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The Cultural Differences between the East and West

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Originally posted by: DigDug
I know, I know, we brought it on ourselves. It's becoming clear thanks to you helping me understand.
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That's surprising. The 5th grade patriots like you, I would think, would have shut their non-passport-having mouths a while ago after our 2-bit military embarrased itself in front of the world. Shut the fvck up before you shine more light on our sheer ignorance. Let me guess - you've never stepped outside the US, and another $5 says you've never left your own state.

like anyone cares what you or your parents make.
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Perhaps you are correct, and that is indeed part of the problem. The average American's fat stomach is full enough that there is no desire to question governmental action, the news, or anything else. America, and as much as you want to convince otherwise, is taught about the WHOLE GODDAMNED WORLD in a 20 minute segment on the O'Reilly factor. THAT'S the reality of this place.
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damn... in one post, you have managed to destroy what little credibility you had left. I suggest you come back in a couple years when you're older so that you can look back and laugh at your sheer immaturity and ignorance to the general populace in the United States.

Regarding your first statement... I'd like you to find a militiary more powerful than the "2-bit military" you described the United States as having. As for the second statement, you won't be hard pressed to find plenty of protests within the United States regarding government actions in Iraq, or all the democratic news sources all over the internet and News chans.

Coming from China, part of my family have the great fortune of experiencing government regulations on the internet, television, and radio to screen out anything that might oppose the motherland. Go to Pakistan with a Christian symbol on your shirt, and prepare to get shot. Thus, if you want to see people who aren't exposed to outside culture, try choosing a nation that doesn't have the most hetereogeneously mixed population in the world.
 
Originally posted by: DigDug
I know, I know, we brought it on ourselves. It's becoming clear thanks to you helping me understand.
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That's surprising. The 5th grade patriots like you, I would think, would have shut their non-passport-having mouths a while ago after our 2-bit military embarrased itself in front of the world. Shut the fvck up before you shine more light on our sheer ignorance. Let me guess - you've never stepped outside the US, and another $5 says you've never left your own state.

like anyone cares what you or your parents make.
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Perhaps you are correct, and that is indeed part of the problem. The average American's fat stomach is full enough that there is no desire to question governmental action, the news, or anything else. America, and as much as you want to convince otherwise, is taught about the WHOLE GODDAMNED WORLD in a 20 minute segment on the O'Reilly factor. THAT'S the reality of this place.
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wow, your true colors show. nice generalizations and show of arrogance there.
 
Do you want a fvcking medal or something? Or do just get off from telling everyone how "enlightened" you fancy yourself to be? Im sorry to shatter your arrogant little world, but there is nothing intelligent or remotley original about your generalizations and sterotypes of the heathenesque western culture you so clearly despise. All you have done is shown your ignorance and lack of intelligence by wrapping up the entire Western culture in a nice little nutshell to rationalize your skewed holier-than-thou ego trip. Congratulations on mirroring perfectly the arrogance of Western Culture you detest. So much for the "Higher Education" you seem so prowd of :roll:
 
"You can't possibly generalize the entire non-US world as people who want to blow up buildings!!!"

I said there is the opinion of other countries, that we brought this on ourselves. Amitab obviously feels the same way! This is just the kind of thing some of us "untraveled folks" need to learn.
 
Originally posted by: DigDug
To some degree that's because if you're in a poor economy you CAN'T move out of your parents' house until you're 60
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I'm making $140k Starting in september. My parents make twice that. What were you saying?
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Comical. You start your thread with a wild generalization, and then when I answer it in kind you use a single case to try and upset my statement.

Well, I know a guy from the East who was kicked out by his parents when he was 18.

What were you saying?

Plus you live in the US you freaking putz, not the East. If you were from your home country you'd not be making $140k.
Boys and Girls, welcome to "how to prove your opponent's point 101"

I can't decide whether that statement is more asinine, or more arrogant.
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Aagain it's a generalization, and this thread is impossible to continue on without that. Don't get your panties in a twist, Rio. Unlike your knee-jerk, my comment is based upon some facts. If you don't believe them feel free to look up living conditions and national per capita income in any number of countries.
it's irrelevant; i already debunked it
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No you didn't. deejayshakur. Like the OP I think a class in stat is in order. Have you thought that perhaps people are so close knit because, well hey, they HAVE to be? I'd probably have a closer relationship with my parents if, due to economic circumstance, I had to stay with them into my 30's. Do you know why people in India are more likely to live in the same house? It's in great part economic necessity. And for you to prove my point otherwise you'd have to show me that two generations living together will live in twice as big a house as one generation living alone, but they don't, because they don't have much money, so they live in much tighter confines, and are comfortable with it.

BTW, DigDug, if you're so resentful of the US I'd welcome you to leave. I'm an immigrant as well, and I'm here because I like it. Nobody is forcing us. You forgot one final difference between the East and West:

Numer of people who move from East to West >>>>>>>>>>> Number of people who move from West to East
 
Originally posted by: DigDug
I'm from the East. Here are things I feel that I've never felt in common with many of my Caucasian friends:

1. I can live at home till I'm 60. My parents would NEVER kick me out.
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I could have lived at home until I'm 60 also; however, my parents encouraged individuality and independence.
2. The thought of my parents charging me rent is UNFATHOMABLE.
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Same for mine but being raised a responsible person, as an adult paying rent would seem the responsible thing to do. I never did because I left home in my 20's, not in my 60's.
3. I was raised to value education so very much. My parents are both extremely educated.
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Same here.
5. I can eat almost any kind of food. Or at least try it, since I realize that someone's culture eats it.
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Same here.
6. I have much less difficulty relating to other cultures, no matter where they are from.
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Same here. In fact, I live in a different culture and have traveled extensively. One of the greatest things about the world are its different cultures.

and the most important difference, and one that sems to seperate me from my friends more and more as recent politics unfold...

7. am able to empathize, or at leas understand better, the sentiments of other countries around the world with respect to the US, because I have been exposed to many other cultures, and recognize the viability of difference, or at least non-American lifestyles. This goes ESPECIALLY for those of my friends who've never left the US. I can't even begin to understand their world view, or rather, they can't even begin to understand mine.
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Again, same here. I do understand what you mean and a lot of people from all countries fall into this category. It is not just Americans or westerners. People that grow up in their community, do not travel, and do not get much exposure to other cultures, are generally less tolerant of cultural differences. This is no surprise and not exclusive to westerners; it happens all over the world. If you understood other cultures as you claim to, you would understand this as well.
 
Originally posted by: DigDug
I'm from the East. Here are things I feel that I've never felt in common with many of my Caucasian friends:

1. I can live at home till I'm 60. My parents would NEVER kick me out.
2. The thought of my parents charging me rent is UNFATHOMABLE.
3. I was raised to value education so very much. My parents are both extremely educated.
5. I can eat almost any kind of food. Or at least try it, since I realize that someone's culture eats it.
6. I have much less difficulty relating to other cultures, no matter where they are from.

and the most important difference, and one that sems to seperate me from my friends more and more as recent politics unfold...

7. am able to empathize, or at leas understand better, the sentiments of other countries around the world with respect to the US, because I have been exposed to many other cultures, and recognize the viability of difference, or at least non-American lifestyles. This goes ESPECIALLY for those of my friends who've never left the US. I can't even begin to understand their world view, or rather, they can't even begin to understand mine.
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1. It's just that at a certain age you really would like some privacy and that usually kicks in before beeing thrown out.
2. Mine wouldn't either they would just up my duties untill I found it better to find my own 😀
3. Ditto
4.?????? (Well educated you said 😀)
5. Ditto
6. Ditto
7. "Western" does not include US only, Europe is part of the western world as well

Ahhhh generalizations so nice to put people into small boxes so they fit into a simplified view of the world 😛
 
I see you've gotten a less than enthusiastic response. What did you expect?

The entitled youth that populate this board have far more disposable income, unfounded self esteem, and specialized expertise in narrowly focused fields than they do wisdom, perspective or life experience.

You have stated you are different from the American norm. Duuuuuuude. Don't you know "different" is suspect, subversive and inherently inferior? Why, it goes without saying. Or thinking.
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I agree, a lot of Americans (intellectuals) have "wisdom, perspective or life experience" too - and are some of the kindest, most free-thinking people.

Unfortunately based on TV, pop culture, and the religious right, I'd have to say the norm are way too isolated from reality.
 
EDIT: In all truth, I meant this post to be something that encourages discussion. Many of the things I posted, I am well aware of being a part of many different cultures. What I was getting at more, was that I've never really seen a family that would charge kids rent and all that, in any country outside of this one. There's a certain disconnect I witness in some of my friends' households and its really something I've never found elsewhere. Granted, my experiences abroad are more limited, but I've spent enough time outside to realize that it ISN'T just a relative thing - there are indeed absolute differences, and there is this American behavior in families - I can't put my finger on it, but I'd like to say that its a result of having the TV and pop culture as the "religion" of the household - that I haven't seen elsewhere.

But admittedly, this was a trolling post, as I do like to piss off the "get the fvck out, you commie" crowd here whose fascism ranks up there with a NeoNazi. It's really fun to watch the anti-American labels fly when any minority suggests dissatisfaction with the place, but when "Americans" do, its not so quick to fly. The implication, being of course, that its not our country as much as it is theirs. 🙂

Anyhow, I'll end this stream-of-conciousness ramble. Toodles.
 
Originally posted by: DigDug
EDIT: In all truth, I meant this post to be something that encourages discussion. Many of the things I posted, I am well aware of being a part of many different cultures. What I was getting at more, was that I've never really seen a family that would charge kids rent and all that, in any country outside of this one. There's a certain disconnect I witness in some of my friends' households and its really something I've never found elsewhere. Granted, my experiences abroad are more limited, but I've spent enough time outside to realize that it ISN'T just a relative thing - there are indeed absolute differences, and there is this American behavior in families - I can't put my finger on it, but I'd like to say that its a result of having the TV and pop culture as the "religion" of the household - that I haven't seen elsewhere.

But admittedly, this was a trolling post, as I do like to piss off the "get the fvck out, you commie" crowd here whose fascism ranks up there with a NeoNazi. It's really fun to watch the anti-American labels fly when any minority suggests dissatisfaction with the place, but when "Americans" do, its not so quick to fly. The implication, being of course, that its not our country as much as it is theirs. 🙂

Anyhow, I'll end this stream-of-conciousness ramble. Toodles.
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Hmmmm I don't think anyone has called you a commie yet. Stupid maybe....but not a commie.

😉
 
Originally posted by: DigDug
EDIT: In all truth, I meant this post to be something that encourages discussion. Many of the things I posted, I am well aware of being a part of many different cultures. What I was getting at more, was that I've never really seen a family that would charge kids rent and all that, in any country outside of this one. There's a certain disconnect I witness in some of my friends' households and its really something I've never found elsewhere. Granted, my experiences abroad are more limited, but I've spent enough time outside to realize that it ISN'T just a relative thing - there are indeed absolute differences, and there is this American behavior in families - I can't put my finger on it, but I'd like to say that its a result of having the TV and pop culture as the "religion" of the household - that I haven't seen elsewhere.

But admittedly, this was a trolling post, as I do like to piss off the "get the fvck out, you commie" crowd here whose fascism ranks up there with a NeoNazi. It's really fun to watch the anti-American labels fly when any minority suggests dissatisfaction with the place, but when "Americans" do, its not so quick to fly. The implication, being of course, that its not our country as much as it is theirs. 🙂

Anyhow, I'll end this stream-of-conciousness ramble. Toodles.
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The problem with this threat is your have this my culture is better then yours attitude, which turns people off immediately.

Coming from Asian, I understand what you are talking about. But there is always two sides to a story. Yeah Asian parents will do everything for their kids, let them live with them, pay for their education so on and so forth. But there is a tendency for Asian parents to feel they own the children. Many parents feel they have a say in what kind of life you choose, who you wanna date/marry, what kind of job you get and where you live. To me, I'd rather have the freedom of not having my parents control me then having them provide everything for me.

And your comments on the food and understanding of other culture, that is pretty much true to all new immigrants. We come to this country, so we are the one who has to adjust. Having to adjust give you the ability to be flexible and to better understand why people have different views. It is not because one culture is superior then the other. If an American choose to go out of the country, meet different people, they can have the same flexibility, or the ability to empthazie too.
 
Don't worry about all these suckas, they're just mad cuz you're rakin in the dough while they're living pathetic lives as monkeys at some call center, just so they can live from paycheck to paycheck paying the rent on their little shack so they can call themselves "independent". They eat fast food and canned goods because that's all they can afford, and while you were studying through college they were the ones kicking back guzzling beer and thinking the world owes them something.
Do not let these peasants get to you. We are better than them.

However I hope you do find love in your life later on when your career is more established. That is the one thing these boors have that you don't, and that is what keeps them motivated to continue living their worthless lives. However, in time you will find your love and once you do there is no stopping you. The sky will be your limit.
You may have to work on those bewbies though. Unless you are a guy, in which case you're set.

Asian pryde 4 life
 
Here is your cookie.

People are basically the same whereever you go. They have the same fears, the same likes/dislikes, the same curiousness of their humanity. There are so many similarities just due to the fact that were all humans. If anything culture takes us away from our pure human roots. Culture instills difference, which people are taught not to be tolerant to.
You should approach every human the same. They should be treated as if you are looking in a mirror.

AmbitV: If you were white, you would be wearing a white pointy hood and having late-night cross bar-b-ques.
 
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