The DC Madam has released her client lists.

[jonks]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Maybe they should legalize prostitution, then this wouldn't be a big deal.

Agreed. This still isn't a big deal for me personally.

I disagree. When you stand on a platform and preach morality and talk down to people, when you're engaging in the same activity, that makes you a hypocrite. If you preach drugs are evil, but you often use them recreationally, you are a hypocrite.

I'm not a proponent of criminalizing vices, it's counterproductive (remember prohibition?) But you don't get to run on a stance of Family Values and then point at liberals and dems and say how disgusting you find their behavior, while secretly emulating it.

I actually think the American public would enjoy some honesty from its politicians. Seems to be working for Ron Paul, and I don't agree with any of his ideas. What if we had a few sane politicians running, who campaigned behind what they actually stood for and believed in instead of what a focus group told them was popular to think that week?

 

[dennilfloss]

Originally posted by: yllus
Sheesh. Pay as you go cell phones, people.

For pay as you come prostitutes?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Maybe they should legalize prostitution, then this wouldn't be a big deal.

Agreed. This still isn't a big deal for me personally.

I disagree. When you stand on a platform and preach morality and talk down to people, when you're engaging in the same activity, that makes you a hypocrite. If you preach drugs are evil, but you often use them recreationally, you are a hypocrite.

I'm not a proponent of criminalizing vices, it's counterproductive (remember prohibition?) But you don't get to run on a stance of Family Values and then point at liberals and dems and say how disgusting you find their behavior, while secretly emulating it.

I actually think the American public would enjoy some honesty from its politicians. Seems to be working for Ron Paul, and I don't agree with any of his ideas. What if we had a few sane politicians running, who campaigned behind what they actually stood for and believed in instead of what a focus group told them was popular to think that week?

Yes, but I already despise politicians preaching morality and family values, so this news can't possibly make me think worse about them.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Maybe they should legalize prostitution, then this wouldn't be a big deal.

i agree it should be legalized. but it would still be a big deal. many of them are married.


NObody should resign over this. its not that big a deal.

Depends, does he rail against sexual immoralities like most republicans do? If he does, he should resign.

I think this qualifies as a yes:

Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) first got his start in Congress after replacing former Rep. Bob Livingston (R-LA), who ?abruptly resigned after disclosures of numerous affairs? in 1998. At the time, Vitter argued that an extramarital affair was grounds for resignation:

?I think Livingston?s stepping down makes a very powerful argument that Clinton should resign as well and move beyond this mess,? he said. [Atlanta Journal and Constitution, 12/20/98]

thinkprogress.org

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Maybe they should legalize prostitution, then this wouldn't be a big deal.

i agree it should be legalized. but it would still be a big deal. many of them are married.


NObody should resign over this. its not that big a deal.

Depends, does he rail against sexual immoralities like most republicans do? If he does, he should resign.

you mean there are Democrats who don't?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Maybe they should legalize prostitution, then this wouldn't be a big deal.

If only we could get a list of all the Congressmen who have smoked dope.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Maybe they should legalize prostitution, then this wouldn't be a big deal.

Agreed. This still isn't a big deal for me personally.

I disagree. When you stand on a platform and preach morality and talk down to people, when you're engaging in the same activity, that makes you a hypocrite. If you preach drugs are evil, but you often use them recreationally, you are a hypocrite.

I'm not a proponent of criminalizing vices, it's counterproductive (remember prohibition?) But you don't get to run on a stance of Family Values and then point at liberals and dems and say how disgusting you find their behavior, while secretly emulating it.

I actually think the American public would enjoy some honesty from its politicians. Seems to be working for Ron Paul, and I don't agree with any of his ideas. What if we had a few sane politicians running, who campaigned behind what they actually stood for and believed in instead of what a focus group told them was popular to think that week?

I really hope you're not going to start using that ultra-wide brush to paint each and every R who shows up on that list. Not every R or conservative runs on a "family values" platform.

What's more, there are plenty of Ds out there who have run on a family values platoform and there WILL be some of them on this list. I trust that if you are going to insist that this entire issue be viewd through partisan lenses that you'll include those hypocrites as well.

That said, how can any of you see this as a partisan issue? Are you going to keep score? "The Rs are in the lead... 106-103... We're better than you!" :roll:

This is just pure, political entertainment. It's crack for political junkies. This is one instance where party affilliation doesn't matter. If you had half a brain you'd realize this. Instead of wringing your hands about how many guys on your team are going to get caught up in this, just accept that the numbers will be high on both sides, kick back, crack a beer and enjoy the show.

 

[1EZduzit]

I wonder if this will cut back on the number of "Clinton did it too" posts in the Libby pardoned disscussions?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

I really hope you're not going to start using that ultra-wide brush to paint each and every R who shows up on that list. Not every R or conservative runs on a "family values" platform.

What's more, there are plenty of Ds out there who have run on a family values platoform and there WILL be some of them on this list. I trust that if you are going to insist that this entire issue be viewd through partisan lenses that you'll include those hypocrites as well.

That said, how can any of you see this as a partisan issue? Are you going to keep score? "The Rs are in the lead... 106-103... We're better than you!" :roll:

This is just pure, political entertainment. It's crack for political junkies. This is one instance where party affilliation doesn't matter. If you had half a brain you'd realize this. Instead of wringing your hands about how many guys on your team are going to get caught up in this, just accept that the numbers will be high on both sides, kick back, crack a beer and enjoy the show.

Bottom line, the vast majority of 'family values' voters vote for republicans, and so the issue is more for the republicans who violate the position they take.

That's the same reason it'd be a bigger story if it were found Al Gore secretly owned an especially polluting coal plant than if a republican did.

These 'family values' voters have changed the president and the dominant party in congress for the last 7 years, other than in 2006.

In many people's opinions, the 'family values' voters are being duped by corrupt, monied crooks who are hypocrites that use them, so stories like this are about their candidates.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: dennilfloss

Originally posted by: yllus
Sheesh. Pay as you go cell phones, people.

For pay as you come prostitutes?

*rimshot*

Or is that *rimjob*?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Bottom line, the vast majority of 'family values' voters vote for republicans, and so the issue is more for the republicans who violate the position they take.

There are also plenty of instances such as this where the "family values" demographic is very hypocritical in a "do as I say not as I do" sense...across the entire political spectrum, you can find instances of politicians and certain demographics preaching certain forms of behavior, and then behaving in a manner contrary to the lofty ethical standards they promote...for the "family values" contingent, this is especially problematic, but their eyes are too covered in wool to notice what is obvious to the rest of us...and one of the reasons why I am skeptical towards any faith based political initiatives.

That's the same reason it'd be a bigger story if it were found Al Gore secretly owned an especially polluting coal plant than if a republican did.

Well to be fair, the global warming boogey man has proven quite profitable to Gore and others, particularly in the carbon offset business...which is a ludicrous ponzi scheme that plays on the emotions surrounding the "act now" sense of urgency for global warming.

These 'family values' voters have changed the president and the dominant party in congress for the last 7 years, other than in 2006.

Yet few bother to question or understand the motives of this voter base, and what drives them to support particular candidates.

In many people's opinions, the 'family values' voters are being duped by corrupt, monied crooks who are hypocrites that use them, so stories like this are about their candidates.

Or perhaps these candidates are a reflection of the voter base that supports them? I know some of you take great pleasure in stories such as this because the "family values" platform does impose itself on a wide array of social issues.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

I disagree. When you stand on a platform and preach morality and talk down to people, when you're engaging in the same activity, that makes you a hypocrite. If you preach drugs are evil, but you often use them recreationally, you are a hypocrite.

Let's take the above paragraph and replace "drugs" with 'carbon emissions". Whaddya get?


Or even tax cuts. Trying to find hypocrisy in Washinton is so easy it's downright boring.

Fern

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: dennilfloss

Originally posted by: yllus
Sheesh. Pay as you go cell phones, people.

For pay as you come prostitutes?

Hehehehe

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: dennilfloss

Originally posted by: yllus
Sheesh. Pay as you go cell phones, people.

For pay as you come prostitutes?

Good one

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

I really hope you're not going to start using that ultra-wide brush to paint each and every R who shows up on that list. Not every R or conservative runs on a "family values" platform.

What's more, there are plenty of Ds out there who have run on a family values platoform and there WILL be some of them on this list. I trust that if you are going to insist that this entire issue be viewd through partisan lenses that you'll include those hypocrites as well.

That said, how can any of you see this as a partisan issue? Are you going to keep score? "The Rs are in the lead... 106-103... We're better than you!" :roll:

This is just pure, political entertainment. It's crack for political junkies. This is one instance where party affilliation doesn't matter. If you had half a brain you'd realize this. Instead of wringing your hands about how many guys on your team are going to get caught up in this, just accept that the numbers will be high on both sides, kick back, crack a beer and enjoy the show.

Bottom line, the vast majority of 'family values' voters vote for republicans, and so the issue is more for the republicans who violate the position they take.

That's the same reason it'd be a bigger story if it were found Al Gore secretly owned an especially polluting coal plant than if a republican did.

These 'family values' voters have changed the president and the dominant party in congress for the last 7 years, other than in 2006.

In many people's opinions, the 'family values' voters are being duped by corrupt, monied crooks who are hypocrites that use them, so stories like this are about their candidates.

LOL... Why is it that whenever I read one of your posts the words "party hack", "shill" and "fanboi" keep running through my mind?

So in your mind, so long as the specific candidate was never a propoenent of "family values," (which by itself is such a broad term that you can apply it to almost anything and anyone... how handy for you) he's less of a (??? hypocrite? less wrong? should be less embarrassed? should be ridiculed less?) than a guy who has at one time or another expressed his moral code? :laugh:

Nah... It's not that complicated. Some people are trapped by their party loyalties (you for instance) and will never see that sometimes party affilliation is meaningless. This could be so much fun if you just roll with it. Repeat after me... "Democrats are fallible..." "Sometimes it's not about what team you root for..." You can do it!

Free yourself! This is gonna be a great show! I've got a spare lawn chair and some extra beers in the cooler waiting for ya.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Free yourself! This is gonna be a great show! I've got a spare lawn chair and some extra beers in the cooler waiting for ya.

I'll bring the scotch!

When are the lefty shills going to learn that all congressional politicians are hypocritical scum, regardless of party affiliation?!?

this should be fun!

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

I really hope you're not going to start using that ultra-wide brush to paint each and every R who shows up on that list. Not every R or conservative runs on a "family values" platform.

What's more, there are plenty of Ds out there who have run on a family values platoform and there WILL be some of them on this list. I trust that if you are going to insist that this entire issue be viewd through partisan lenses that you'll include those hypocrites as well.

That said, how can any of you see this as a partisan issue? Are you going to keep score? "The Rs are in the lead... 106-103... We're better than you!" :roll:

This is just pure, political entertainment. It's crack for political junkies. This is one instance where party affilliation doesn't matter. If you had half a brain you'd realize this. Instead of wringing your hands about how many guys on your team are going to get caught up in this, just accept that the numbers will be high on both sides, kick back, crack a beer and enjoy the show.

Bottom line, the vast majority of 'family values' voters vote for republicans, and so the issue is more for the republicans who violate the position they take.

That's the same reason it'd be a bigger story if it were found Al Gore secretly owned an especially polluting coal plant than if a republican did.

These 'family values' voters have changed the president and the dominant party in congress for the last 7 years, other than in 2006.

In many people's opinions, the 'family values' voters are being duped by corrupt, monied crooks who are hypocrites that use them, so stories like this are about their candidates.

LOL... Why is it that whenever I read one of your posts the words "party hack", "shill" and "fanboi" keep running through my mind?

So in your mind, so long as the specific candidate was never a propoenent of "family values," (which by itself is such a broad term that you can apply it to almost anything and anyone... how handy for you) he's less of a (??? hypocrite? less wrong? should be less embarrassed? should be ridiculed less?) than a guy who has at one time or another expressed his moral code? :laugh:

Nah... It's not that complicated. Some people are trapped by their party loyalties (you for instance) and will never see that sometimes party affilliation is meaningless. This could be so much fun if you just roll with it. Repeat after me... "Democrats are fallible..." "Sometimes it's not about what team you root for..." You can do it!

Free yourself! This is gonna be a great show! I've got a spare lawn chair and some extra beers in the cooler waiting for ya.

Of course it matters. Why do you think people were outraged(falsley) about Al Gore's carbon footprint? What would have happened if it weren't Governer McGreavy, but Senator Tom Coburn who came out of the closet?

If Republican Senators campaigned on Family Values, Curch Values, the values coveted by the Moral Majority and Right Wing Conspiracists, then they need to take an extra punch for what they did. If a Democrat who didn't campain on family values did it, then they should get the appropriate fine,jail time, whatever is mandated by law.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

I really hope you're not going to start using that ultra-wide brush to paint each and every R who shows up on that list. Not every R or conservative runs on a "family values" platform.

What's more, there are plenty of Ds out there who have run on a family values platoform and there WILL be some of them on this list. I trust that if you are going to insist that this entire issue be viewd through partisan lenses that you'll include those hypocrites as well.

That said, how can any of you see this as a partisan issue? Are you going to keep score? "The Rs are in the lead... 106-103... We're better than you!" :roll:

This is just pure, political entertainment. It's crack for political junkies. This is one instance where party affilliation doesn't matter. If you had half a brain you'd realize this. Instead of wringing your hands about how many guys on your team are going to get caught up in this, just accept that the numbers will be high on both sides, kick back, crack a beer and enjoy the show.

Bottom line, the vast majority of 'family values' voters vote for republicans, and so the issue is more for the republicans who violate the position they take.

That's the same reason it'd be a bigger story if it were found Al Gore secretly owned an especially polluting coal plant than if a republican did.

These 'family values' voters have changed the president and the dominant party in congress for the last 7 years, other than in 2006.

In many people's opinions, the 'family values' voters are being duped by corrupt, monied crooks who are hypocrites that use them, so stories like this are about their candidates.

LOL... Why is it that whenever I read one of your posts the words "party hack", "shill" and "fanboi" keep running through my mind?

So in your mind, so long as the specific candidate was never a propoenent of "family values," (which by itself is such a broad term that you can apply it to almost anything and anyone... how handy for you) he's less of a (??? hypocrite? less wrong? should be less embarrassed? should be ridiculed less?) than a guy who has at one time or another expressed his moral code? :laugh:

Nah... It's not that complicated. Some people are trapped by their party loyalties (you for instance) and will never see that sometimes party affilliation is meaningless. This could be so much fun if you just roll with it. Repeat after me... "Democrats are fallible..." "Sometimes it's not about what team you root for..." You can do it!

Free yourself! This is gonna be a great show! I've got a spare lawn chair and some extra beers in the cooler waiting for ya.

Of course it matters. Why do you think people were outraged(falsley) about Al Gore's carbon footprint? What would have happened if it weren't Governer McGreavy, but Senator Tom Coburn who came out of the closet?

If Republican Senators campaigned on Family Values, Curch Values, the values coveted by the Moral Majority and Right Wing Conspiracists, then they need to take an extra punch for what they did. If a Democrat who didn't campain on family values did it, then they should get the appropriate fine,jail time, whatever is mandated by law.

I'll just chalk you up as another poor soul who is going to miss out on all the fun... :beer:

You're still welcome though! As soon as you figure it out feel free to join in. We'll keep the beer cold for ya!

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Free yourself! This is gonna be a great show! I've got a spare lawn chair and some extra beers in the cooler waiting for ya.

I'll bring the scotch!

When are the lefty shills going to learn that all congressional politicians are hypocritical scum, regardless of party affiliation?!?

this should be fun!

Chips & Pretezels are here - save room in the cooler for the dip

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Free yourself! This is gonna be a great show! I've got a spare lawn chair and some extra beers in the cooler waiting for ya.

I'll bring the scotch!

When are the lefty shills going to learn that all congressional politicians are hypocritical scum, regardless of party affiliation?!?

this should be fun!

Chips & Pretezels are here - save room in the cooler for the dip

So what's the score?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Hacp
If Republican Senators campaigned on Family Values, Church Values, the values coveted by the Moral Majority and Right Wing Conspiracists, then they need to take an extra punch for what they did. If a Democrat who didn't campaign on family values did it, then they should get the appropriate fine,jail time, whatever is mandated by law.

There are much fewer politicians that fall into the "Moral Majority and Right Wing Conspiracists" folder than you desire.

That is a paint brush used by the PACs and media to muddy up their opponenents.

Most politicians that are not from the urban areas know what their constituents like to hear (Dem, Repub and others, alike) and will state as such.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Someone took the time to update the Wiki about Vitter last night, just before the news release that he 'apologized'.

What a stereotypical sycophantic shill.

This ass had the audacity to make 'holier than thou' statements about Nagin, Blanco, Landrieu, and Jefferson in his blind support of the Bush Administration.

Wonder if he's got the guts to resign with dignity - or will he play for the sympathy of the Evangelicals.

The fool didn't even know that New Orleans, his home district, had been flooded - the day after the storm hit:
"In the metropolitan area in general, in the huge majority of areas, it's not rising at all. It's the same or it may be lowering slightly.
In some parts of New Orleans, because of the 17th Street breach, it may be rising and that seemed to be the case in parts of downtown.
I don't want to alarm everybody that, you know, New Orleans is filling up like a bowl. That's just not happening," said Vitter on August 30

Someone started a new thread on Vitter and this list.

As shown by many he sure talked the talk but certainly just like Ted Haggard doesn't walk it.

I hope his wife does in fact do as she said and take it with her like Loraine Bobbet.

This guy is a hell of a talker. His opponents have not stood a chance down there.

So easy for him to brainwash people with his smooth talking, one can only hope this puts him in a political doghouse forever but sadly I doubt that will happen because his name is not Clinton and no (D) after his name.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Free yourself! This is gonna be a great show! I've got a spare lawn chair and some extra beers in the cooler waiting for ya.

I'll bring the scotch!

When are the lefty shills going to learn that all congressional politicians are hypocritical scum, regardless of party affiliation?!?

this should be fun!

Chips & Pretezels are here - save room in the cooler for the dip

So what's the score?

1-0 but the game just started. Both sides are powerfully offensive, however, so it should be a high scoring game.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Free yourself! This is gonna be a great show! I've got a spare lawn chair and some extra beers in the cooler waiting for ya.

I'll bring the scotch!

When are the lefty shills going to learn that all congressional politicians are hypocritical scum, regardless of party affiliation?!?

this should be fun!

Chips & Pretezels are here - save room in the cooler for the dip

So what's the score?

1-0 but the game just started. Both sides are powerfully offensive, however, so it should be a high scoring game.

LOL, who's winning? Hey, maybe the people will win for once!! Wouldn't that be "special"??

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Free yourself! This is gonna be a great show! I've got a spare lawn chair and some extra beers in the cooler waiting for ya.

I'll bring the scotch!

When are the lefty shills going to learn that all congressional politicians are hypocritical scum, regardless of party affiliation?!?

this should be fun!

Chips & Pretezels are here - save room in the cooler for the dip

So what's the score?

1-0 but the game just started. Both sides are powerfully offensive, however, so it should be a high scoring game.

LOL, who's winning? Hey, maybe the people will win for once!! Wouldn't that be "special"??

I'm just hoping for an entertaining game. If we win so much the better. *hands 1EZ a :beer:*