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WelshBloke said:
There absolutely does seem to be a "look at how smart I am to have figured this out and told everyone about it in public but now I am too committed and can't back down" approach to the whole thing.
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Howard Stern says people like this want to be special, they want super powers.
He usually says that about Women who claim to be witches that can cast spells. The woman is usually some fat chick.

I think it's a similar mentality with these guys
 
WelshBloke said:
There absolutely does seem to be a "look at how smart I am to have figured this out and told everyone about it in public but now I am too committed and can't back down" approach to the whole thing.
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Indeed, the visual evidence of something odd is plain enough. It's the motivation behind it that is hard to see because, at least in my opinion, any of us with ego is subject to it and that would include me. Seeing, real seeing isn't exactly flattering to the ego.
 
Moonbeam said:
Indeed, the visual evidence of something odd is plain enough. It's the motivation behind it that is hard to see because, at least in my opinion, any of us with ego is subject to it and that would include me. Seeing, real seeing isn't exactly flattering to the ego.
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Like everything it's the degree that matters.
Having a healthy skepticism is great, refusing to believe anything "they" tell you isn't.
Most people don't have to skew their view of reality to fit their mindset anywhere near what the flat earth true believer's have to.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Howard Stern says people like this want to be special, they want super powers.
He usually says that about Women who claim to be witches that can cast spells. The woman is usually some fat chick.

I think it's a similar mentality with these guys
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I think there's certainly something of that in it, as well as a bloody mindedness that they won't be told anything by sheeple.

Some of them are undoubtedly there because it's an interesting thought experiment and some are broken.
 
WelshBloke said:
Like everything it's the degree that matters.
Having a healthy skepticism is great, refusing to believe anything "they" tell you isn't.
Most people don't have to skew their view of reality to fit their mindset anywhere near what the flat earth true believer's have to.
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It's a misconception that the human mind is any good at an objective view of reality. Just look at how long it took the human race to work out basic motion mechanics. '

Less people believe in flat earth and such these days only because we managed to develop an arduous and sophisticated education system, and stigmatize non-participation/adherence to it.
 
agent00f said:
It's a misconception that the human mind is any good at an objective view of reality. Just look at how long it took the human race to work out basic motion mechanics. '
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Meh. We've advanced incredibly quickly in my opinion. It's not that long ago we were nomadic hunter gatherers more worried about starving to death than anything else. Once we got the struggle of life thing sorted and had time to think about more abstract things we've done quite a lot pretty quickly.
agent00f said:
Less people believe in flat earth and such these days only because we managed to develop an arduous and sophisticated education system, and stigmatize non-participation/adherence to it.
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Well yeah, we're a relatively short lived thing individually and our triumph isn't our individual intelligence it's passing that knowledge on and having subsequent generations add to it.
 
WelshBloke said:
Meh. We've advanced incredibly quickly in my opinion. It's not that long ago we were nomadic hunter gatherers more worried about starving to death than anything else. Once we got the struggle of life thing sorted and had time to think about more abstract things we've done quite a lot pretty quickly.


Well yeah, we're a relatively short lived thing individually and our triumph isn't our individual intelligence it's passing that knowledge on and having subsequent generations add to it.
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Even hunter gathers had a lot of free time think about how reality works, the prehistoric pagans came up with what we after many millennia found to be comically wrong notions of how the world is, but only after the abrahamic religions thought the same for millennia with their equally incorrect theories.

Just think about how many people out of those who've ever lived were any good at determining empirical reality. Then contrast with the percentile who're good at determining what "reality" benefits their self-interest. It's comparison of ~0% vs ~100.
 
agent00f said:
Even hunter gathers had a lot of free time think about how reality works, the prehistoric pagans came up with what we after many millennia found to be comically wrong notions of how the world is, but only after the abrahamic religions thought the same for millennia with their equally incorrect theories.
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Things is that if you don't have a particularly great life expectancy, live in a cave, pass knowledge on with crude cave paintings and struggle with starvation every day I'm going to give you a pass on not developing advanced physics from basic principles.
 
WelshBloke said:
Things is that if you don't have a particularly great life expectancy, live in a cave, pass knowledge on with crude cave paintings and struggle with starvation every day I'm going to give you a pass on not developing advanced physics from basic principles.
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Basic mechanics important to any sort of civilization is not abstract physics, neither is considering stars/planets in the sky as distant versions of ourselves instead of magical incantation.
 
agent00f said:
It's a misconception that the human mind is any good at an objective view of reality. Just look at how long it took the human race to work out basic motion mechanics. '

Less people believe in flat earth and such these days only because we managed to develop an arduous and sophisticated education system, and stigmatize non-participation/adherence to it.
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You mean an arduous and sophisticated indoctrination system.
 
dank69 said:
You mean an arduous and sophisticated indoctrination system.
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Sure, because if it were easy for students to come to correct conclusions thinking for themselves education would be unnecessary, and that necessity speaks for itself in the difference between non- vs well educated places. Many don't realize the sheer amount of information gathered over human history summarized into a paucity of curriculum hours.
 
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Dammit.. I gotta bro that is now all in on this crap and all other conspiracies. Aye... all I can do is tell to not let it engulf his life. I guess NASA is scamming the entire world for some reason or another, and illuminati has this giant armada protecting the perimeter of the flat globe. Wtf??

It's not just Tila Tequila though, but rapper B.O.B is on this shit and Kyrie Irving to. I'm sure they can afford to do some real research though. Maybe go to where the large telecopes are to get a better look into space, take a trip to Antartica.. Bourdain was just there (of course, he's in on the mass conspiracy to). Science is akin to the liberal religion to these people.

Jim Jeffries guy on comedy central called this the age of bullshit. He couldn't be more right.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
I believe there's a correlation between how stupid the shit a person believes is and how desperately that person wants other people to believe the same shit. It's like they live in Family Feud world and are trying to make their belief the #1 answer on the board so that it seems less stupid.

It would be nice if there was an intelligence test that had to be passed to be allowed to vote or reproduce.
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Hell, I'd be happy if we at least have this test for POTUS. I mean who can hold it, let alone vote for it.

You pretty much described the WH communication strategy.
 
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