The Duggar Family Welcomes Their 17th Child

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q...rfull#From_Protestants

hey, they don't strap bombs on their kids to blow people up

What's your point? They don't get bombs dropped on them either.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ni4ni
I know the Duggars through political ties.

I do know however, that Jim Bob made some wise investing decisions while young and is reaping the benefits now.

They do not live off of the government.

Excuse me, you could not be anymore wrong.

Politicians get set with a pension for life, benefits for life and the money flows to each and every child.

Arkansas taxpayers will be paying out the wazoo for each and every member of that family and their kids and their kids after that forever.

Dave, are you just making shit up? Yeah, he probably gets a pension, but it's not perpetual like you describe.

Dave? Talking about shit he doesn't know about and getting it absolutely, 100% incorrect? Never!

This is about what i expect from you. Dave is absolutely correct. If you had complete control of your pension (yes, politicians determine their pensions, benefits, salary) would you not make it last forever and be a super sweet deal? :roll:

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ni4ni
I know the Duggars through political ties.

I do know however, that Jim Bob made some wise investing decisions while young and is reaping the benefits now.

They do not live off of the government.

Excuse me, you could not be anymore wrong.

Politicians get set with a pension for life, benefits for life and the money flows to each and every child.

Arkansas taxpayers will be paying out the wazoo for each and every member of that family and their kids and their kids after that forever.

Dave, are you just making shit up? Yeah, he probably gets a pension, but it's not perpetual like you describe.

Dave? Talking about shit he doesn't know about and getting it absolutely, 100% incorrect? Never!

Until someone can show proof taxpayers will not being paying that family forever I stand by what I said.

Politicians and their familes are set for life.

http://www.senate.gov/referenc...ment_for_members.shtml

Members of Congress are eligible for a pension at age 62 if they have completed at least five years of service. They are eligible for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service. The amount of the pension depends on years of service and the average of the highest three years of salary. By law, the starting amount of a member?s retirement annuity may not exceed 80 percent of his or her final salary. As of October 1, 2000, the average annual pension for members of Congress who have retired under CSRS is $52,464, and $46,932 for retirees under FERS-only or both FERS/CSRS.





now considering the guy RAN and LOST he is not getting a pension.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ni4ni
I know the Duggars through political ties.

I do know however, that Jim Bob made some wise investing decisions while young and is reaping the benefits now.

They do not live off of the government.

Excuse me, you could not be anymore wrong.

Politicians get set with a pension for life, benefits for life and the money flows to each and every child.

Arkansas taxpayers will be paying out the wazoo for each and every member of that family and their kids and their kids after that forever.

Dave, are you just making shit up? Yeah, he probably gets a pension, but it's not perpetual like you describe.

Dave? Talking about shit he doesn't know about and getting it absolutely, 100% incorrect? Never!

Until someone can show proof taxpayers will not being paying that family forever I stand by what I said.

Politicians and their familes are set for life.

You made the claim, you back it up! If I'm going to put the time into researching it just to make you look like an idiot. That's a waste of my time - we all know you're an idiot. You have to give me some more incentive.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: waggy

http://www.senate.gov/referenc...ment_for_members.shtml

Members of Congress are eligible for a pension at age 62 if they have completed at least five years of service. They are eligible for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service. The amount of the pension depends on years of service and the average of the highest three years of salary. By law, the starting amount of a member?s retirement annuity may not exceed 80 percent of his or her final salary. As of October 1, 2000, the average annual pension for members of Congress who have retired under CSRS is $52,464, and $46,932 for retirees under FERS-only or both FERS/CSRS.





now considering the guy RAN and LOST he is not getting a pension.

He was in the state legislature, so it would be a state pension.

 

[Capt Caveman]

17 kids = 17 exemptions on their tax return

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
17 kids = 17 exemptions on their tax return

wrong.

aint it something after 3 you don't get a benifit?



mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Arkansas taxpayers will be paying out the wazoo for each and every member of that family and their kids and their kids after that forever.

So how many kids is too many? How many should he have?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

No one has shown difinitively that they are not getting state government money.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
17 kids = 17 exemptions on their tax return

wrong.

aint it something after 3 you don't get a benifit?

Wrong? Please provide me a link.

And the family can also take a Child tax credit for all children under the age of 17.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

No one has shown difinitively that they are not getting state government money.

So you just assume they are? 😕 No one has ever shown definitively that you don't like to pick up transvestite prostitutes. Prove you don't. Can't do it? I guess you do then.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

No one has shown difinitively that they are not getting state government money.

So you just assume they are? 😕 No one has ever shown definitively that you don't like to pick up transvestite prostitutes. Prove you don't. Can't do it? I guess you do then.

A member claimed that they are not getting Government money with no proof.

In my opinion I suspect they are.

How come you don't go after the one that claimed with no proof they are not getting Government money?

He was a state official, a simple freedom of information act would be all it take for the member that made the claim first that they are not getting government money. That member says they are in Arkansas and claims to actually know the people.

Let's see the proof and back up from that member.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

No one has shown difinitively that they are not getting state government money.

So you just assume they are? 😕 No one has ever shown definitively that you don't like to pick up transvestite prostitutes. Prove you don't. Can't do it? I guess you do then.

A member claimed that they are not getting Government money with no proof.

In my opinion I suspect they are.

How come you don't go after the one that claimed with no proof they are not getting Government money?

He was a state official, a simple freedom of information act would be all it take for the member that made the claim first that they are not getting government money. That member says they are in Arkansas and claims to actually know the people.

Let's see the proof and back up from that member.

It's not about who said what first, but if you want to make it be about that, then caivoma claimed in the third post of the thread that they're getting taxpayer money.

But it's not about that. Dave, I know you hate America and Americans, but try to set that aside. In this country we don't assume someone is doing something wrong without evidence. Innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz. Now obviously no one is claiming they're breaking the law, but you're making judgments about their character that you have no basis for making.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

And then homercles337 usually comes along and starts pulling stuff out out of Dave's ass for him. Nice little duo they make. :laugh:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

And then homercles337 usually comes along and starts pulling stuff out out of Dave's ass for him. Nice little duo they make. :laugh:

Oh yeah, I liked that one... Dave's right. Why? Because the guy was in the state legislature, and if you were in the state legislature wouldn't you vote for a pension for yourself and all of your descendants in perpetuity?

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

No one has shown difinitively that they are not getting state government money.

So you just assume they are? 😕 No one has ever shown definitively that you don't like to pick up transvestite prostitutes. Prove you don't. Can't do it? I guess you do then.

A member claimed that they are not getting Government money with no proof.

In my opinion I suspect they are.

How come you don't go after the one that claimed with no proof they are not getting Government money?

He was a state official, a simple freedom of information act would be all it take for the member that made the claim first that they are not getting government money. That member says they are in Arkansas and claims to actually know the people.

Let's see the proof and back up from that member.

Even if he was getting a pension of some sort (which he very well may be), how is that a problem? Is he not entitled to the pay that comes with the position? It's not like his pension increases the more kids his wife pops out. Do you begrudge Bush his $400,000 a year salary from the taxpayers?

What everyone HAD been talking about was WELFARE. Not someone receiving what is rightfully his. Nobody else gives a shit if he's getting a pension because that has absolutely nothing to do with his procreation. Frankly you're the only one around here that WOULD care because you can't stand that anyone is more successful than you.

Viper GTS

 

[MrDudeMan]

^ zing!

 

[TheGizmo]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

No one has shown difinitively that they are not getting state government money.

So you just assume they are? 😕 No one has ever shown definitively that you don't like to pick up transvestite prostitutes. Prove you don't. Can't do it? I guess you do then.

A member claimed that they are not getting Government money with no proof.

In my opinion I suspect they are.

How come you don't go after the one that claimed with no proof they are not getting Government money?

He was a state official, a simple freedom of information act would be all it take for the member that made the claim first that they are not getting government money. That member says they are in Arkansas and claims to actually know the people.

Let's see the proof and back up from that member.

It's not about who said what first, but if you want to make it be about that, then caivoma claimed in the third post of the thread that they're getting taxpayer money.

But it's not about that. Dave, I know you hate America and Americans, but try to set that aside. In this country we don't assume someone is doing something wrong without evidence. Innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz. Now obviously no one is claiming they're breaking the law, but you're making judgments about their character that you have no basis for making.

whoa, cat fight look out everyone.

 

[0roo0roo]

like it or not we need folks like them to make up for the non breeders in this society. they breed so the feminist career girl doesn't have to. its funny how evolution works. their genetic legacy will be huge compared to a career girl that has one or none.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: WingZero94
From Wikipedia also:

Duggar and his wife Michelle (née Ruark, born 1966) are politically conservative fundamentalist Christians who endorse Quiverfull and the teachings of Bill Gothard. They reportedly live debt-free.[4][5]

You haters in this thread are sick people. These people are very nice, have wonderful children and the money to support them all. Family values are very important to them. I don't feel for the kids at all - they have life - something most of the haters here would have been happy to end for 250 bucks at 'Planned Parenthoot'.

btw whats nee?

 

[mugs]

"née Ruark" means her maiden name was Ruark.

 

[0roo0roo]

ah🙂

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: TheGizmo

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
mugs: oh yeah state legistlature. great pay something like $14k a year. from what i can see pension is set up the same. he can't get it until 62

Well, when Dave doesn't have the facts on his side, he just makes shit up. 😉

No one has shown difinitively that they are not getting state government money.

So you just assume they are? 😕 No one has ever shown definitively that you don't like to pick up transvestite prostitutes. Prove you don't. Can't do it? I guess you do then.

A member claimed that they are not getting Government money with no proof.

In my opinion I suspect they are.

How come you don't go after the one that claimed with no proof they are not getting Government money?

He was a state official, a simple freedom of information act would be all it take for the member that made the claim first that they are not getting government money. That member says they are in Arkansas and claims to actually know the people.

Let's see the proof and back up from that member.

It's not about who said what first, but if you want to make it be about that, then caivoma claimed in the third post of the thread that they're getting taxpayer money.

But it's not about that. Dave, I know you hate America and Americans, but try to set that aside. In this country we don't assume someone is doing something wrong without evidence. Innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz. Now obviously no one is claiming they're breaking the law, but you're making judgments about their character that you have no basis for making.

whoa, cat fight look out everyone.

Hardly a cat fight.

They can't back up their claims that they aren't getting any taxpayer money.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

They can't back up their claims that they aren't getting any taxpayer money.

What reason is there to believe that they are? Other than whatever pension the father might receive from being in the Arkansas state house of representatives for 3 years. What welfare programs do you think they qualify for?

I don't even know why I bother when you're clearly trolling...

Edit: Oh I get it now... you're jealous that one man can afford to raise 17 kids while you are poor and bitter.