The Digital Millenium Copyright Act taken to a whole new level--ACTA

[Ns1]

Copyrights should be limited to 5 years. For networks once you air it on TV, the copyright should be null and void. Same for movies.

movies and tv would never be made since they would no longer be profitable.

...except for maybe reality TV and day soaps. Maybe TMZ and Extra too.

Do you live in a world where this shit is made for free?

Jerry Bruckheimer: I just spent 2 million on episode 7x04 of CSI. Now let's make some money! Joe, put that shit on the interwebz so everyone can download it!

Anyway, I know arguing about IP on a tech forum is a losing battle, so I'm out.

 

[Acanthus]

movies and tv would never be made since they would no longer be profitable.

...except for maybe reality TV and day soaps. Maybe TMZ and Extra too.

Do you live in a world where this shit is made for free?

Jerry Bruckheimer: I just spent 2 million on episode 7x04 of CSI. Now let's make some money! Joe, put that shit on the interwebz so everyone can download it!

Anyway, I know arguing about IP on a tech forum is a losing battle, so I'm out.

Hulu and Netflix were both fantastic business models for doing exactly that, but now we have douchebag companies like time warner imposing bandwidth caps and/or harassing high bandwidth users under the guise of MPAA violations.

Under this law, all you have to be is suspected.

Is using a lot of bandwidth suspicion?

Hosting a legal torrent?

etc?

Time warner shut me off the other day for "a complaint from the MPAA"... as it turns out they had no evidence at all and were just looking at how much bandwidth i had used for the month.

The bandwidth i consumed was hosting a number of LEGAL files. Crysis game mods and nwn2 content.

Under ACTA they could've come to my home with no warrant and seized all of my computers.

Fuck that, and anyone that supports a law that militant is anti-american.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Hulu and Netflix were both fantastic business models for doing exactly that, but now we have douchebag companies like time warner imposing bandwidth caps and/or harassing high bandwidth users under the guise of MPAA violations.

Under this law, all you have to be is suspected.

Is using a lot of bandwidth suspicion?

Hosting a legal torrent?

etc?

Time warner shut me off the other day for "a complaint from the MPAA"... as it turns out they had no evidence at all and were just looking at how much bandwidth i had used for the month.

The bandwidth i consumed was hosting a number of LEGAL files. Crysis game mods and nwn2 content.

Under ACTA they could've come to my home with no warrant and seized all of my computers.

Fuck that, and anyone that supports a law that militant is anti-american.

so this.

 

[Ns1]

Hulu and Netflix were both fantastic business models for doing exactly that, but now we have douchebag companies like time warner imposing bandwidth caps and/or harassing high bandwidth users under the guise of MPAA violations.

k last one

a. Once again, I do not agree with this law
b. Hulu/Netflix don't pay shit. If movies were funded by Hulu/Netflix, you'd get reality TV shot with canon digicams.

 

[ch33zw1z]

k last one

a. Once again, I do not agree with this law
b. Hulu/Netflix don't pay shit. If movies were funded by Hulu/Netflix, you'd get reality TV shot with canon digicams.

Post some numbers+references? I have no idea what Hulu/Netflix/any Internet video service pays, I'm intrigued. I doubt it's chump change by any stretch though, otherwise they wouldn't do it. I got a fever, and the only solution is more facts.

 

[IronWing]

When copyright goes back to 14/28 years I'll be open to discussing punishment for copyright violations. Until then, blow me.

This is really the heart of the matter. Copyright was designed to encourage productivity and creativity by protecting the creator's work for a fixed period. By extending copyright coverage to infinity, the law now has the opposite effect, stifling productivity and driving us away from a production based economy back toward a neo-feudal rent based society. And it blows. Why is Mickey still under copyright 35+ years after his creator died? With Mickey and Donald and the rest still under copyright, there is no incentive to create anything new. Fuck that rat indeed.

 

[hal2kilo]

not to mention Disney made its fortune by stealing others work and claiming it as theirs.

Interchangable with Microsoft.

 

[VinylxScratches]

http://www.truecrypt.org/

 

[Modelworks]

Simple solution to most of Americas problems. Stop giving money to support things you don't like. If you don't like the way the MPAA are behaving then stop paying them .

 

[Modelworks]

Post some numbers+references? I have no idea what Hulu/Netflix/any Internet video service pays, I'm intrigued. I doubt it's chump change by any stretch though, otherwise they wouldn't do it. I got a fever, and the only solution is more facts.

Netflix has a per view rate for most of the instant watching and of course has to buy a copy for every one they send through the mail.
Most of the older titles from that 80's 90's that are streamed and not very popular are on sliding scales where the more viewers the more it cost them. So some really bad 1 star movie from 1980 might cost them 1 cent if someone views it, but if 1000 people start watching it the rate jumps to 5 cents per view because the content is considered to be more valuable.

The newer content is done on a system where each view of the content is put into a formula with the number of sales of the DVD version. So if the studio does really good in sales of the dvd version that actually cost netflix less to show online. Netflix does not get blanket deals of xx amount of money for all movies from a studio. Each movie they add has its own rate fee attached for online streaming. They also have to maintain a ratio of people watching vs total subscribers because if viewers increase the studios want more money. For things like the starz movies they can only have so many viewers accessing those at any one time or they have to pay more. Starz sees it like you inviting 20 people to your house to watch the channel 24/7.

 

[Modelworks]

Interchangable with Microsoft.

MS and most companies are moving towards removing all content and IP from user access. MS in windows 8 is pushing the cloud concept really hard where you will not have MS office on your pc, but will login to a website and use it that way. They keep all the software on their end making it impossible to copy.

The mpaa/riaa are moving to the same things. They along with most major electronics makers and netflix and many other companies including microsoft formed a group last month that will make all the content you would buy in stores be kept on a server somewhere. Instead of buying a dvd you connect to the net and play back your purchase. They are promoting it as a way to enjoy your collection anywhere you go , but it really is about removing content from the users control.

 

[alphatarget1]

http://www.truecrypt.org/

If the Federal Government can come into your home without a warrant and seize property for investigation, who says they can't put a gun to your head and make your provide your password for TrueCrypt?

 

[alphatarget1]

MS and most companies are moving towards removing all content and IP from user access. MS in windows 8 is pushing the cloud concept really hard where you will not have MS office on your pc, but will login to a website and use it that way. They keep all the software on their end making it impossible to copy.

I'll be first to say that I don't think what you described is that big of a deal. Back when there was no VHS, DVD, etc, people just watched the movies in the theatres where the owner of the theatres leased (?) the movie and show it on a big screen. I'm sure some form of media will still be available, since bandwidth will still be lacking in many parts of the US...

There is also... Linux

 

[ch33zw1z]

Netflix has a per view rate for most of the instant watching and of course has to buy a copy for every one they send through the mail.
Most of the older titles from that 80's 90's that are streamed and not very popular are on sliding scales where the more viewers the more it cost them. So some really bad 1 star movie from 1980 might cost them 1 cent if someone views it, but if 1000 people start watching it the rate jumps to 5 cents per view because the content is considered to be more valuable.

The newer content is done on a system where each view of the content is put into a formula with the number of sales of the DVD version. So if the studio does really good in sales of the dvd version that actually cost netflix less to show online. Netflix does not get blanket deals of xx amount of money for all movies from a studio. Each movie they add has its own rate fee attached for online streaming. They also have to maintain a ratio of people watching vs total subscribers because if viewers increase the studios want more money. For things like the starz movies they can only have so many viewers accessing those at any one time or they have to pay more. Starz sees it like you inviting 20 people to your house to watch the channel 24/7.

Cool, thanks for the info! I would LOVE to see what kind of numbers they put up at the end of hte year though, just interested. Definitely not chump change.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

If the Federal Government can come into your home without a warrant and seize property for investigation, who says they can't put a gun to your head and make your provide your password for TrueCrypt?

It appears in U.S. v. Boucher a magistrate ruled that the government cannot force you to give up your password, however on appeal the government changed it's legal stance to require you to provide an unencrypted version of the data. Now, in this specific case, there were other files that were unencrypted so providing unencrypted content did not give the government any information they didn't have (in other words, they knew he had child porn on his laptop that was unencrypted just not how much).

So, the government cannot force you to give up the password. Now, if you have movie/music/etc files that are unencrypted (and they know which PC it's on already) then they can force you to provide an unencrypted version of the contents. So as it stands now, you need to to encrypt all your data and not let them know what PC it's on.