The Current - "Please Keep Me Interested While I Pull An All Nighter" thread

[GoldenGuppy]

<< As for altered world perception, yes, there is definately an initial change in perspective when these kinds of things occur in our lives. What I've found most important is to immediately 'reverse' these changes, by studying the root causes and circumstances which led to the event. For instance in the case of peoples generally low scores on standardized tests I immediately accepted as fact that everyone was inherently equal. With that in mind I set out to determine why I can score so well, when others could not. I attribute it to two primary factors: >>



Reversing a process is really difficult... you know why? It's because you won't know when you should or when you are in a state where you can reverse the "process" - besides, the main problem arises when people don't have the time to root the problem to its source... people who pull all nighters only have time to half-heartedly go through the material, then try their best to catch up on about 1-2 hours of sleep

Maybe you're just a master crammer some people have that attribute... the majority of the people just don't know how to study when it comes to cramming, however, if you're able to get superior results , then you can attribute 2 factors:

A - your know how to study
B - you know how to take tests effectively

Kudos Prince

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[GoldenGuppy]

NEW LINE OF THOUGHT: What the hell is biting me?!!? Something is eating at me... and its getting annoying, I'm starting to itch all over!!! ACK! I can't even see the damn critters! :| ARCH, I'm gonna go wait by the light and catch them in the act.. yes, that'll show them..

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[hoe4damoney]

Perhaps you should try some bug spray...

I find it goes down great with lemonade.

 

[GoldenGuppy]

<< Perhaps you should try some bug spray...

I find it goes down great with lemonade. >>



lol - hehe, I guess EAKERS is right isn't she H4DMoney? I really am YUMMY even to the bugs... and don't dare ask for pics of the bugs - you horny bastards!! Hehe, I can't even find them myself

I just threw on a bunch of that tiger balm stuff, I hope the smell drives them way, I smell quite... hmm.. spicy fresh right now - and I think it's actually working, haven't had a "bite" for a few minutes now

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[hoe4damoney]

Maybe you should stop describing your odour.

*shuddder*

 

[PrinceofWands]

I didn't mean that everyone had equal intelligence, only that everyone was overall 'equal'. For instance, maybe a little less book learning contributed to more street smarts, etc. My initial assumption was that I was not 'special' and therefore there had to be a logical reason why I scored higher than others...many of whom I considered 'wise' and went to for inspiration/advice.

Another thing which led to my conclusion was the math thing. On the math section I outscored people who had finished 4, or even 5 years of math classes...trig, calc, math analysis, etc. That shouldn't be possible. Math is the section where anyone who's had the classes SHOULD be able to score perfect or near perfect, unlike the verbal where it's entirely dependent on your exposure to the language, or understanding of language in general. For me to outscore others had to mean that either the test did not actually test math (as currently defined), or that what was taught was not useful for the test, or that there was a totally non-math related reason for the scores. I believe it was in fact a combination, as previously stated.


As for guilt, don't. Would you rather use your intelligence for no great cause, but be happy and content...or use your intelligence to create a weapon of mass destruction which terrorizes the entire world for generations? Personally I'd much rather smart people sit and play nintendo than form an evil overlord type corporation/dictatorship and abuse humanity with their abilities.

 

[hoe4damoney]

If you doubt that some people are less advantaged than others, talk to some learning disabled etc people.

They are people just like you or me, they just cant think at the same level.

And some people just have trouble with maths. I cant understand it but they just cant comprehend the concepts without a lot more effort.

And I'll always feel guilt when I think about others less fortunate than me in any way.

 

[PrinceofWands]

hmmm, I guess I just don't get the whole guilt concept to begin with. I know so many people who struggle with it.

What good does it do? What purpose does it serve?

 

[GoldenGuppy]

<< Another thing which led to my conclusion was the math thing. On the math section I outscored people who had finished 4, or even 5 years of math classes...trig, calc, math analysis, etc. That shouldn't be possible. Math is the section where anyone who's had the classes SHOULD be able to score perfect or near perfect, unlike the verbal where it's entirely dependent on your exposure to the language, or understanding of language in general. For me to outscore others had to mean that either the test did not actually test math (as currently defined), or that what was taught was not useful for the test, or that there was a totally non-math related reason for the scores. I believe it was in fact a combination, as previously stated. >>



The math section on the SAT is actually quite easy... despicably easy at some times... however it's the small errors that really throw the people off and drop their over score . The thing is, if you know how to approach the math portion, then there is a great possibilty of you scoring an 800. Process of eliminations, knowing which answers are probable and which are not always eliminate time off the clock time is required per problem - and the less time you spend on a problem, then more time you'll have to actually review your work and such

These are merely methods of test-taking... you don't need a great deal of mathematical studies to take the MATH portion of the SAT I (MATH on the SATII is a different matter all together).... reasons such as these are why the Princeton Review, Kaplan, among others flourish as successful SAT prep courses. It's not how advanced you are in math... or what level of calculus you're in... if you don't know how to take the math portion of the test, then you're not going to score as high as you'd want to. Test-taking skills really matter that much

The VERBAL section on the other hand.... wow - that's one tough cookie - I actually studied by reading the dictionary sure POE works at some points during the Verbal section, but overall it's all about diction buffness that prevails



<< As for guilt, don't. Would you rather use your intelligence for no great cause, but be happy and content...or use your intelligence to create a weapon of mass destruction which terrorizes the entire world for generations? Personally I'd much rather smart people sit and play nintendo than form an evil overlord type corporation/dictatorship and abuse humanity with their abilities.

>>



Remember my posts on EGOISM? Well, maybe you should go read it It'll cover most of what I would say about the matter that you have just brought to the table in a nutshell it just depends on what hte goal of this "smart" person is... he can be smart but misled (McVeigh) or he can be some other proportion of an Einstein... or anything of that nature. Read more about it

HERE


Well, it's 4 AM here in Los Angeles.... 4 hours from my Accounting class - I guess it's time for me to get started on my philosophy

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[hoe4damoney]

I think my guilt in this case may stem from the fact that I first learned I was gifted at about age 12 I then went through a long and painfull depressive episode. The two will probably always be linked in my mind.

But hey, what ya gonna do, eh?

 

[GoldenGuppy]

<< think my guilt in this case may stem from the fact that I first learned I was gifted at about age 12 I then went through a long and painfull depressive episode. The two will probably always be linked in my mind.
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Now was the depression that was linked afterwards a bi-product of your finding out that you were a gifted child? Did it create some form of remorse as to how you were/are different from the others that you associate w/ (peers)? Or was it an external factor that was linked to your "genius" that led you to perceive life in a different view, and thereby going into a state of depression because of it? By no means feel obligated to answer my questions, I'm just curious - if I sound like I'm imposing in any way whatsoever, lmk


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[hoe4damoney]

I really doubt that would have been a major contributing factor. Its hard for me to analyze my own condition but I think it had more to do with all the crack I freebased.

J/K

Ever since my depressive episode began I've never found it easy to cope with being better in anything than anyone else. Probably some deep trauma there somewhere.

Thanks for that GG, I've just managed to come to the blindingly obvious conclusion that this may be linked to my current slothful state.

You calling me dumb, ILL SHOW YOU DUMB!


*Does the elaine dance while patting a chihuana on the forehead*

Oh crap I forgot my medication again

 

[GoldenGuppy]

Hehe, good one! :|

Alas, all good things have to come to an end, and I do not wish to complete my ARISTOLE reading at this point in time... it's time for me to go to sleep get like an hour and a half worth of napping in before I get up to groom myself

Great party tonight guys - same time tomorrow [Eh, maybe, I mean, I can only go on for so long at this rate before I completely crash and burn] - I have 5 hours between my final lab tomorrow and my 2nd lab.. I'm sure I can find some rest time then

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[PrinceofWands]

I suffer a somewhat similar state. It was obvious that my interests/abilities were not going to allow me to fit in socially, so I accepted that long before even leaving elementary school. It is likewise true that people of 'gifted' status often lead a very isolated lonely life. I personally feel it more internal than external (although in my youth I would have sworn it was the other way around).

What I mean is, I used to think that I was outcast because 'others' could not accept me and what I could do, or at least didn't share my interests. As I've aged however I believe it's the opposite. I can't accept what others do and so I have isolated myself - emotionally and intellectually if not physically.

Refusal to accept, refusal to follow...perpetual questioning and quests for self-improvement...looking for deeper meaning - all these things isolate an individual form a world where the individual is considered merely a part of the whole. The less someone accepts, the fewer places they have to go to fit in.

 

[hoe4damoney]

I seem to remember reading in a book somewhere:

"Mornings are like corners, you have to power into them"

Its 9:43pm here and I think I'm going to sleep too.

 

[hoe4damoney]

I went through a phase where I thought It was everyone else too.

I suppose its hard to feel persecuted when you feel like everything is your fault though.

I dont think being introverted is a neccessary part of being gifted, its just that some societies have a "tall poppy" sydrome where achievers are compulsively "brought down to size."

The most painful thought I have ever experienced was when I realized I was doing it to myself too.

 

[GoldenGuppy]

Arck, stomach = queezy.... eyes = sore..... body = lanky... psyche = ruined!! Damn that! 1 hour of sleep per 28 hours isn't the way to go... at least I got all my work done - but nonetheless, how am I suppose to survive from now until 2 PM?

Any recommendations? Will the 3 hour nap that I plan on taking from 2-5 PM work!? :| Ack - sooo sleepy - I feel a headache forming!! NO! I .... must... make.... it to... Frappa.... CHINO... in.... cabinet.....


....

Mmmm lukewarm mocha...... hope this goes down well

WISH ME LUCK!

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[hoe4damoney]

I reccomend colonic irrigation.

I've never tried it but in your case it would seem beneficial.