The Cost of ObamaCare

[theeedude]

Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: senseamp
I am sure government spending will grow, but it will be offset because uninsured will be covered instead of sticking everyone else with their unpaid ER bills.

Are you really that dense? Does money just grown on trees? We'll still be paying for them.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay for them when they go see a family physician rather than when they go to the ER.

You may be paying for both soon enough... and a whole lot more!

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: senseamp
I am sure government spending will grow, but it will be offset because uninsured will be covered instead of sticking everyone else with their unpaid ER bills.

Are you really that dense? Does money just grown on trees? We'll still be paying for them.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay for them when they go see a family physician rather than when they go to the ER.

Now, you'll get to do both! You'll pay for them to see a physician, who they'll ignore (see the example of smokers and the obese), and then when they end up in the hospital because they refuse to discontinue unhealthy lifestyle choices.

Yes, because only smokers and obese are uninsured...

I never said that - I'm merely suggesting it's a myth that granting the uninsured access to preventive care will result in any significant cost savings. ObamaCare will result in staggering new costs to the gov't, as the CBO has already said, and there's almost no evidence to the contrary.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

As Social Security heads toward insolvency, the case for that view gets stronger . . .

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

FDR prolonged the Great Depression.
While other countries quickly recovered from the world wide depression, it took the USA a lot longer to recover because of FDRs programs.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

That is the definition of "fucked this country."

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

That is the definition of "fucked this country."

Unless you're a liberal college idealist or receiving said entitlements.

 

[rudder]

In before the Feds lock,delete, and remove any trace of this thread and the OP.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: senseamp
I am sure government spending will grow, but it will be offset because uninsured will be covered instead of sticking everyone else with their unpaid ER bills.

Are you really that dense? Does money just grown on trees? We'll still be paying for them.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay for them when they go see a family physician rather than when they go to the ER.

Now, you'll get to do both! You'll pay for them to see a physician, who they'll ignore (see the example of smokers and the obese), and then when they end up in the hospital because they refuse to discontinue unhealthy lifestyle choices.

What about all the other people?

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: rudder
In before the Feds lock,delete, and remove any trace of this thread and the OP.

:laugh:

 

[FerrelGeek]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: senseamp
I am sure government spending will grow, but it will be offset because uninsured will be covered instead of sticking everyone else with their unpaid ER bills.

Are you really that dense? Does money just grown on trees? We'll still be paying for them.

Yes, he's really that dense.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Athena

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
How could it possibly increase the deficit or substantially increase taxes when it would result in a cheaper health system across the board!!!

The economy does not equal the federal deficit. No matter what Congress does or does not do with respect to health care, we are all sitting on a precipice. The current "uniquely American" health care financing model is bankrupting individuals, companies, and governments at all levels. The CBO estimates may or may not be correct about the effect of the various bills; they tell us nothing about the financial catastrophe that awaits usthe US economy overall if we don't make some fundamental changes.

Surely if such a catastrophe looms someone has crafted their own version of the chart in the link reflecting as much? It should be easy to simply lay them side by side and compare, no?

I mean who cares what the bipartisan CBO says when its projections are considered the GOLD STANDARD

It is no longer the gold standard as it contradicts what obama is telling us. I have reported them to the white house.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

That is the definition of "fucked this country."

Unless you're a liberal college idealist or receiving said entitlements.

Or unless you didn't live in the U.S. over the past 75 years during which time the U.S. went from runner-up to world superpower starting under FDR's watch.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

That is the definition of "fucked this country."

Unless you're a liberal college idealist or receiving said entitlements.

Or unless you didn't live in the U.S. over the past 75 years during which time the U.S. went from runner-up to world superpower starting under FDR's watch.

My dad was born during this time, so I partially attribute it to him. I still give most of the credit to FDR, though.

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: senseamp
I am sure government spending will grow, but it will be offset because uninsured will be covered instead of sticking everyone else with their unpaid ER bills.

Are you really that dense? Does money just grown on trees? We'll still be paying for them.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay for them when they go see a family physician rather than when they go to the ER.

Now, you'll get to do both! You'll pay for them to see a physician, who they'll ignore (see the example of smokers and the obese), and then when they end up in the hospital because they refuse to discontinue unhealthy lifestyle choices.

What about all the other people?

The healthy people?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: senseamp
I am sure government spending will grow, but it will be offset because uninsured will be covered instead of sticking everyone else with their unpaid ER bills.

Are you really that dense? Does money just grown on trees? We'll still be paying for them.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay for them when they go see a family physician rather than when they go to the ER.

Now, you'll get to do both! You'll pay for them to see a physician, who they'll ignore (see the example of smokers and the obese), and then when they end up in the hospital because they refuse to discontinue unhealthy lifestyle choices.

What about all the other people?

The healthy people?

You're right. Why do they need health insurance? They're healthy!

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

No, that is the very definition. How can you possibly defend the entitlement mentality many people have today?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

FDR prolonged the Great Depression.
While other countries quickly recovered from the world wide depression, it took the USA a lot longer to recover because of FDRs programs.

incorrect

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

No, that is the very definition. How can you possibly defend the entitlement mentality many people have today?

Ronald Reagan. Yup, they grew up under the results of the Reagan Revolution, which in part rejected outright Keynesian Economics. A big mistake being paid for now, but some never learn.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

No, that is the very definition. How can you possibly defend the entitlement mentality many people have today?

Ronald Reagan. Yup, they grew up under the results of the Reagan Revolution, which in part rejected outright Keynesian Economics. A big mistake being paid for now, but some never learn.

So you think the government SHOULD be giving out entitlements?

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

FDR prolonged the Great Depression.
While other countries quickly recovered from the world wide depression, it took the USA a lot longer to recover because of FDRs programs.

incorrect

wrong

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

No, that is the very definition. How can you possibly defend the entitlement mentality many people have today?

Ronald Reagan. Yup, they grew up under the results of the Reagan Revolution, which in part rejected outright Keynesian Economics. A big mistake being paid for now, but some never learn.

So you think the government SHOULD be giving out entitlements?

Uh yeah, he does.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp
Conservatives think FDR fucked this country too.

He did. He created the mindset government should be giving you entitlements.

That is opposite of "fucked this country."

No, that is the very definition. How can you possibly defend the entitlement mentality many people have today?

Ronald Reagan. Yup, they grew up under the results of the Reagan Revolution, which in part rejected outright Keynesian Economics. A big mistake being paid for now, but some never learn.

So you think the government SHOULD be giving out entitlements?

Uh yeah, he does.

I know he does, but I want to see him admit it.