The days of 1GB ram are over, sadly...

[Polish3d]

I built the PC below two months ago, and even then it was just becoming more common knowledge that there was a point to having 2gb. In fact, I was originally going to go w/ 2x512 because I thought it may not be worth it yet.

(Glad I didnt.) 🙂

 

[natto fire]

LOL, you think it's bad now. Wait until Windows Vista comes out. XP already has a completion coniption fit if you try to run it without a swap file. And yet fluxbox on aGentoo system runs without any swapping with a measly 512MB of RAM. Microsoft needs memory manufacturers and memory manufacturers need Microsoft. Sloppy code has not only been accepted, it has been fully embraced because of reduced cost for RAM chips. It seems like it has been barely a year since 1 GB was standard for a Windoze XP system. Now that is not acceptable to run the newest software.

Although I have upgraded to 1.5 GB of RAM, it really makes me wish that more devlopers would start considering openGL and the Linux solution. Swap files are great and all, but I hear RAM is faster than a HDD...
😛

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS

Originally posted by: hans030390

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
ram is relatively cheap these days so 2GB isn't absurdly expensive

yeah, close to $200...people that are 15 and have a crappy job dont make that quickly. lol.

so like, who feels like donating money to the "hans needs 2gb of ram but is too poor" cause?

eh?

Get a webcam..and you can work for it O_O

Incredibly funny post. Great one!

 

[imported_rod]

I can run BF2 at 1280x960, at medium settings on only 1GB RAM...

RoD

 

[SumYungGai]

I don't see why some people are defending the position that 1GB of memory is the same as it has been for a while. It's obvious that progress has pushed it so 2GB is now considered alot, whereas 1GB used to be a lot a couple years ago.

And really 2GB isn't that much (pricewise), compared to the other parts of a PC. It's a fundamental part, so $200 for something considered top of the line is actually pretty good.

Although, it would be nice if this progress would have picked up more quickly, because the amount of RAM for today's systems really is pretty low, and has caused memory swapping to be somewhat of a crutch.

 

[alimoalem]

is there anything wrong with playing on medium or medium-high settings? secondly, i'm planning on building a new computer in november and i've bought the ram already (1.5 gb, mismatched). am i going the wrong way? i don't find it necessary to play on max settings but medium-high would be nice. i'm getting the 3700+ SD and hopefully a DFI SLI motherboard.

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: TankGuys

Originally posted by: n7
TankGuys/Ben, i guess that came out a bit extreme, but really, it's true.

If one wants to play newer games @ max settings (assuming one has at least a 1280x960 monitor), 2 GB is pretty much necessary.
BF2, F.E.A.R., COD2, & almost certainly Q4...all the newer titles are sucking up RAM like crazy...

Hahah I was just teasing. No offense taken, and I'd agree with you in basic principle. I just figured I'd mess with you a bit because, well, why not? 🙂

A supplier messing around a customer? Shame on you 😛

Bet he doesnt retaliate tbh, who'd want to mess with your tank?

2Gb isnt necessary still. Its just starting to show it can give performance gains in some games. The same scenario happened with 1Gb vs. 512mb.

Id predict 2Gb will probably start filtering down the gaming ranks in abundance in Q1 of 2006. Those with Socket A holding off for Socket M2 may be a bit later 😛

 

[Geomagick]

After using 1GB for a long time I added an additional 2GB.

Although 1GB is enough for most uses I think that 2GB or even more is hugely desirable.

 

[YoshiSato]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
The key is to optimize your system, before throwing money at the problem.

Tell that that his Excellency Sir William Gates.

 

[alimoalem]

has anyone actually purchased this case to give first hand reviews on it and determine whether it's actually significantly better than $100 cases?

 

[bjc112]

I agree fully with the gaming part..

But come on now dude..

Firefox with 20 or so windows with pics+text

How often do you have that, PLUS

Dreamweaver
Thunderbird or OExpress
Windows Explorer, several windows
Excel document opened in Open Office for example
Stats checking software (custom program)
ICQ and several parrallel MSN chat windows
Couple of IE window
Calculator
The ATI Catalyst (They're better that Omegas)
Misc programs, firewalls, network processes, rtf files, etc...

Why IE windows, + Firefox?

Aside from gaming and some editing, 1GB is plenty..

 

[imported_g33k]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Aside from gaming and some editing, 1GB is plenty..

You should add *some gaming* to that post. I've played every new release that's worth playing. Aside from BF2, 1GB of RAM has been enough.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: g33k

Originally posted by: bjc112

Aside from gaming and some editing, 1GB is plenty..

You should add *some gaming* to that post. I've played every new release that's worth playing. Aside from BF2, 1GB of RAM has been enough.

True.. Really depends on the person.. I was merely getting at the point of, it looks like he opened everything on his desktop, just to take up memory...

20 FF windows + IE?

Very seldom, if ever.

 

[quakefiend420]

Originally posted by: alimoalem
has anyone actually purchased this case to give first hand reviews on it and determine whether it's actually significantly better than $100 cases?

i think you're lost...

the thread you want is thattaway ----->

😛

and back on topic, you can tell the difference running Star Wars Galaxies and Doom III on higher detail levels when going from 1GB to 1.5GB...and those games have both been out quite a bit longer than BF2...progress...soon 4GB will be the standard...and by that time DDR will have gone the way of PC133 🙂

 

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: quakefiend420

Originally posted by: alimoalem
has anyone actually purchased this case to give first hand reviews on it and determine whether it's actually significantly better than $100 cases?

i think you're lost...

the thread you want is thattaway ----->

😛

and back on topic, you can tell the difference running Star Wars Galaxies and Doom III on higher detail levels when going from 1GB to 1.5GB...and those games have both been out quite a bit longer than BF2...progress...soon 4GB will be the standard...and by that time DDR will have gone the way of PC133 🙂

 

[Azsen]

I play BF2 perfectly fine with 1GB and 1280x1024 with all settings on high except 'texture'.

1GB is still just fine. If the game needs more than 1GB then the game developers need to optimise it some more. No need to create bloatware games like BF2.

 

[quakefiend420]

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: quakefiend420

Originally posted by: alimoalem
has anyone actually purchased this case to give first hand reviews on it and determine whether it's actually significantly better than $100 cases?

i think you're lost...

the thread you want is thattaway ----->

😛

and back on topic, you can tell the difference running Star Wars Galaxies and Doom III on higher detail levels when going from 1GB to 1.5GB...and those games have both been out quite a bit longer than BF2...progress...soon 4GB will be the standard...and by that time DDR will have gone the way of PC133 🙂

😕

 

[bob4432]

can anybody else verify this information - Ram Usage based on Texture Quality

 

[coomar]

i use a gig with battlefield 2, i do have 2 extra gigs of bh5 lying here so i guess i could test out the differences, right now it will ocassionally stutter for a second, i think it has happened 3 or 4 times in the last 2 days, never in an important moment and i think its map dependent, it usually pretty close to when the map loads as well, is this what more ram fixes?

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: coomar
i use a gig with battlefield 2, i do have 2 extra gigs of bh5 lying here so i guess i could test out the differences, right now it will ocassionally stutter for a second, i think it has happened 3 or 4 times in the last 2 days, never in an important moment and i think its map dependent, it usually pretty close to when the map loads as well, is this what more ram fixes?

in theory, but the server you are on may be underpowered, even though you have a low ping. i had a lot of issues with zboard ranked servers so i don't use them anymore. and it wasn't just limited to my machine, i would be on teamspeak with a couple other buddies and we would all get hit at the same time, and we are located 50mi from each other, so we were not on the same connection from our place.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Azsen
I play BF2 perfectly fine with 1GB and 1280x1024 with all settings on high except 'texture'.

1GB is still just fine. If the game needs more than 1GB then the game developers need to optimise it some more. No need to create bloatware games like BF2.

Yeah it couldnt possibly be thousands of high resolution textures on a map needing to be cached.

Medium textures degrades the image quality, a lot.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Azsen
I play BF2 perfectly fine with 1GB and 1280x1024 with all settings on high except 'texture'.

1GB is still just fine. If the game needs more than 1GB then the game developers need to optimise it some more. No need to create bloatware games like BF2.

Yeah it couldnt possibly be thousands of high resolution textures on a map needing to be cached.

Medium textures degrades the image quality, a lot.

i can't really tell the difference...🙁

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: bob4432
here is the setup in BF2 i use which results in 1.2GB of ram used when the machine idles at about 240MB of ram.

You can shave another 260MB off just by renaming the video files so that they don't get loaded into memory when the game loads.

2GB really isn't necessary for BF2. It will help a bit if you are running with every setting on high, but you certainly will not notice a big difference.

 

[apoppin]

can't agree with the OP . . . generally 1GB is plenty for games

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: apoppin
can't agree with the OP . . . generally 1GB is plenty for games

qft