The difference between Dems and Repubs on 'Bush tax cuts'

[ElFenix]

What exactly are you arguing then? If it's more expensive for the producer to produce it here, it will be more expensive for the consumer to buy it here.

where the hell did i ever say that absolutely no it wouldn't cost the consumer more? i never did.

The equivalent New Balance running shoe does cost more than the Nike. I still buy it because it's a better shoe and I got stress fractures running in the only pair of Nike running shoes I've ever owned.

wait, you paid more for a better running shoe? shocking!

Guys...MOST New Balance shoes are Made in China...it's only a dwindling few that are still Made in the USA.

that's unfortunate

 

[CycloWizard]

where the hell did i ever say that absolutely no it wouldn't cost the consumer more? i never did.

I asked you what your argument was. You either don't know or won't tell. Either one makes you an idiot.

 

[ElFenix]

I asked you what your argument was.

that the united states would be better off with more jobs and either slightly reduced profits and/or slightly increased price levels. that's readily apparent from the very clear posts i've made. my argument certainly isn't the straw men that you keep setting up and then knocking down.

You either don't know or won't tell. Either one makes you an idiot.

why is everyone such an ass on this forum?

 

[CycloWizard]

that the united states would be better off with more jobs and either slightly reduced profits and/or slightly increased price levels. that's readily apparent from the very clear posts i've made. my argument certainly isn't the straw men that you keep setting up and then knocking down.
why is everyone such an ass on this forum?

Really? The US would be better off with more jobs? There are plenty of things that ought to be different, but that's not reality. Failing to acknowledge reality is a sign of insanity.

 

[Throckmorton]

Reality is that exchanging local jobs for slightly higher profits for some individuals is bad for our standard of living.

 

[CycloWizard]

Reality is that exchanging local jobs for slightly higher profits for some individuals is bad for our standard of living.

You're right - that's another facet of reality that you've hopefully accepted as inevitable. Insanity is thinking that you can manipulate the market (i.e. people) to make something else happen. That doesn't mean I like it, only that I can admit that I'm not John Henson working the muppets here.

 

[Darwin333]

You didn't use the word 'jealousy', for which I have a rule the person is an idiot, but you came too close, and are just as wrong.

Your post really shows the wrong, uninformed, ideological poison that has infected so many people who have no idea about wealth as their nation is stolen from them.

Your comments affect ranges in the middle class. They are not relevant to the ultra wealthy - in this post's graphic, the $1 million+ per year income group.

The issue isn't that not one person can move into that group - but that it's impossible for more than a very few, and that the group's interests can slash opportunity for others.

With all the reading you do, and the legnthy posts on the subject, you still don't get it. I really don't understand why because you seem to be willing to do the work.

Taxes have very very little to do with the wealth distribution in this country. I will give you the fact that they play a small part but it is very small. Ask yourself this, who specifically is gaining wealth in our current economy. Do your own homework because nothing I say will change your opinion. Then ask yourself, why has the government controlled completely by both Republicans AND Democrats literally taken money out of all of our pockets, and the pockets of our children, and given it straight to them? Oh, and this is completely unrelated to any "tax" issue.

Who do you think QE2 will benefit while the rest of us deal with higher costs of living that the .gov says are non-existent?

You are right, we are being looted in this country. Tax policy is not how they are looting us though. I find it bewildering that this isn't an issue that all sides can shake hands and agree on. Instead we continue to bicker about things that are impossible to change, inevitable, or unimportant while both parties sell us down the river.

Your progressives haven't been vocal in the least about the issues that are currently demolishing the rest of us, neither have their conservatives or damn near anyone in between. This includes you.

Why is that?

 

[Darwin333]

I'm not really knowledgeable about all this arcane monetary financial stuff, but aren't "THE FUCKING FEDERAL RESERVE" the people who do "FISCAL POLICY"?

They have been FUCKING UP, badly. It doesn't help that the over guy who most influences FISCAL POLICY was working for THE FUCKING FEDERAL RESERVE and basically got a raise for FUCKING SHIT UP.

Don't gloat, your party did just as bad when you guys held the reigns. Thats why we are likely really FUCKED.