The Drug War is Going Well....

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Farmer probably spotted DEA, or realized that his covering vegetation was gone, so he had to bail.

Narcotics cause death, crime and mayhem directly and indirectly. Haven't you seen the commercials where the potheads run over the little kid in the drivethrough?

The illegality of narcotics cause more death, crime and mayhem than the narcotics themselves. And pot isn't even a narcotic.

I agree. If people would stop breaking narcotics laws, there would be a lot less death, crime and mayhem.

Until then, game on.

And the most effective way to achieve that is to repeal the narcotics laws.

Wow, that policy would work great for murder, rape, animal abuse, etc.

Sorry, call me old fashion, but I'm of the opinion that "crime" should actually have a victim.

Remember the children getting ran over by the pothead? That would happen a thousand times a day if marijuana were legal. Why do you want thousands of children to be run down every day? Think of the children.

😉

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Farmer probably spotted DEA, or realized that his covering vegetation was gone, so he had to bail.

Narcotics cause death, crime and mayhem directly and indirectly. Haven't you seen the commercials where the potheads run over the little kid in the drivethrough?

The illegality of narcotics cause more death, crime and mayhem than the narcotics themselves. And pot isn't even a narcotic.

I agree. If people would stop breaking narcotics laws, there would be a lot less death, crime and mayhem.

Until then, game on.

And the most effective way to achieve that is to repeal the narcotics laws.

Wow, that policy would work great for murder, rape, animal abuse, etc.

Sorry, call me old fashion, but I'm of the opinion that "crime" should actually have a victim.

Remember the children getting ran over by the pothead? That would happen a thousand times a day if marijuana were legal. Why do you want thousands of children to be run down every day? Think of the children.

😉

I know you think I'm kidding, but I'm a huge supporter of the war on drugs. I'd put a bullet in every drug dealer's head. They're killers.

 

[IEC]

Ah, my favorite hated phrase: "Think of the children"

What politicians really mean is, "Think of the children so you don't realize we're taking away your rights in order to push our police-state agenda"

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Farmer probably spotted DEA, or realized that his covering vegetation was gone, so he had to bail.

Narcotics cause death, crime and mayhem directly and indirectly. Haven't you seen the commercials where the potheads run over the little kid in the drivethrough?

The illegality of narcotics cause more death, crime and mayhem than the narcotics themselves. And pot isn't even a narcotic.

I agree. If people would stop breaking narcotics laws, there would be a lot less death, crime and mayhem.

Until then, game on.

And the most effective way to achieve that is to repeal the narcotics laws.

Wow, that policy would work great for murder, rape, animal abuse, etc.

Sorry, call me old fashion, but I'm of the opinion that "crime" should actually have a victim.

Remember the children getting ran over by the pothead? That would happen a thousand times a day if marijuana were legal. Why do you want thousands of children to be run down every day? Think of the children.

😉

I know you think I'm kidding, but I'm a huge supporter of the war on drugs. I'd put a bullet in every drug dealer's head. They're killers.

There wouldn't be any drug dealers if drugs were legal.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

The illegality of narcotics cause more death, crime and mayhem than the narcotics themselves. And pot isn't even a narcotic.

We should seize the assets of the narcotics agents and administrators and put them in jail, IMHO. Those Stalinists are the real criminals, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Remember the children getting ran over by the pothead? That would happen a thousand times a day if marijuana were legal. Why do you want thousands of children to be run down every day? Think of the children.

I don't know if you were being tongue-in-cheek or not...but...

Using that line of reasoning, why not just make alcohol illegal?

 

[tomywishbone]

The war on drugs is over; the drugs won. I'm proud to say, I was on the winning team.😀

Party!:music: :beer: :moon:

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: tomywishbone
The war on drugs is over; the drugs won. I'm proud to say, I was on the winning team.😀

Party!:music: :beer: :moon:

Far from over.

I think they should talk about the punishments for drug offenses more in drug education classes. A 17 year old kid found with a bit of weed could find himself thrown in prison with real no shit felons, and that will mess him up for life.

IE: If the drugs don't ruin your life directly, we will ruin your life if you get caught. :thumbsup:

 

[KAZANI]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Using that line of reasoning, why not just make alcohol illegal?

Because that's his poison. 🙂

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: KAZANI

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Using that line of reasoning, why not just make alcohol illegal?

Because that's his poison. 🙂

The last time it was attempted, we didn't have the technology to make a ban on alcohol effective. Today, with income and money transfers heavily tracked, prohibition could be made far more effective. In other words, Big Brother has gotten a lot better at his job.

If it came down to legalizing drugs, or criminalizing alcohol, I'd have to say bye bye alcohol. I wish cigarettes were already illegal.

 

[KAZANI]

Okay, I think you are being sarcastic because I can't fathom anyone being so stupid. Anyway, here is a little poem you will enjoy.

George Clinton "Dope Dog"

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: tomywishbone
The war on drugs is over; the drugs won. I'm proud to say, I was on the winning team.😀

Party!:music: :beer: :moon:

Far from over.

I think they should talk about the punishments for drug offenses more in drug education classes. A 17 year old kid found with a bit of weed could find himself thrown in prison with real no shit felons, and that will mess him up for life.

IE: If the drugs don't ruin your life directly, we will ruin your life if you get caught. :thumbsup:

So you enjoy being part of the problem. If you are being serious then your mind has been twisted by propaganda more so than any drug could ever do.

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Farmer probably spotted DEA, or realized that his covering vegetation was gone, so he had to bail.

Narcotics cause death, crime and mayhem directly and indirectly. Haven't you seen the commercials where the potheads run over the little kid in the drivethrough?

The illegality of narcotics cause more death, crime and mayhem than the narcotics themselves. And pot isn't even a narcotic.

I agree. If people would stop breaking narcotics laws, there would be a lot less death, crime and mayhem.

Until then, game on.

And the most effective way to achieve that is to repeal the narcotics laws.

Wow, that policy would work great for murder, rape, animal abuse, etc.

Sorry, call me old fashion, but I'm of the opinion that "crime" should actually have a victim.

Remember the children getting ran over by the pothead? That would happen a thousand times a day if marijuana were legal. Why do you want thousands of children to be run down every day? Think of the children.

😉

I know you think I'm kidding, but I'm a huge supporter of the war on drugs. I'd put a bullet in every drug dealer's head. They're killers.

There wouldn't be any drug dealers if drugs were legal.

Exactly

Trust me Nebor I probably have far more reasons to wish for the death of all drug dealers then you will ever have, but I know the only way to get rid of them is to take away the need for them.

You could kill 10,000 of them today and they would be filled in within a week or two. These guys have nothing to lose. They either sell drugs and make $500 profit a DAY, or they use their no HS diploma to get a job for $500 every 2 weeks.

I can make the walk up to Colfax Ave right now and show you just how well the "Drug War" is going.

 

[Darwin333]

I find it amusing that anyone in their right mind would think that we are currently "winning" the war on drugs. Its easier for most high school kids to get a bag of weed than it is for them to get a pack of cigs or a six pack. Look at the amount of money we are spending on the war on drugs and tell me that you honestly think we have seen good results from it.

I also find the doomsayers quite amusing when it comes to legalizing marijuana. Why do you assume if you legalize it all of a sudden everyone will be doing it at all hours of the day? I heard one Congressman actually say that if we legalized pot your doctor would be taking a puff or two before he operated on you! Why isn't he scared that all the doctors are drinking a few beers or taking a few shots of whiskey before they operate right now?

You would also be truly surprised at how many successful professionals currently smoke pot in the comfort of their own homes and dangering no one.

One last point. Its been shown over and over again that you can't win the "war on drugs" by simply arresting all the dealers (or the users for that matter). Drugs are an extremely profitable business. You remove one dealer and another one will take his place in short order in a seemingly never ending cycle. The only true way to win the "war on drugs" is to remove the massive profit from selling them. There are two ways that I can see to do that. One is to legalize them and then regulating and taxing them. That will put an end to all of the violence that goes along with selling drugs on the street. The second way will NEVER even be considered because it is way to much Big Brother and an intrusion on peoples lives.

Until then, we will get exactly what we have now. We will be told of studies that show dips and spikes in drug use. We will continue to spend huge sums of money to find, prosecute and jail untold numbers of people a large number of which are peaceful and productive members of society. Their will be continuing violence on the streets from drug dealing and buying, I'll use an example from this thread. MORE DEAD KIDS EVERYDAY .

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: tomywishbone
The war on drugs is over; the drugs won. I'm proud to say, I was on the winning team.😀

Party!:music: :beer: :moon:

Far from over.

I think they should talk about the punishments for drug offenses more in drug education classes. A 17 year old kid found with a bit of weed could find himself thrown in prison with real no shit felons, and that will mess him up for life.

IE: If the drugs don't ruin your life directly, we will ruin your life if you get caught. :thumbsup:

Not here. Unless you have over an ounce and a half of weed you're only getting a fine. That means less money is wasted on incarcerating people who aren't hurting anyone.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Darwin333
I find it amusing that anyone in their right mind would think that we are currently "winning" the war on drugs. Its easier for most high school kids to get a bag of weed than it is for them to get a pack of cigs or a six pack. Look at the amount of money we are spending on the war on drugs and tell me that you honestly think we have seen good results from it.

I also find the doomsayers quite amusing when it comes to legalizing marijuana. Why do you assume if you legalize it all of a sudden everyone will be doing it at all hours of the day? I heard one Congressman actually say that if we legalized pot your doctor would be taking a puff or two before he operated on you! Why isn't he scared that all the doctors are drinking a few beers or taking a few shots of whiskey before they operate right now?

You would also be truly surprised at how many successful professionals currently smoke pot in the comfort of their own homes and dangering no one.

One last point. Its been shown over and over again that you can't win the "war on drugs" by simply arresting all the dealers (or the users for that matter). Drugs are an extremely profitable business. You remove one dealer and another one will take his place in short order in a seemingly never ending cycle. The only true way to win the "war on drugs" is to remove the massive profit from selling them. There are two ways that I can see to do that. One is to legalize them and then regulating and taxing them. That will put an end to all of the violence that goes along with selling drugs on the street. The second way will NEVER even be considered because it is way to much Big Brother and an intrusion on peoples lives.

Until then, we will get exactly what we have now. We will be told of studies that show dips and spikes in drug use. We will continue to spend huge sums of money to find, prosecute and jail untold numbers of people a large number of which are peaceful and productive members of society. Their will be continuing violence on the streets from drug dealing and buying, I'll use an example from this thread. MORE DEAD KIDS EVERYDAY .

There is big money in drugs, but there is also big money in jailing drug users and dealers. The fact that there is a never ending supply of drugs, dealers, users, jailers, prison union lobbyists, narcotics agents, pandering politicians, and stockholders in prison stocks means this mutually beneficial wheel in continue to turn, destroying the society on which it prays, the poor for the dealers, and the tax payers for the prisons. The people with the money, the syndicates and wealthy unions and stock holders will continue to brainwash the public on the need to keep drugs illegal.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Darwin333
I find it amusing that anyone in their right mind would think that we are currently "winning" the war on drugs. Its easier for most high school kids to get a bag of weed than it is for them to get a pack of cigs or a six pack. Look at the amount of money we are spending on the war on drugs and tell me that you honestly think we have seen good results from it.

I also find the doomsayers quite amusing when it comes to legalizing marijuana. Why do you assume if you legalize it all of a sudden everyone will be doing it at all hours of the day? I heard one Congressman actually say that if we legalized pot your doctor would be taking a puff or two before he operated on you! Why isn't he scared that all the doctors are drinking a few beers or taking a few shots of whiskey before they operate right now?

You would also be truly surprised at how many successful professionals currently smoke pot in the comfort of their own homes and dangering no one.

One last point. Its been shown over and over again that you can't win the "war on drugs" by simply arresting all the dealers (or the users for that matter). Drugs are an extremely profitable business. You remove one dealer and another one will take his place in short order in a seemingly never ending cycle. The only true way to win the "war on drugs" is to remove the massive profit from selling them. There are two ways that I can see to do that. One is to legalize them and then regulating and taxing them. That will put an end to all of the violence that goes along with selling drugs on the street. The second way will NEVER even be considered because it is way to much Big Brother and an intrusion on peoples lives.

Until then, we will get exactly what we have now. We will be told of studies that show dips and spikes in drug use. We will continue to spend huge sums of money to find, prosecute and jail untold numbers of people a large number of which are peaceful and productive members of society. Their will be continuing violence on the streets from drug dealing and buying, I'll use an example from this thread. MORE DEAD KIDS EVERYDAY .

THe drug war is just getting warmed up. We're spending a lot of money killing Colombians. Not just DEA, but US military and Blackwater Mercenaries.

The fact is that interdiction simply isn't very effective. We only stop an estimated 10% of drugs from reaching market.

I haven't worked with DEA in some time, but they were getting very close to perfecting what amounted to "biological warfare" that was effective at targeting marijuana, coca plants and opium\poppy producing plants. The idea is to have a fast spreading, extremely contagious, entirely lethal contagion. The problem they were encountering was that some beaurocrats in Washington were afraid that this agent might get out of control and do serious damage to food crops in targeted areas.

So trust me, the drug war is just getting started. We've got all sorts of ideas other than interdictions. That $300 billion a year is going towards all sorts of interesting programs.

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: Nebor


THe drug war is just getting warmed up. We're spending a lot of money killing Colombians. Not just DEA, but US military and Blackwater Mercenaries.

The fact is that interdiction simply isn't very effective. We only stop an estimated 10% of drugs from reaching market.

I haven't worked with DEA in some time, but they were getting very close to perfecting what amounted to "biological warfare" that was effective at targeting marijuana, coca plants and opium\poppy producing plants. The idea is to have a fast spreading, extremely contagious, entirely lethal contagion. The problem they were encountering was that some beaurocrats in Washington were afraid that this agent might get out of control and do serious damage to food crops in targeted areas.

So trust me, the drug war is just getting started. We've got all sorts of ideas other than interdictions. That $300 billion a year is going towards all sorts of interesting programs.

Wouldn't you say that is a rather serious concern? "Biological warfare" on nature doesn't sound like a good idea to me. What if it DOES wipe out a countries food crops? Do you have any idea what the consequences would be, both humane and political.

I have nothing to disprove what you say but reality just doesn't indicate the war on drugs is going anywhere but backwards. Hell, we can't stop them from growing poppies in Afghanistan and we have a large military presence there.

Furthermore, are you really naive enough to believe that if we somehow destroy all of the Coca plants in Columbia that other countries, not as friendly to us, won't pick up the slack? Their is entirely too much money in drugs to stop their production if we happen (doubtful) to actually put a dent in the production of a drug then someone else somewhere else will pick up the slack. Probably more than what you actually stopped because the market price would have been driven up (by the drug war) and it will be MORE profitable for someone to fill the void.

How in the world do you plan to scour the entire globe for people who grow these plants? Hell, how would you scour just the countries that would allow us to enter their airspace to look for the plants in the first place?

Not to mention designer drugs, some of which can be made in bathtubs with easily obtained chemicals. I am willing to bet that we have just seen the very beginning of designer drugs. We will see more drugs like MDMA, GHB, and meth in the future.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

People like Nebor are more concerned with fighting a war than winning a war. You're just wasting your time trying to reason with him.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Farmer probably spotted DEA, or realized that his covering vegetation was gone, so he had to bail.

Narcotics cause death, crime and mayhem directly and indirectly. Haven't you seen the commercials where the potheads run over the little kid in the drivethrough?

The illegality of narcotics cause more death, crime and mayhem than the narcotics themselves. And pot isn't even a narcotic.

I agree. If people would stop breaking narcotics laws, there would be a lot less death, crime and mayhem.

Until then, game on.

And the most effective way to achieve that is to repeal the narcotics laws.

Wow, that policy would work great for murder, rape, animal abuse, etc.

Sorry, call me old fashion, but I'm of the opinion that "crime" should actually have a victim.

Remember the children getting ran over by the pothead? That would happen a thousand times a day if marijuana were legal. Why do you want thousands of children to be run down every day? Think of the children.

😉

I know you think I'm kidding, but I'm a huge supporter of the war on drugs. I'd put a bullet in every drug dealer's head. They're killers.

I think you show symptoms of fetal alcohol syndrome, you know.... the legal narcotic.

Do us a favor and shut the hell up.

 

[Termagant]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
People like Nebor are more concerned with fighting a war than winning a war. You're just wasting your time trying to reason with him.

Very true, a lust for blood, death, and destruction, as well as pathetic greed for the coin which war always brings to those who claim they can wage it best.

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Darwin333
I find it amusing that anyone in their right mind would think that we are currently "winning" the war on drugs. Its easier for most high school kids to get a bag of weed than it is for them to get a pack of cigs or a six pack. Look at the amount of money we are spending on the war on drugs and tell me that you honestly think we have seen good results from it.

I also find the doomsayers quite amusing when it comes to legalizing marijuana. Why do you assume if you legalize it all of a sudden everyone will be doing it at all hours of the day? I heard one Congressman actually say that if we legalized pot your doctor would be taking a puff or two before he operated on you! Why isn't he scared that all the doctors are drinking a few beers or taking a few shots of whiskey before they operate right now?

You would also be truly surprised at how many successful professionals currently smoke pot in the comfort of their own homes and dangering no one.

One last point. Its been shown over and over again that you can't win the "war on drugs" by simply arresting all the dealers (or the users for that matter). Drugs are an extremely profitable business. You remove one dealer and another one will take his place in short order in a seemingly never ending cycle. The only true way to win the "war on drugs" is to remove the massive profit from selling them. There are two ways that I can see to do that. One is to legalize them and then regulating and taxing them. That will put an end to all of the violence that goes along with selling drugs on the street. The second way will NEVER even be considered because it is way to much Big Brother and an intrusion on peoples lives.

Until then, we will get exactly what we have now. We will be told of studies that show dips and spikes in drug use. We will continue to spend huge sums of money to find, prosecute and jail untold numbers of people a large number of which are peaceful and productive members of society. Their will be continuing violence on the streets from drug dealing and buying, I'll use an example from this thread. MORE DEAD KIDS EVERYDAY .

THe drug war is just getting warmed up. We're spending a lot of money killing Colombians. Not just DEA, but US military and Blackwater Mercenaries.

The fact is that interdiction simply isn't very effective. We only stop an estimated 10% of drugs from reaching market.

I haven't worked with DEA in some time, but they were getting very close to perfecting what amounted to "biological warfare" that was effective at targeting marijuana, coca plants and opium\poppy producing plants. The idea is to have a fast spreading, extremely contagious, entirely lethal contagion. The problem they were encountering was that some beaurocrats in Washington were afraid that this agent might get out of control and do serious damage to food crops in targeted areas.

So trust me, the drug war is just getting started. We've got all sorts of ideas other than interdictions. That $300 billion a year is going towards all sorts of interesting programs.

I'm sorry but all I can do is laugh at this. No law enforcement is going to stop $HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when it comes to drugs, I am amazed at the places I have seen them accessable.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian

Originally posted by: Nebor

Farmer probably spotted DEA, or realized that his covering vegetation was gone, so he had to bail.

Narcotics cause death, crime and mayhem directly and indirectly. Haven't you seen the commercials where the potheads run over the little kid in the drivethrough?

The illegality of narcotics cause more death, crime and mayhem than the narcotics themselves. And pot isn't even a narcotic.

I agree. If people would stop breaking narcotics laws, there would be a lot less death, crime and mayhem.

Until then, game on.

And the most effective way to achieve that is to repeal the narcotics laws.

Wow, that policy would work great for murder, rape, animal abuse, etc.

Sorry, call me old fashion, but I'm of the opinion that "crime" should actually have a victim.

Remember the children getting ran over by the pothead? That would happen a thousand times a day if marijuana were legal. Why do you want thousands of children to be run down every day? Think of the children.

😉

I know you think I'm kidding, but I'm a huge supporter of the war on drugs. I'd put a bullet in every drug dealer's head. They're killers.

I think you show symptoms of fetal alcohol syndrome, you know.... the legal narcotic.

Do us a favor and shut the hell up.

Yeah no fricking kidding.

It'd make sense for pot to be illegal if it was, you know, worse for you than alcohol or even cigarettes.

These "war on drugs" supporters are just more from the same blind faith faith crowd.

Apparently since I've enjoyed the ganja before, I'm going to smoke it while driving, and shoot people for no reason. God damn, you people need to get your heads out of your asses.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: tomywishbone
The war on drugs is over; the drugs won. I'm proud to say, I was on the winning team.😀

Party!:music: :beer: :moon:

[...] IE: If the drugs don't ruin your life directly, we will ruin your life if you get caught. :thumbsup:

Dude... what are you saying, exactly? Are you some government vigilante?

 

[jman19]

The WoD has been a massive waste of money for the government. I am all for more education on the subject, but when you consider the lengths the government has gone for such pathetic results, it is clear the strategy on fighting drug abuse and trafficking needs to be changed.