the day of the battleship is BACK!!!

destrekor

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I've been following the Navy's talk of railguns for awhile now. Glad to see they finally got the 10MJ fully operational and are moving up at a fast pace.

However, I doubt you'll be seeing battleships. At least, not the true Battleship classes of naval vessels. They will probably be on Destroyer-type classes if the powerplants can fit. I remember seeing a proposed design of a new destroyer-size class that had incorporated the railgun into design. Although the USN is actually already getting the first phases of getting this new class into play, but without the railgun. I imagine the design was fully intended to easily swap out the regular cannon with the new electromagnetic cannons.

And with those in the water, I very much doubt any other ship is going to try and take them on - especially if the regular cannon rounds of other ships can't destroy the railgun-carrying vessels from within due to lack of explosives stored onboard.

The Navy has been talking about using the new cannons for targeting enemy facilities and whatnot near waterways. The impact of one of those traveling at Mach5 would simply turn any structure into rubble I imagine.
So awesome. :)


:D
 

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ViRGE

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

:laugh:

Specifically, the ONR wants a 64-megajoule hypervelocity job, able to lob its projectiles 200 miles or more and have them arrive still going at Mach 5-plus.

This is SOOOO COOL. Just imagine when buildings start exploding - no rockets, no fire, just exploding from supersonic blocks of metal. That's when the enemy starts going, "WTF?"
How is this any different than artillery or cruise missiles though? Both allow ships to siege land with high accuracy and destructive power as-is.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

This is SOOOO COOL. Just imagine when buildings start exploding - no rockets, no fire, just exploding from supersonic blocks of metal. That's when the enemy starts going, "WTF?"
How is this any different than artillery or cruise missiles though? Both allow ships to siege land with high accuracy and destructive power as-is.

It's new!
 

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

:laugh:

Specifically, the ONR wants a 64-megajoule hypervelocity job, able to lob its projectiles 200 miles or more and have them arrive still going at Mach 5-plus.

This is SOOOO COOL. Just imagine when buildings start exploding - no rockets, no fire, just exploding from supersonic blocks of metal. That's when the enemy starts going, "WTF?"
yeah!

now imagine setting one up on a mobile platform. yeah!

then make sure that mobile platform has heavy armor and a fusion reactor. yeah!

then someone can create a fusion weapon. yeah!

we can call it a Hellbore. yeah!!!!

:D



 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

This is SOOOO COOL. Just imagine when buildings start exploding - no rockets, no fire, just exploding from supersonic blocks of metal. That's when the enemy starts going, "WTF?"
How is this any different than artillery or cruise missiles though? Both allow ships to siege land with high accuracy and destructive power as-is.

It's new!

they're effin railguns!
 

mozirry

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

:laugh:

Specifically, the ONR wants a 64-megajoule hypervelocity job, able to lob its projectiles 200 miles or more and have them arrive still going at Mach 5-plus.

This is SOOOO COOL. Just imagine when buildings start exploding - no rockets, no fire, just exploding from supersonic blocks of metal. That's when the enemy starts going, "WTF?"
How is this any different than artillery or cruise missiles though? Both allow ships to siege land with high accuracy and destructive power as-is.

I believe they are much more accurate, reliable, and cost effective compared to modern delivery systems.

Much more superior
 

sdifox

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wonder how they are going to generate the power. Bigass nuke plant?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: mozirry
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

:laugh:

Specifically, the ONR wants a 64-megajoule hypervelocity job, able to lob its projectiles 200 miles or more and have them arrive still going at Mach 5-plus.

This is SOOOO COOL. Just imagine when buildings start exploding - no rockets, no fire, just exploding from supersonic blocks of metal. That's when the enemy starts going, "WTF?"
How is this any different than artillery or cruise missiles though? Both allow ships to siege land with high accuracy and destructive power as-is.

I believe they are much more accurate, reliable, and cost effective compared to modern delivery systems.

Much more superior

more range and safety as well
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: mozirry
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

:laugh:

Specifically, the ONR wants a 64-megajoule hypervelocity job, able to lob its projectiles 200 miles or more and have them arrive still going at Mach 5-plus.

This is SOOOO COOL. Just imagine when buildings start exploding - no rockets, no fire, just exploding from supersonic blocks of metal. That's when the enemy starts going, "WTF?"
How is this any different than artillery or cruise missiles though? Both allow ships to siege land with high accuracy and destructive power as-is.

I believe they are much more accurate, reliable, and cost effective compared to modern delivery systems.

Much more superior

these can't be easily intercepted either. no fuel, no explosives, heavy and FAST. reaching the target at ~1700 m/s = pure hax.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

:laugh:

Specifically, the ONR wants a 64-megajoule hypervelocity job, able to lob its projectiles 200 miles or more and have them arrive still going at Mach 5-plus.

This is SOOOO COOL. Just imagine when buildings start exploding - no rockets, no fire, just exploding from supersonic blocks of metal. That's when the enemy starts going, "WTF?"
How is this any different than artillery or cruise missiles though? Both allow ships to siege land with high accuracy and destructive power as-is.

It's an artillery system with longer range, and much faster than a cruise missile. Cruise missiles are expensive, as someone has stated.
 

Bignate603

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The accuracy can allow pin point strikes. The lack of any explosives or complex electronics makes them cheap and once you fire there's no chance they can be intercepted or malfunction.

Also, as soon as it hits there's no dangerous chemicals or chance of any unexploded munitions. After it hits it just turns into a slug of metal.
 

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Originally posted by: mozirry
Get ready for large monster ships again, I"M SO EXCITED!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...ae_railgun_deal_inked/

the day of the battleship never was. dreadnought and all of its progeny were obsolete the moment the hull was laid down. they were too expensive to use in WWI and completely vulnerable to submarines. they were reduced to escorts and used as glorified cruisers in WWII.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: mozirry
Get ready for large monster ships again, I"M SO EXCITED!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...ae_railgun_deal_inked/

the day of the battleship never was. dreadnought and all of its progeny were obsolete the moment the hull was laid down. they were too expensive to use in WWI and completely vulnerable to submarines.

Battleships saw amazing use during WWII and later. I'm talking about for bombardment, not necessarily naval warfare, which wasn't entirely there purpose - too large to really be an effective in surface naval warfare - big target. Though useful for destroying carriers if able to get in close enough with the air planes distracted by other planes.