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The concept of Infinity.... no beginning nor no end

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The Pentium Guy

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I realize this should be in Highly Technical but I think you ATOTers can handle this...
Doesn't it seriously befuddle you to think about infinity, especailly in the respect of time?

I mean, seriously.....no end sounds incredibly scary. No beginning is even weirder.... I mean, there HAS to be a beginning....this is SO confusing!
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Thinking about a universe where infinity is reachable is even more trippy.
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For me too.

Have a *cigarette* and lay at the stars sometimes thinking about it, it is really difficult to comprehend.
 
Originally posted by: Sluggo
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Thinking about a universe where infinity is reachable is even more trippy.
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For me too.

Have a *cigarette* and lay at the stars sometimes thinking about it, it is really difficult to comprehend.
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Heh. Not old enough to smoke, nor do I want to inhale random fumes in my lungs to set me up for lung disease 😉. But that's a different discussion.

No end of time, space, no end of YOU <-- THIS is the scary part. Your body dies but your soul lives on. WTF are you gonna do? Forever and forever. WTF are you gonna do after a million years. WTF are you gonna do after 10 billion years. WTF are you gonna do after 1 million billion years. WTF is the point? WTF. This is confusing!

It's super scary. I've been reading up on science documents and stuff saying that eventually the universe will expand to a point that it'll go too large and IMMEDIATELY it'll start compressing upon itself, and keep on compressing...and on.... and on.... and then the big bang will occur again.

Who knows? This might be the 999th big bang. Holy crap! This is SCARY!
 
Imagine a ball of gold the size of the moon. Now imagine that once every thousand years, a dove flys by that ball of gold and oh-so-lightly brushes it with it's wings. When that ball of gold is ground into fine dust, it will only be the beginning of eternity.
 
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Imagine a ball of gold the size of the moon. Now imagine that once every thousand years, a dove flys by that ball of gold and oh-so-lightly brushes it with it's wings. When that ball of gold is ground into fine dust, it will only be the beginning of eternity.
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I want some of the shrooms you have. 😉
 
Your response makes me cry 😱. Try this scary thing:
Watch your damn clock. Just watch it for a minute straight. 60 seconds. That's a bitch!
Now imagine waiting like that for a BILLIONBILLIONBILLIONINFINITY years! HOLY. FREAKING. CRAP!
 
Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
I realize this should be in Highly Technical but I think you ATOTers can handle this...
Doesn't it seriously befuddle you to think about infinity, especailly in the respect of time?

I mean, seriously.....no end sounds incredibly scary. No beginning is even weirder.... I mean, there HAS to be a beginning....this is SO confusing!
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The natural numbers are defined as {1,2,3,4....} The set is infinite, but it has a beginning. The weird thing is that it has the same cardinality as the integers, ie, {...-1,0,1,...}. One has a beginning and no end. The other has no beginning or end. But technically they are both the same size.

The real number line is also infinite, but is actually "bigger" than the infinite of the set of integers. Now does that blow your mind?
 
you should like this

If you take the graph of 1/x and revolve it around the x axis, the solid that it makes with a base at any X>1 and the tip extending into infinity has a finite volume and an infinite surface area. You could fill it with water but never paint it
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If you take the graph of 1/x and revolve it around the x axis, the solid that it makes with a base at any X>1 and the tip extending into infinity has a finite volume and an infinite surface area. You could fill it with water but never paint it
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Wow.... I'll have to try graphing this with my DirectX skillz!
 
I posted this in a couple of other threads..... but ....... check it out anyways:


It's funny how these threads:
"Topic Title: Since the unverse is expanding, there is no such thing as infinity"
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1642777&enterthread=y
"Topic Title: Time is not infinite."
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1642790&enterthread=y

Spewed from my original thread:
"Topic Title: The concept of Infinity.... no beginning nor no end"
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1642760&enterthread=y

All are parodies of my thread. My thread is a parody of a thread talking about a parody of a parody OF a parody (no kidding)!
"Topic Title: Parody: Parody: Is Anandtech down?"
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=38&threadid=1642539

Heh. ATOT pwns all!
 
Originally posted by: Sluggo
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Thinking about a universe where infinity is reachable is even more trippy.
Click to expand...


For me too.

Have a *cigarette* and lay at the stars sometimes thinking about it, it is really difficult to comprehend.
Click to expand...

What if C-A-T... really spelled dog?
 
You are on a sphere. You have all the time there is, and can run around it. When will you run out of path? If you run the other way, where are you forced to stop because you cannot go back further?

A spherical path NOT being infinite is harder to visualize than one which is.
 
we are finite creatures, and therefore cannot comprehend infinite concepts. after realizing that, i just think of infinity as really really big.
 
Hurray! I can post some intellectual conversations for a change. I enjoy topics like these even though they repeat every few months. Who cares I'll repeat myself.

What occupies my mind every night is the probability that the universe is boundless. It would have to be. Afterall, if it had borders like a box then what's surrounding the box. The hand of god?
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
you should like this

If you take the graph of 1/x and revolve it around the x axis, the solid that it makes with a base at any X>1 and the tip extending into infinity has a finite volume and an infinite surface area. You could fill it with water but never paint it
Click to expand...
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Very good. It's called Gabriel's horn.

Other cool things:

Mobius Strip: a surface with only one side

Klein Bottle: a solid with no inside or outside
 
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