The Difference...

[Viper1j]

While Donny is using Thanksgiving to pick fights with the Supreme Court, the last REAL president is doing something real for people..

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/21/us/obama-thanksgiving-surprise-trnd/index.html

Volunteers at a Chicago food bank got a surprise treat for the holidays.
Former President Barack Obama paid an unannounced visit Tuesday to the Greater Chicago Food Depository, where he helped bag potatoes for Thanksgiving meals.
Wearing a Chicago White Sox hat, Obama arrived with bags of donated food and donned latex gloves to work side by side with volunteers at the nonprofit, which helps provide meals to more than 700 food pantries and shelters across Cook County, Illinois.
The former President and longtime Chicago resident came with staffers from the Obama Foundation, which seeks to improve communities across the US through leadership training and other educational efforts.

"Hey, how's it going?" he asked volunteers as he walked in. "This is a spiffy-looking spot right here."


"We believe no one should go hungry, especially this time of year, and that's why we're working to address the root causes of hunger in Chicago and Cook County," the food bank tweeted out Tuesday, along with a video of the surprise visit.
In the video, Obama encounters two little girls who are volunteering and tells them, "You guys are doing such a great job helping out. I'm really proud of you."

Obama still lives in Washington but was in Chicago to attend the Obama Foundation Summit, a gathering of community leaders and students.

Obama family serves Thanksgiving dinner to homeless and vets in 2015
A hallmark of Obama's presidency was combating hunger across the globe. In 2009, his administration pledged $3.5 billion over three years to a Feed the Future initiative, which works to promote agricultural knowledge and tools in areas with high food insecurity. In 2016, he signed the Global Food Security Act to bolster government efforts toward Feed the Future initiatives.

This was not the first time Obama has volunteered during the Thanksgiving holiday. He and his family spent the day before Thanksgiving in 2015 serving dinner to homeless people and veterans at Friendship Place Homeless Center in Washington.

Back then, Obama said it wasn't only "of the spirit of giving during this holiday season but our national obligation to make sure all those who serve and sacrifice for our country have a place to call home."

Makes me think of last Thanksgiving...

 

[Commodus]

It's a symbolic act (though one Obama is backing up with deeds), but still... I don't think it'd even occur to Trump to tackle hunger on a deeper level. And frankly, I wouldn't want to see what his solution would be.

 

[yllus]

Obama was maybe the most legit good dude to serve in the White House in 50 years. Though, hmm, I guess there is Carter.

 

[sactoking]

It's a symbolic act (though one Obama is backing up with deeds), but still... I don't think it'd even occur to Trump to tackle hunger on a deeper level. And frankly, I wouldn't want to see what his solution would be.

The easiest way to relieve hunger is to ignore the hungry and let them die; they won't be hungry any more.

The fastest way to relieve hunger is to round up all the hungry and execute them; they won't be hungry any more.

I'd guess these are options 1a and 1b.

 

[dank69]

I wonder if Paul Ryan helped with the dishes.

 

[UberNeuman]

I wonder if Paul Ryan helped with the dishes.

It ain't easy being that close to the poors to fake clean pots and pans. lol.

 

[Paratus]

The easiest way to relieve hunger is to ignore the hungry and let them die; they won't be hungry any more.

The fastest way to relieve hunger is to round up all the hungry and execute them; they won't be hungry any more.

I'd guess these are options 1a and 1b.

Ah yes the Ebenezer Scrooge Option to “Decrease the Surplus Population”.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Power at the level of the Presidency is weird and intense.

This guy signed off on drone strikes that killed children, backed a war in Yemen that is creating a brutal humanitarian disaster that is ironically creating massive food insecurity in the region... But also seems like a nice guy and a good father that really wants to help people and tackle problems.

The level of compartmentalization a modern president must be capable of to function must be nearly super human...

 

[Viper1j]

Power at the level of the Presidency is weird and intense.

This guy signed off on drone strikes that killed children, backed a war in Yemen that is creating a brutal humanitarian disaster that is ironically creating massive food insecurity in the region... But also seems like a nice guy and a good father that really wants to help people and tackle problems.

The level of compartmentalization a modern president must be capable of to function must be nearly super human...

Not really. One is business, the other is personal. With the exception of the current buffoon presently stealing the oxygen in the Oval Office, I believe every president at their core, was a decent human being. Daddy Bush was like a super strict father in some of his choices, Baby Bush kind of reminded me of the retarded kid that lives on the corner.

You'll let them play with your puppy, but you won't let him mow your lawn, because you know he can't be trusted around power tools. Clinton was a decent person, horny, but still decent. Reagan was everybody's dad. Carter was just a nice guy that lived across the street you could always get a spare sixpack from, or borrow his lawnmower when yours broke down.

In their off time I believe they were all decent good people, even though I didn't agree with a lot of their decisions when they were on the job.

The current guy? He cares nothing for anyone or anything. He has no time for anybody that he can't use or manipulate to his advantage. I find myself wondering sometimes, if he's even in possession of a human soul. Lift that bad rug, and you might find a 666 tattoo.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

This might deserve another thread but...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/22/politics/trump-troops-border-thanksgiving-teleconference/index.html

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump, in a Thanksgiving morning call with military members, made political arguments about the need for stronger border security and better trade deals, a stark departure from typical holiday greetings from the commander in chief.

Trump said "large numbers of people are forming at our border," and said, "in many cases, we have no idea who they are, and in many cases, they're not good people. They're bad people."

"We're not letting in anybody, essentially, because we want to be very, very careful," Trump said.

Traditionally this call is to thank members of the military for their service and send holiday wishes. Trump has to be Trump though.

 

[Paul98]

Hopefully we get a quality person as president again after Trump is gone

It's nice to see what things used to be like

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Some more difference for ya. From the mind of Trump when asked what he is thankful for on this day.....

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Not really. One is business, the other is personal. With the exception of the current buffoon presently stealing the oxygen in the Oval Office, I believe every president at their core, was a decent human being. Daddy Bush was like a super strict father in some of his choices, Baby Bush kind of reminded me of the retarded kid that lives on the corner.

You'll let them play with your puppy, but you won't let him mow your lawn, because you know he can't be trusted around power tools. Clinton was a decent person, horny, but still decent. Reagan was everybody's dad. Carter was just a nice guy that lived across the street you could always get a spare sixpack from, or borrow his lawnmower when yours broke down.

In their off time I believe they were all decent good people, even though I didn't agree with a lot of their decisions when they were on the job.

The current guy? He cares nothing for anyone or anything. He has no time for anybody that he can't use or manipulate to his advantage. I find myself wondering sometimes, if he's even in possession of a human soul. Lift that bad rug, and you might find a 666 tattoo.

- "one is business,the other is personal" so yeah, compartmentalization

I respectfully disagree on the rest of it. Your argument is so broad that it could apply to some of the worst leaders history has ever seen, who kept business and their personal lives separate.

Trump clealy loves at least some of his children, Stalin loved his daughter, Hitler loved his dog so on and so forth through history.

Each arguably did what they thought was the right thing by themselves and for the country. The book is closed on many of them: they were by almost any standard except the most extreme terrible human beings.

 

[BoomerD]

Some more difference for ya. From the mind of Trump when asked what he is thankful for on this day.....

He’s a legend in his own mind!

 

[interchange]

Power at the level of the Presidency is weird and intense.

This guy signed off on drone strikes that killed children, backed a war in Yemen that is creating a brutal humanitarian disaster that is ironically creating massive food insecurity in the region... But also seems like a nice guy and a good father that really wants to help people and tackle problems.

The level of compartmentalization a modern president must be capable of to function must be nearly super human...

As for evaluating Trump, it's clear that he does not desire to challenge his own beliefs and actions in the face of the suffering of others. More examples included refusing to hear the Khashoggi tape and to visit the internment of children at the border. Other individuals do not lead a life consistent with challenging themselves, but at least respect tradition, duty, public image, etc. enough to expose themselves to the world as photographed above. Although some do so only on, e.g. holidays or when in public view, it is not true that for all it is only a photo op. Some do their service diligently and extend it beyond their requirement even when no one is looking. But either way the choice to expose oneself to painful realities carries opportunity to learn something new from the experience. That I respect, and although I do not agree with the choice to show only for photo op, I would not seek to rid the behavior from public standard because the exposure can affect someone in a useful way. Sometimes engaging out of duty is more akin to paying a penance, which is a choice to avoid incorporating uncomfortable reality. In that case, the person seeking a photo op might be better for society than the person living a life of piety in order to keep out certain realities.

What are the character of all these politicians? I don't really know. But I know it's a shit ton better then the guy who runs away from service altogether and rages against those who might suggest he consider otherwise.

 

[Viper1j]

- "one is business,the other is personal" so yeah, compartmentalization

I respectfully disagree on the rest of it. Your argument is so broad that it could apply to some of the worst leaders history has ever seen, who kept business and their personal lives separate.

Trump clearly loves at least some of his children, .

Sorry, I must call on this.

Caring for anyone or anything not of direct benefit to him is simply not in his gene pool.

 

[Viper1j]

The video in the OP..

"Come Back, Barack" has won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Original Music and Lyrics!

Think anyone will ever write a song saying Come Back Donny?