The continuing freakout of the Rightwing over the ACA.

[Ausm]

I have to send this dude some cheese and crackers to go with his whine.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/appl...-hiring-freeze/story?id=17698491#.UKURA4eoNmM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black/applebees-obamacare-rant-_b_2129146.html

 

[Pens1566]

These stories are such a load of BS. The # of full time (per ACA) employees that will have to be covered is minimal. So much so, that if that added expense is such a detriment to their bottom line they're running their businesses horribly.

 

[soulcougher73]

"Somebody has to pay," said Apple-Metro Chairman Zane Tankel on Fox Business Network. The Applebee's chief added that it is unclear what Obamacare taxes, costs and fines will total, but said his restaurants will do whatever is necessary to stay in business.

I dont know what it will cost at all, but im going to freak out and make uneducated threats. LOL

 

[Pr0d1gy]

So sorry you can't be a cheap fuckwad with your employees just so you can another summer villa or open another offshore account Zane. Fucking loser, have some pride in your country and your workforce.

 

[Jaskalas]

It's quite simple:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk

'But to pay $5,000 per employee would cost us $175,000 per restaurant and unfortunately, most of our restaurants don't make $175,000 a year. I can't afford it.'

 

[Pens1566]

It's quite simple:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk

They don't have 35 FTEs. Bogus math.

 

[sactoking]

They don't have 35 FTEs. Bogus math.

Not necessarily. Per ACA §1513(c)(2)(E) you arrive at the number of full time employees by adding the number of full time employees to (the number of hours worked by all other employees divided by 120).

Let's say that a Denny's, Applebee's, or other restaurant always has 2 full-time employees on staff, a manager and assistant manager, and all other employees are not full-time. The threshold is now 33 FTEs (since we have 2 full-timers) and under the ACA calculation those employees need to collectively work 3,960 hours per month. At 30 days per month that's 132 hours per day.

What time does Denny's open, 6? What time do they close, 11? That's a 17 hours business day. At 132 worker hours per business day, they'd need an average staff of 7.75 people to hit that threshold.

What's a non-busy/non-slow staff loadout for a place like Denny's? 3-4 servers, 3-4 cooks, a busboy, a dishwasher, and a shift leader? That's 9-11 employees at "normal" load.

My assumptions may be off, they are assumptions after all, but they go to illustrate that the math is very possible.

 

[ShawnD1]

lol @ people who suck at running a business. If the cost of doing business goes up, try raising the prices. This is why coffee shops charge $5 for coffee; they can't stay open if they only charge $2 for coffee when that's the only thing they sell.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Not necessarily. Per ACA §1513(c)(2)(E) you arrive at the number of full time employees by adding the number of full time employees to (the number of hours worked by all other employees divided by 120).

Let's say that a Denny's, Applebee's, or other restaurant always has 2 full-time employees on staff, a manager and assistant manager, and all other employees are not full-time. The threshold is now 33 FTEs (since we have 2 full-timers) and under the ACA calculation those employees need to collectively work 3,960 hours per month. At 30 days per month that's 132 hours per day.

What time does Denny's open, 6? What time do they close, 11? That's a 17 hours business day. At 132 worker hours per business day, they'd need an average staff of 7.75 people to hit that threshold.

What's a non-busy/non-slow staff loadout for a place like Denny's? 3-4 servers, 3-4 cooks, a busboy, a dishwasher, and a shift leader? That's 9-11 employees at "normal" load.

My assumptions may be off, they are assumptions after all, but they go to illustrate that the math is very possible.

I'll make a prediction. If businesses have an Obamacare surcharge listed then there will be an effort to forbid it and many ACA supporters will back suppression of that information.

 

[Ausm]

I'll make a prediction. If businesses have an Obamacare surcharge listed then there will be an effort to forbid it and many ACA supporters will back suppression of that information.

Why?

 

[Fern]

-snip-
What time does Denny's open, 6? What time do they close, 11? That's a 17 hours business day.

Denny's is open 24/7 (at least every one I've seen)

And thanks for math/illustration.

Fern

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Why?

It's not universal, but some already blame others for whats a natural consequence. It was a state, not federal issue, but about a decade ago pharmacies got hit with a tax right off the bottom line, a medicaid tax which applied to all prescriptions no matter who paid. Not only could the pharmacies not say it was a tax, but they couldn't pass the charge along. I'm not sure the same mentality wouldn't be supported. I freely admit to speculation. Lets see what happens over the next few years. Edit- was in MA

 

[michal1980]

Why?

your left wing goverment in an effort to make airplane prices more 'honest' forced airlines to display total fares.


outcome - no one sees that roughly 1/3rd of the ticket price is now taxes.