The Eloquent Professor - Deconstructing America

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Moonbeam

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Another great read from my favorite compilation site of conservative reading - American Thinker Just thought I'd share for my brethren here to enjoy, ponder upon and tear assunder. Remember kids that it may seem like fun now, but there's every chance that it won't be some time in the near future. I can hear the boots as they march through the streets right now. Will your door be knocked upon or will you be doing the knocking...? A choice you may have yet to make. Choose wisely.





Other major compilation of reading my favorite conservative de-reading.. Americans where there are simply enjoy look at me and my brothers to by assunder here, share, this can sounds like give pleasure for children, but is so many chances they will some time in draw near future. Roaming the streets now even as I could hear sneakers door, you, you, you do. They will do? You can has yet to make a choice. choose with.
 

boomerang

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Other major compilation of reading my favorite conservative de-reading.. Americans where there are simply enjoy look at me and my brothers to by assunder here, share, this can sounds like give pleasure for children, but is so many chances they will some time in draw near future. Roaming the streets now even as I could hear sneakers door, you, you, you do. They will do? You can has yet to make a choice. choose with.
Take the meds down a couple of notches.
 

Moonbeam

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Take the meds down a couple of notches.

No meds here. I just translated your words into Hindi and then into Haitian Creole and back into English just to be sure I knew what you're saying and because you seem to enjoy reading absurdity.

Serious question now.... What do you think might have happened to you that the horse shit you posted could some how impresses you? I know that my comment assumes it horse shit, but hey, it was really terrible. Do you have any notion at all that's so? I know how humiliating it would be to love horse shit anywhere else that someplace that shovels it, so I understand why you might not want to admit your mistake publicly, but for your own sake do a bit more internal questioning of your judgment, if you can. I mean, come on, that thing you posted really stank and was filled with what I could only describe as insanity. Aside from hoping to help you recover from whatever it is that as destroyed what should pass in you as common sense, I just pray it wasn't you who wrote it. But even if you did, don't give up. There must be some way back.
 

Texashiker

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Wonders how many people criticizing the author has published content on the net?

As for the linked article in the OP, women will not achieve the same recognition as men, because the majority of women are not willing to do the same jobs as men.

How many women have been killed in industrial accidents, as compared to men?

How many women died from black lung disease, as compared to men?

The fact is, the majority of women are not willing to do the dangerous jobs that get people killed. But they want to go to college and get a CEO job?

How about they start at the bottom, just like everyone else, and work their way up?
 
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lotus503

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Wonders how many people criticizing the author has published content on the net? So one has to be a writer to be a judge of what someone else writes? that makes no sense, almost all published works are evaluated and given accolades by readers not authors.

As for the linked article in the OP, women will not achieve the same recognition as men, because the majority of women are not willing to do the same jobs as men. Or is it culturally some jobs have been labeled mens work and women are not encouraged to apply?

How many women have been killed in industrial accidents, as compared to men? Doesnt have anything to do with anything

How many women died from black lung disease, as compared to men? because yeah coal miners would have loved to have their wives work next to them in the mines, I suspect they would have been discouraged or forbidden to do so.

The fact is, the majority of women are not willing to do the dangerous jobs that get people killed. But they want to go to college and get a CEO job?
This is completely ignorant and false

How about they start at the bottom, just like everyone else, and work their way up? Sorry Pal Blue collar workers don't usually career path to CEO and Most CEOs didn't start in the mail room. to be a CEO today you have to be self made or have an advanced eduction


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boomerang

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No meds here. I just translated your words into Hindi and then into Haitian Creole and back into English just to be sure I knew what you're saying and because you seem to enjoy reading absurdity.

Serious question now.... What do you think might have happened to you that the horse shit you posted could some how impresses you? I know that my comment assumes it horse shit, but hey, it was really terrible. Do you have any notion at all that's so? I know how humiliating it would be to love horse shit anywhere else that someplace that shovels it, so I understand why you might not want to admit your mistake publicly, but for your own sake do a bit more internal questioning of your judgment, if you can. I mean, come on, that thing you posted really stank and was filled with what I could only describe as insanity. Aside from hoping to help you recover from whatever it is that as destroyed what should pass in you as common sense, I just pray it wasn't you who wrote it. But even if you did, don't give up. There must be some way back.
Would it be OK with you if I filtered all future posts of mine through you first because clearly you are a true genius and are the only person here who is even remotely qualified to pass judgment on the validity of posts?

Nah, just fuckin' with ya dumbass!

You're a self admitted clown and all your posts come with a disclaimer that no matter what psychobabble drivel you dream up in whatever state short of catatonic you may be in may just be sarcasm and not your real opinion. You have so little confidence in your own abilities, your own thought processes that you feel compelled to disclaim everything you say in order to keep your psyche in a happy place. But that doesn't satisfy you either does it?

That's all I've got for ya bupkis. My post was to encourage thought but unfortunately you can only think of Moonbeam. I'd truly love to pass gobs of time fucking with your head over and over but my parents taught me that it's cruel to make fun of the kids that ride the short bus. It must be scary to know that someday you'll be capable of little more than eating, shitting and the occasional fart. Your condition deteriorates regularly, you are institutionalized, purged of your meds and the cycle renews. The "spells" get closer together and you know that one day there will be no periods of "normalcy" between them. In older times you'd have been drowned in a burlap bag or burned at the stake. Now, you go through a longer hell.

No disclaimer in my sig. But which that I wrote above represents my true thoughts? Which is just my usual sarcasm?

This place is addictive, I will give it that. Have a nice day! :awe:
 

Moonbeam

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Would it be OK with you if I filtered all future posts of mine through you first because clearly you are a true genius and are the only person here who is even remotely qualified to pass judgment on the validity of posts?

Nah, just fuckin' with ya dumbass!

You're a self admitted clown and all your posts come with a disclaimer that no matter what psychobabble drivel you dream up in whatever state short of catatonic you may be in may just be sarcasm and not your real opinion. You have so little confidence in your own abilities, your own thought processes that you feel compelled to disclaim everything you say in order to keep your psyche in a happy place. But that doesn't satisfy you either does it?

That's all I've got for ya bupkis. My post was to encourage thought but unfortunately you can only think of Moonbeam. I'd truly love to pass gobs of time fucking with your head over and over but my parents taught me that it's cruel to make fun of the kids that ride the short bus. It must be scary to know that someday you'll be capable of little more than eating, shitting and the occasional fart. Your condition deteriorates regularly, you are institutionalized, purged of your meds and the cycle renews. The "spells" get closer together and you know that one day there will be no periods of "normalcy" between them. In older times you'd have been drowned in a burlap bag or burned at the stake. Now, you go through a longer hell.

No disclaimer in my sig. But which that I wrote above represents my true thoughts? Which is just my usual sarcasm?

This place is addictive, I will give it that. Have a nice day! :awe:

Oh Dear, all I can say is that in spending your career decrying the mote in my eyes, the splintered beam obstructing your own gaze abides unheeded. Meanwhile, all but that faithful remnant left to bear witness to America's descent into subordinancy are oblivious to the knowledge that the cage door of servility is slamming shut -- a testament to the lemming-like docility of a people like you as it waxes helplessly towards critical mass. Pay no attention to the wake up call. There is no door in your house to knock upon, only a bricked up wall. Next time you go looking for literature to read start with Dick and Jane.
 

fskimospy

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Wonders how many people criticizing the author has published content on the net?

As for the linked article in the OP, women will not achieve the same recognition as men, because the majority of women are not willing to do the same jobs as men.

How many women have been killed in industrial accidents, as compared to men?

How many women died from black lung disease, as compared to men?

The fact is, the majority of women are not willing to do the dangerous jobs that get people killed. But they want to go to college and get a CEO job?

How about they start at the bottom, just like everyone else, and work their way up?

Just so you know, most CEOs don't start at the bottom.
 

Texashiker

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Or is it culturally some jobs have been labeled mens work and women are not encouraged to apply?

Isn't that what the womens movement is about, women breaking into jobs usually held by men?

Doesnt have anything to do with anything

Sure it does, it shows most women are not willing to fully integrate into the workforce.

If women want equal rights and equal pay in the workforce, then they need to get their share of the dirty and dangerous jobs.


This is completely ignorant and false

Prove me wrong.

Name one industrial accident where more women were killed then men? And not a fire in a sewing shop either.

Name one refinery explosion where more women were killed then men.

Name one offshore drilling rig accident where more women were killed then men.

Name any dangerous job where more women were killed then men - logging, welding, construction,, anything, please show me.

The truth is, dangerous jobs are left to the men.


Just so you know, most CEOs don't start at the bottom.

Men have earned the right to rule the world through centuries of sacrifices.

What do you think I'm doing right now, using ink and a quill?

Do you have a blog?
 
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umbrella39

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I always think it's so cute when you and First untangle from one another briefly and type a few words here.

I think it's so cute when your colostomy bag bursts and you fling and paste the contents here... you've turned into a paranoid loon.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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What do you think I'm doing right now, using ink and a quill?

Many of the greatest works were by quill and ink. Perhaps the effort reduced the amount of drivel that we have to deal with today. I doubt that anyone can find a significant writing donein such a florid and needlessly abstruse style.
 

Charles Kozierok

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Wonders how many people criticizing the author has published content on the net?

I've published probably more than anyone else here, going back to when the Web was shiny and new and Google just a gleam in its inventors' eyes, and I thought the piece such pretentious bullshit that I didn't even think it worth commenting on. Feel better now?

A good rule of thumb is that anyone who describes themselves with an adjective like "eloquent" is probably compensating for something.
 

Texashiker

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It takes a well rounded workforce for society to operate. We need everyone from trash collectors to rocket scientist.

As with the opening post, and the linked article, the majority of women are not willing to fully integrate into the workforce.

The majority of women in the workforce (not all women) shy away from jobs that make society function at its basic level, but they complain that women CEOs do not make as much as men.

Recruiter - we have a job opening making $75,000 working in a chemical plant processing Cyanide and Phosgene.

The majority of women (not all women) - no thank you, do you have anything working in an office?

How can the feminist movement complain about women not making as much as men, when the majority of women will not preform the same job duties as men?

So what if Phosgene turns to an acid inside your lungs, you have a family to support. And that is what men are told.To society it is ok for men to work the dangerous jobs and its ok for women to turn those jobs down.

Until women fully integrate into the workforce, they should make less money then men.

I've published probably more than anyone else here, going back to when the Web was shiny and new and Google just a gleam in its inventors' eyes, and I thought the piece such pretentious bullshit that I didn't even think it worth commenting on. Feel better now?

Yes I feel better now.
 

Charles Kozierok

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It takes a well rounded workforce for society to operate. We need everyone from trash collectors to rocket scientist.

It also takes well-rounded people to have children, ensure kids are educated and fed and trained and disciplined, make a home, keep the home running smoothly, and provide support to the person who goes out to the workforce.

In fact, it takes more "rounding" to do that than just to do the same job every day.

As with the opening post, and the linked article, the majority of women are not willing to fully integrate into the workforce.

And most men are not willing to fully integrate into their own families.

The majority of women in the workforce (not all women) shy away from jobs that make society function at its basic level, but they complain that women CEOs do not make as much as men.

I wasn't aware that processing cyanide was "making society function at its basic level". I thought society was based around families. Gosh, what a wake-up call!

How can the feminist movement complain about women not making as much as men, when the majority of women will not preform the same job duties as men?

That's not what they are complaining about. But don't let that stop you from ranting about nonsense.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Until women fully integrate into the workforce, they should make less money then men.

Absolutely wrong. When women perform the same as men in a job and have equal time in they should get paid what their male counterparts do. I'd be ashamed to say to my wife "well darling you may be just as good or better and have the same time on the job, but because are a woman you deserve less". You should too.

Part of the reason that women can't do certain tasks is because they can do something you can't and that's bear children. You have a 5 second contribution towards future generations and she's biologically obligated to 9 months. Safety regulations are therefore created with this in mind because if you had a two headed baby you would be screaming. Think vaccinations are problematic? Have your next child in utero be exposed to some of the teratogens out there and you would pray every day to take back your words, but it won't help.
 

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It takes a well rounded workforce for society to operate. We need everyone from trash collectors to rocket scientist.

As with the opening post, and the linked article, the majority of women are not willing to fully integrate into the workforce.

The majority of women in the workforce (not all women) shy away from jobs that make society function at its basic level, but they complain that women CEOs do not make as much as men.

Recruiter - we have a job opening making $75,000 working in a chemical plant processing Cyanide and Phosgene.

The majority of women (not all women) - no thank you, do you have anything working in an office?

How can the feminist movement complain about women not making as much as men, when the majority of women will not preform the same job duties as men?

So what if Phosgene turns to an acid inside your lungs, you have a family to support. And that is what men are told.To society it is ok for men to work the dangerous jobs and its ok for women to turn those jobs down.

Until women fully integrate into the workforce, they should make less money then men.
This is awesome.

The fraternity of wealthy privileged men is entitled to lead and be payed exorbitantly, on account of all the other men who work in dirty jobs, and are not particularly well-paid.

I'm sure there is a Fortune-500 CEO who started out with a broom, for real (not on some internship). But this doesn't change the fact: That's not how it works. Coal miners and Chemical plant workers do not become CEOs.
 

Texashiker

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That's not what they are complaining about. But don't let that stop you from ranting about nonsense.

The article in the opening post there is a comment about men running the world.

That statement is true and correct, partially because men are willing to do the jobs most women will not do.


I'm sure there is a Fortune-500 CEO who started out with a broom, for real (not on some internship). But this doesn't change the fact: That's not how it works. Coal miners and Chemical plant workers do not become CEOs.

I heard dell computers started out in a garage. If that is true, who swept the garage floor?
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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The article in the opening post there is a comment about men running the world.

That statement is true and correct, partially because men are willing to do the jobs most women will not do.

I'm going to ask a "yes or no" question. If your wife was working a job for the same length as a man, did the job as well, would you tell her (or privately think if you are would be afraid to) that she deserves to make less than a male? If he got a raise and she did not, how would you explain how his junk is better than hers and so she deserves less?
 

Texashiker

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I'm going to ask a "yes or no" question. If your wife was working a job for the same length as a man, did the job as well, would you tell her (or privately think if you are would be afraid to) that she deserves to make less than a male? If he got a raise and she did not, how would you explain how his junk is better than hers and so she deserves less?

Yes, I think my wife deserves to make just as much as a man.

But, you need to ask me what happened when my wife was put on a night shift working by herself.
 

fskimospy

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The article in the opening post there is a comment about men running the world.

That statement is true and correct, partially because men are willing to do the jobs most women will not do.

I heard dell computers started out in a garage. If that is true, who swept the garage floor?

Men are not becoming CEOs because other men are doing dirty and/or dangerous jobs. I would love to see a diagram with the percentages of CEOs that have come from the manual labor sectors of their company.

Where is your evidence that doing manual labor or other such 'man only' work relates to an increased likelihood of becoming upper management? If anything, I bet there is an inverse correlation.
 

Texashiker

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Men are not becoming CEOs because other men are doing dirty and/or dangerous jobs. I would love to see a diagram with the percentages of CEOs that have come from the manual labor sectors of their company.

Where is your evidence that doing manual labor or other such 'man only' work relates to an increased likelihood of becoming upper management? If anything, I bet there is an inverse correlation.

The job you currently hold, did you do any demeaning work to get there?

Maybe work rotating shifts, long hours, sweep the floors,,, anything like that? What did you do to build your job experience and qualifications?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Where is your evidence that doing manual labor or other such 'man only' work relates to an increased likelihood of becoming upper management? If anything, I bet there is an inverse correlation.

That's a fact. Companies aren't interested in "grunts", they want those taught dogmatic business economics. I think that's part of our corporate problem.

To illustrate, I was working for a fellow as a lad and he was about to retire. It was a private business, with about a hundred employees. He was ready to retire, and his son went to school and got his business degree. One might think that he just walked in and took over, but his dad insisted he learn just about every every aspect of what happened. He had to work with the employees from the janitorial staff to the office and everything in between. I don't mean he watched them, he had to work with them and learn on the job first hand. He turned out to be an exceptional manager because of it.

I realize that the CEO of a large corporation couldn't do all that had to be done, but they had ought to be required to have some form of internship where they are actually on the floor and know what happens in the real day to day operations of what they will control. My corporate execs are a severe example of cluelessness. They make policies which are completely inappropriate at best and often harmful. Our stock price is in the toilet and their response is that we aren't exercising their mandates properly. Well stupid no matter how well enforced doesn't make things better, but they actually have no idea what we do. They look at reports and projections without a real grasp of what's going on. Most companies are in between, but if the CEO of the failed GM was asked what was happening to his company I would wager just about anything he said would be completely out of sync with those who actually do the work, or even the driving public.

That can't be good.
 

Charles Kozierok

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The article in the opening post there is a comment about men running the world.

That statement is true and correct, partially because men are willing to do the jobs most women will not do.

Mostly because men decided that the world should work that way. And they got to make that decision mostly because women have babies and men are physically stronger and were able to impose their will on society.

The job you currently hold, did you do any demeaning work to get there?

Maybe work rotating shifts, long hours, sweep the floors,,, anything like that? What did you do to build your job experience and qualifications?

You're kidding, right?

The typical executive or professional these days spends exactly zero time doing any of that. They go to school, get a degree, and get a job in their chosen field.

Do you have any kids? Do you know how much "demeaning work" is involved in raising kids or keeping a household running smoothly?
 
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