statement from the environmental wing of the board.
Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaa... strip mining for oil.
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And yet another intelligent statement from the environmental wing of the board.
Bwaaaaaaahahahahahaa... strip mining for oil.
Right...because you and your ideologues should dictate how much gas milage my car or SUV should get. :roll:
CaptnKirk
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Bubba - I don't care if your SUV gets ONE mile per gallon, it's YOU that pays for the gas.
But your children and their children are the ones who will have to deal with the higher cost of energy in their future when
every year of driving a gas hog would have provided most other vehicles with gas for a three or four year time line.
There was a time where the responsible industry made vehicles that were an improvement on the technology,
not just a gloss over of incompetence.
The cars that were made more fuel efficient as a result of the '70's Energy Fiasco not only were more efficient,
they were less polluting, AND PROVIDED MORE POWER.
You ain't seen nothing yet. Who do you think is paying for all the fuels that the Military is using to support the war effort ?
You are already paying for that. And when the war ends and the troops come home, where is the PROFIT MARGIN for Big Oil coming from ?
You'll have to pay more even though the consumption is reduced to make up the profit diference. Another lesson from Vietnam.
In case you were unaware, there is, or at least was, but I doubt they've removed it, a tax deduction of up to $100,000 for vehicles weighing over 6,000lbs that are used for at least 50% work.
While the handful of contractors and others who use trucks to their fullest, countless others are able to buy the least effecient vehicles and get a massive tax deduction for it. Am I saying people can't spend their money how they see fit? No, I'm not. But when people do everything they can to be environmentally friendly, but those who prefer to screw over the environment get all of the benefits, there is something a bit asinine in our legislation, isn't there?
Here is a quote from a Providence newspaper:
"Anyway, Senator Kennedy and his friends don't want the windmills, don't want oil and gas drilling on Georges Bank, don't want LNG plants, and don't want nuclear energy. And whale oil, while quaint, no longer seems a plausible source of illumination."
So much for teamwork. Maybe whale oil is the answer. Or... we can buy oil from the Middle East!
"Anyway, Senator Kennedy and his friends don't want the windmills, don't want oil and gas drilling on Georges Bank, don't want LNG plants, and don't want nuclear energy. And whale oil, while quaint, no longer seems a plausible source of illumination."
So much for teamwork. Maybe whale oil is the answer. Or... we can buy oil from the Middle East!
Originally posted by: RichPLS
Here is a quote from a Providence newspaper:
"Anyway, Senator Kennedy and his friends don't want the windmills, don't want oil and gas drilling on Georges Bank, don't want LNG plants, and don't want nuclear energy. And whale oil, while quaint, no longer seems a plausible source of illumination."
So much for teamwork. Maybe whale oil is the answer. Or... we can buy oil from the Middle East!
Ted Kennedy gets his source of power from alcohol...
He never did figure out how to make a car float though. (just rumours...Yah right)..
You really can't take a girl fishing in a car..You MUST have a boat or something that will at least float..
Ted is the reason we need serious term limits.
Vic
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Don't you people know politics? These House Republicans got left out of the latest round of bribes and are being pissy about it. That's all. They'll toe the line again as soon as they get they whatever bribe it is they're each looking for.
There is no such thing as "too little too late" when it comes to oil reserves. ANWR is being purposefully left untapped as a way to ensure that, if the world ever does run dangerously low on oil, the US will still have an adequate source on its own land. Environmental issues would mean squat then (not that they actually matter much now, except insofar as strengthening government hold and control over private property without the constitutionally required compensation).
There is no such thing as "too little too late" when it comes to oil reserves. ANWR is being purposefully left untapped as a way to ensure that, if the world ever does run dangerously low on oil, the US will still have an adequate source on its own land. Environmental issues would mean squat then (not that they actually matter much now, except insofar as strengthening government hold and control over private property without the constitutionally required compensation).
The 9/11 Commission failed to look into, in any depth, the linkage between the President brother, Marvin Bush, a company called Stratesec, and Saudi intelligence. IMO, that linkage is at least as big a story as are these recent reports. But no, evidently not significant to the 9/11 Commission.
An instrument of whitewash and coverup is all the 9/11 Commission really is.
An instrument of whitewash and coverup is all the 9/11 Commission really is.
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: judasmachine
I've worked on them bub. No one fills out crap, they even smoke on the damn things, and the butts littler the place. They have to level a good aread and keep it dirt for the trucks and supplies. It's like standing in hell, and believe me that's not far from the truth. Here in TX yeah the noise isn't that bad unless you're seeking quiet. Anyway there isn't any following of rules on the rig, you just do your sh*t and go home (if you can, sometimes you have to live there for several weeks which makes it's own mess) Hell being a roughneck for a while is what made me seek real education.
I've never seen how you guys do it in Texas, all I know is how it's done up here. I've been on the drill rigs myself... It's hardly like standing in hell. Do you guys use mobile rigs? Our rigs drive out to the well head (in the winter so as not to disturb the tundra) tap it, pull the oil, re-cap it and move on. When they're done all you have is a well head.
From what I have seen the wells in texas a pretty clean. There are several near where my parent live, very small footprint.
This is true, my Grandfather has property with two oil wells. He has passed, now my mother collects the monthly checks for barrells removed.
Small footprint, tidy and clean operation. No big deal.
If you "don't care" how much milage my Explorers get, as 'I pay for the gas,' why, then, are you so worried about my children? Have you spent time at the Neverland Ranch? How about you take care of CaptnKirk and I'll take care of my children. With the death of the death tax, they should be able to afford the $11/gallon gas with the money I will leave them...now that the Democrats aren't raping them for 40%
Perhaps my "gas hogs" are doing more of a public service than harm, as the sooner I use up all the fuel out there, the sooner we'll develop alternative fuels...hydrogen, et al. Therefore, I think I am exacerbating technology gains and making the world a better place.
Originally posted by: RichPLS
Two dozen House Republicans have publicly criticized the GOP leadership's plan to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling by attaching language to a filibuster-proof budget measure. In a letter to Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and other House leaders, the rebel GOPers -- including three committee chairs -- wrote that the budget process "is an inappropriate venue to be debating this important environmental issue." While the House has repeatedly approved plans to drill in the Arctic Refuge in recent years, the threat of a filibuster in the Senate has always stymied such efforts.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/08/10/...refuge.ap/index.html?section=cnn_space
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What if you were to map the states from which those two dozen republicans come?
You Know its Bad...
When Republicans have to resort to calling themselves "rational" and "moderate".
I know you are intelluctually honest. So, would you please tell your friends and the media outlets you listen to or read to quit complaining about the rising price of oil and gasoline?
Thanks.
Do you see me complaining about gas prices?
Lets see how much difference it makes...
My crews drive average of 60 miles a day, at about 15MPG, consumes about 4 gallons of fuel.
4x$1gallon = $4 day
4x$4gallos = $16 day
Difference of $12 day
Divided by 8 hours, means I need to add $1.50 per hour to rates to account for increase to cover excess gas prices up to $4 per gallon until they get back down to $1 gallon...
Lets see, I bill $110 an hour, that would be 1% of billing...
If it bothers me hard and long enough, I will raise my rates 10% [/shrugs]
Lets see how much difference it makes...
My crews drive average of 60 miles a day, at about 15MPG, consumes about 4 gallons of fuel.
4x$1gallon = $4 day
4x$4gallos = $16 day
Difference of $12 day
Divided by 8 hours, means I need to add $1.50 per hour to rates to account for increase to cover excess gas prices up to $4 per gallon until they get back down to $1 gallon...
Lets see, I bill $110 an hour, that would be 1% of billing...
If it bothers me hard and long enough, I will raise my rates 10% [/shrugs]
..and you could operate like that for 127 weeks and still not reach the level of fuel consumption Kerry used specifically to fly a hair stylist out to trim his sideburns on the campaign trail. Perhaps it was his wife's jet, though, just like the half dozen SUVs she owns :roll: ...not that I am questioning his patriotism.
CaptnKirk
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