"It is known that there is an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are simply the products of a deranged imagination."
The Concept Of Infinity: Part II
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Why must there be a finite number of inhabited worlds? Look at it this way, the number of inhabited worlds is percentage of the infinite number of worlds. You cannot just assume that as the denominator approaches infinity, so will the average population of the planets in the universe be zero. The percentage may approach 0, but never will.
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Since there's an infinite amount of worlds, shouldn't there be an infinite number of possibly habited or habitable worlds? Since there is infinite space for infinite planets, the number of habitable and non habitable worlds are infinite no?
EDIT: speeeling
EDIT: speeeling
Infinite space = infinite planets = infinite population
population / planets = infinite / infinite = 1? haha
population / planets = infinite / infinite = 1? haha
only zero compared to what it could be. you must alos take into consideration the space needed for each planet. You cannot stack a bunch of balles without having space in between them. unless your universe is cubed and freefall gravity (spacial gravity) produced cubic planets. Thus, there can never be infinate planets in an infinate universe unless said universe has properites not of our own universe. As for words, the construct of words has a pattern. We cannot take letters and characters from random cultures and integrate them into a unified word. We take english characters and pattern them to create an english sound. Following this, we must also take into consideration multiple vowels cannot be put next to another or a whole word made of constanents (spelling?). Regardless of whether we follow human laws, to have infinate, you need the summation of all the characters in the known languages = x, where x!(all the possible patterns) = infinity. so far, there are not enough characters known to exceed our knowledge of the number system, but regardless. infinity is not defined within all real numbers so you need X to be a non-real number in order for X!=infinity. else, if X is a real number, X!=real number (i.e. not infinity). this cannot happen because if X were unreal, it could not be the summation of all characters(each character effectively being a real number).
proof: to be unreal, undefined in all real numbers, is to be infinate. but if X is infinate (by definition), and infinate!=infinate, then infinate is null. therefore, you can never have infinate words. the comparison cannot be made
*WHEW*!!!!!!! OMG, that came off two guinnesses and a couple MaiTais.... love theoretical math
proof: to be unreal, undefined in all real numbers, is to be infinate. but if X is infinate (by definition), and infinate!=infinate, then infinate is null. therefore, you can never have infinate words. the comparison cannot be made
*WHEW*!!!!!!! OMG, that came off two guinnesses and a couple MaiTais.... love theoretical math
not trying to be rude... this is the dumbest thing i heard and sad someone finds it worthy enough to post.. go read some physics journals at ur school.. it will blow u away..
Originally posted by: everman
Ok, don't believe me? Heres a poorly put together example:
Going from what the OP said, logically there could be an infinite number of worlds in the universe. Ok, I make the claim, but can I prove it? Well, unless I am around for infinity, I can't prove anything. How can I know for sure that after I claim there is an infinite number of worlds in the universe, that I won't be proven wrong afterwords? What I'm saying, is that you can't ever make the claim that something is inifinite, since it could change right after you make the claim. Instead we have to assume that it will follow this pattern even after we make the claim.
While we're on the subject of random stuff, heres one for you: Life is theoretical.
There isn't an infinite amount of matter though, so there can't be an infinite number of worlds.
Space isn't infinite, matter isn't infinite, energy isn't infinite - the Laws of Thermodynamics clearly imply all three of these results. Thus, the discussion is moot since space is finite.
there is a finite number of matter we can measure..who knows what's outside our measurement capabilities...so in our scope it is infinite until someone says that's where the universe ends...or wraps around itself...(err before we thought earth was flat) who knows.....NOT I
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