The difference between liberals and conservatives/republicans...

[Scotteq]

In what way do political whores from Alaska differ from the rest?

The political whore from Alaska has nicer tits.

 

[Obsoleet]

Well the false paradigm of American left/right politics, the conservative ideal is economic freedom for corporations and people (in their mind corporations should be given the rights of a human being). The liberal ideal is less economic freedom for corporations and people (with the idea of lessening social ills, and the act of actually paying for things that everyone seems to want so badly like roads, schools, massive militaries and wars in the mideast).

I tend go go with the "if you want it, you must pay for it" side of the argument, and do not favor borrowing from China to support government spending. So I lean Left, which is sad kind of. No one should hold hypocritical views that say "spend a lot" (the Right), and then say "tax a little" (the Right).

 

[werepossum]

Well the false paradigm of American left/right politics, the conservative ideal is economic freedom for corporations and people (in their mind corporations should be given the rights of a human being). The liberal ideal is less economic freedom for corporations and people (with the idea of lessening social ills, and the act of actually paying for things that everyone seems to want so badly like roads, schools, massive militaries and wars in the mideast).

I tend go go with the "if you want it, you must pay for it" side of the argument, and do not favor borrowing from China to support government spending. So I lean Left, which is sad kind of. No one should hold hypocritical views that say "spend a lot" (the Right), and then say "tax a little" (the Right).

Considering that the left has held this White House since January 2009 and Congress since January 2007, I can think of about five trillion reasons to disagree that the left is the "if you want it, you must pay for it" side of the argument.

I don't disagree with the OP's point, but left and right also disagree in the very meaning of freedom. The right defines freedom as a lack of government interference with your life. The left defines freedom as a lack of unmet needs - i.e. that government provides all the basic necessities for you so that you are free to be whatever you wish to be. I used to not understand why left and right could not come together in the middle until I heard this being explicitly argued, then it makes more sense. And of course, both sides are currently in love with using the armed might of government to control your behavior.

 

[thraashman]

I think a better way to view right vs left requires you to look at both the social and fiscal sides. For example, the right wants less government fiscal control or regularion over the infrastructure but wants to give assistance to a siome degree for the economy. However the right also wants extensive government control over the personal choices and lifestyles of the individual while giving little to no assistance to the individual.

The left wants fairly extensive government control or regulation of the infrastructure and economy while giving assistance only if the alternative is disastrous (bailout, but no corporate welfare when bailout unnecessary). The left also wants very limited government control and intervension in the personal lives of people but wants to give personal assistance.

The only weird one on the personal life issue for both parties is gun control. Where the right normally wants to control individuals, they don't when it comes to guns. And the left would rather let individuals live and let live, but when it comes to guns they want regulation.

Also I think people on both sides who agree with the Constitution want O.J. to not be executed. In this case because he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. And while both sides largely agree he should have been found guilty, allowing the government to choose to punish someone regardless of the trial outcome is something no one wants.

 

[sandorski]

Really? That was your deep thought for the day?

Uh, ok. Congrats, I guess. :hmm:

This.

 

[BeauJangles]

Not all conservatives are the same, not all liberals are the same? most *sane* people are in the middle somewhere.

This.

When you put down the boxing gloves, it is surprising how much liberals and conservatives CAN agree on.

 

[sandorski]

OMG I cannot stop laughing at this!

Indeed. Even the 2 guys behind them seem affected by it.

 

[werepossum]

OMG I cannot stop laughing at this!

Agreed. The turtle named Atlas was pretty funny too.

 

[trenchfoot]

repubs are all about greed, and the dems are all about generosity, especially about being generous with things the repubs think is theirs.

repubs are all about selfishness, dems are all about sharing, especially with sharing things the repubs think is theirs.

repubs are all about corporate welfare, dems are all about social welfare.

dems are all about defending the homeland mostly from the homeland, repubs are all about defending the homeland from everywhere else, at a profit.

dems are all about keeping the environment green and healthy at the expense of the portfolio, repubs are all about keeping their portfolio's green and healthy at the expense of the environment.

dems are all about the middle class and the poor controlling themselves, the repubs are all about the rich and very rich controlling the middle class and the poor.

repubs are all about exploiting the world, dems are all about exploiting the repubs.

dems are all about caring for the have-nots by getting some, repubs are all about caring for the have-more's by getting it all.

repubs are all about big business controlling small government, dems are all about big government controlling big business.

dems are all about health for all even if you can't afford it, repubs are all about health for all but only if you can afford it.

repubs are all about exporting jobs and importing cheap labor for a profit, dems are all about keeping jobs and importing cheap products for a profit.

dems are all about skillfully using little sticks to be secure, repubs are all about brutishly using one big stick to be more than secure.

dems are all about creating small businesses to create more jobs, repubs are all about destroying small businesses to create more profit.


Never the twain shall meet.

 

[soulcougher73]

They do want OJ and any murderer who kills decent folk to walk free because they hate this country and ordinary people.

Puff, Puff, Pass dude.

 

[soulcougher73]

Spam

Nice copy/paste from a chain letter.

 

[trenchfoot]

Nice copy/paste from a chain letter.

Please show me that chain letter, or STFU.


edit - thought so...

edit#2 - yep, show'um a rolled up newspaper and.....lol

 

[Onceler]

The Right wants gays to stay in the closet while the left wants them to be in your face about it.

 

[shortylickens]

repubs are all about greed, and the dems are all about generosity, especially about being generous with things the repubs think is theirs.

repubs are all about selfishness, dems are all about sharing, especially with sharing things the repubs think is theirs.

repubs are all about corporate welfare, dems are all about social welfare.

dems are all about defending the homeland mostly from the homeland, repubs are all about defending the homeland from everywhere else, at a profit.

dems are all about keeping the environment green and healthy at the expense of the portfolio, repubs are all about keeping their portfolio's green and healthy at the expense of the environment.

dems are all about the middle class and the poor controlling themselves, the repubs are all about the rich and very rich controlling the middle class and the poor.

repubs are all about exploiting the world, dems are all about exploiting the repubs.

dems are all about caring for the have-nots by getting some, repubs are all about caring for the have-more's by getting it all.

repubs are all about big business controlling small government, dems are all about big government controlling big business.

dems are all about health for all even if you can't afford it, repubs are all about health for all but only if you can afford it.

repubs are all about exporting jobs and importing cheap labor for a profit, dems are all about keeping jobs and importing cheap products for a profit.

dems are all about skillfully using little sticks to be secure, repubs are all about brutishly using one big stick to be more than secure.

dems are all about creating small businesses to create more jobs, repubs are all about destroying small businesses to create more profit.


Never the twain shall meet.

Did you just get warped in from 1932?
Or do you never leave the house and believe everything you hear from the Democrat BS feeding devices?

 

[Painman]

Is this your Kindergarten thesis?

 

[trenchfoot]

"Is this your Kindergarten thesis?"

"Did you just get warped in from 1932?
Or do you never leave the house and believe everything you hear from the Democrat BS feeding devices?"



LOL, it took me all of five minutes to rattle that out off the top of my head, but thanks for acknowledging the "ginormous" effort I put into it.

I thought I'd get back at least one witty retort.....ah well, this forum just ain't what it used to be. LOL

You two are no fun at all.

But thanks for not denying any of it. Saves me the trouble of stating the obvious....again.

 

[Taejin]

Liberals are all about punishing corporations for their wrongdoings.
They are against punishing individuals with punishment-fits-the-crime for their wrongdoings. Let murderers like OJ walk free, etc.

Conservatives/Republicans are all about punishing individuals with punishment-fits-the-crime for their wrongdoings. Death to OJ.
They are against punishing corporations for their wrongdoings.



I mean, does this not cover, like, 90% of the difference between them? I came up with this falling asleep last night and I thought it was clever so I wanted to share.

Discuss.

what is it like being a walking, oversized caricature of an idiot possessed by the schizophrenic political mindset of the soulless blowhards you call master?

 

[Scotteq]

what is it like being a walking, oversized caricature of an idiot possessed by the schizophrenic political mindset of the soulless blowhards you call master?

..I would imagine it's pretty much exactly the same as being a walking, oversized caricature of an idiot possessed by the schizophrenic political mindset of the soulless blowhards of the other party which a bunch of our other posters happen to call master.

 

[shortylickens]

..I would imagine it's pretty much exactly the same as being a walking, oversized caricature of an idiot possessed by the schizophrenic political mindset of the soulless blowhards of the other party which a bunch of our other posters happen to call master.

Now I think I know why guys keep calling "straw man" in every thread.
Cuz its true.

 

[Scotteq]

Now I think I know why guys keep calling "straw man" in every thread.
Cuz its true.

Because, you know, "the other guys" don't have an exclusive. ()

 

[Obsoleet]

Considering that the left has held this White House since January 2009 and Congress since January 2007, I can think of about five trillion reasons to disagree that the left is the "if you want it, you must pay for it" side of the argument.

Not really, Democrats actually raise taxes. We have every reason to raise taxes with the increased government spending under Bush and Obama. Seems a little more genuine.

Unfortunately the spending is of such a scale that taxes alone (income, property, sales, you name it) can't afford the spending. But this wasn't started under Obama, it was really started under Reagan.

I'm not a Democrat, and not a fan of the parties, but from my point of view, they are a little more honest on not feigning tax cuts. Obama actually did a solid worthwhile middle class taxcut, Bush did a gimmick in the form of the rebate checks. While neither party is great, it's clear one is a bigger joke than the other.

 

[Obsoleet]

No comments on Republicans trying/lying about not raising taxes, when we need to do so? I don't really have any love for either party, I think a 2 party system in a nation of 300 million is a sham. But I do find, from my perspective, that the Democrats are the better of the two.. being a little more straight forward regarding taxes, and not hiding behind the flag and cross as much.