The Compassion of Dr. Paul.

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Slick5150

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Maybe you could post a few more fluff pieces written by his campaign. They're really so convincing.
 
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Compassionate, racist and homophobic all at once.

A true renaissance man.
 
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drebo

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karmypolitics said:
Paul is anti-big government except for abortion rights. odd.
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Are you stupid?

His position on abortion is that it should be left up to the states. That's the very definition of "anti-big government."

By the way, that was a rhetorical question. You don't need to answer, because we all already know the answer.
 
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fskimospy

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drebo said:
Are you stupid?

His position on abortion is that it should be left up to the states. That's the very definition of "anti-big government."

By the way, that was a rhetorical question. You don't need to answer, because we all already know the answer.
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No it isn't. That's not an anti big government position, it's just anti federal government. Ron Paul has introduced legislation to make the definition of life to begin at conception, making all abortions the legal equivalent of murder. This is using the coercive power of government to control women's reproductive decisions, a very big government position.

EDIT: He also introduced legislation attempting to ban federal courts from hearing challenges to abortion restriction laws as well, removing a path for citizens to have redress against this expansion of government power. (it also would have prevented the courts from ruling on gay marriage, etc, as he's a pretty big homophobe as well)
 
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RabidMongoose

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karmypolitics said:
Paul is anti-big government except for abortion rights. odd.
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Don't forget everything else. He's only anti-federal government. He is perfectly fine for the biggest state governments imaginable, ones that can run right over individuals and ones that can follow a racist Ron Paul ideology that can torment people, particularly minorities of all types that Ron Paul despises.
 
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NoStateofMind

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eskimospy said:
No it isn't. That's not an anti big government position, it's just anti federal government. Ron Paul has introduced legislation to make the definition of life to begin at conception, making all abortions the legal equivalent of murder. This is using the coercive power of government to control women's reproductive decisions, a very big government position.

EDIT: He also introduced legislation attempting to ban federal courts from hearing challenges to abortion restriction laws as well, removing a path for citizens to have redress against this expansion of government power. (it also would have prevented the courts from ruling on gay marriage, etc, as he's a pretty big homophobe as well)
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wow you don't know Paul's positions at all and this post proves it. I'll quote this for posterity. lol
 
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fskimospy

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PC Surgeon said:
wow you don't know Paul's positions at all and this post proves it. I'll quote this for posterity. lol
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My post exactly describes his positions, as he has personally introduced legislation to do every single thing I mentioned. Maybe you aren't aware of all the truly horrible opinions our good friend Ron holds.
 
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RabidMongoose

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eskimospy said:
My post exactly describes his positions, as he has personally introduced legislation to do every single thing I mentioned. Maybe you aren't aware of all the truly horrible opinions our good friend Ron holds.
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What a surprise...he's just another Ron Paul fanatic who has no idea about Ron Paul. Seems like that describes about 99.9% of all Ron Paul supporters.
 
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NoStateofMind

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eskimospy said:
My post exactly describes his positions, as he has personally introduced legislation to do every single thing I mentioned. Maybe you aren't aware of all the truly horrible opinions our good friend Ron holds.
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one would have to be an absolute fool to think he's a "homophobe" and that thats the reason behind his vote. It's sad people don't research and just assume or regurgitate BS they heard on TV. To help you the Constitution does not give the government power to decide who can marry who and thats the reason his vote was no.
 
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drebo

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eskimospy said:
No it isn't. That's not an anti big government position, it's just anti federal government. Ron Paul has introduced legislation to make the definition of life to begin at conception, making all abortions the legal equivalent of murder. This is using the coercive power of government to control women's reproductive decisions, a very big government position.

EDIT: He also introduced legislation attempting to ban federal courts from hearing challenges to abortion restriction laws as well, removing a path for citizens to have redress against this expansion of government power. (it also would have prevented the courts from ruling on gay marriage, etc, as he's a pretty big homophobe as well)
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You're just as much of an idiot as the other guy, as every one of your previous posts has proved.

This debate is about what is right at the federal level. States are allowed to be chartered however the fuck they want, and that's what Ron Paul stands for. He's not advocating big or small government for states, only that the states be allowed to choose that for themselves and that the federal government stays the fuck out of it.

Yet, you'll spin that to say that he's a nanny-statist just because he wants the nanny-stating done at the state level, instead of the federal level. For this, in spite of being wrong on both accounts, you are worse than the people you are criticizing.
 
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RabidMongoose

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We already know that Ron Paul is a homophobe. Just see how he reacts in that movie with Sacha Baron Cohen. He's obviously a homophobe, a racist, and probably sexist, too, considering his remarks about sexual harassment. He's also pretty damn dumb for believing in fairy tale economics.
 
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RabidMongoose

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drebo said:
This debate is about what is right at the federal level. States are allowed to be chartered however the fuck they want, and that's what Ron Paul stands for. .
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No, the debate is about individual rights in the end. Big state governments that trample on individual rights is still big government. Ron Paul is against individual civil liberties and is for states to do whatever the hell they want at the expense of individuals.

Ron Paul wants the debate to be only about the federal level because then all of his whack job beliefs will be hidden. Good thing that crazy old racist troll of a geezer can't dictate the debate.
 
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fskimospy

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drebo said:
You're just as much of an idiot as the other guy, as every one of your previous posts has proved.

This debate is about what is right at the federal level. States are allowed to be chartered however the fuck they want, and that's what Ron Paul stands for. He's not advocating big or small government for states, only that the states be allowed to choose that for themselves and that the federal government stays the fuck out of it.

Yet, you'll spin that to say that he's a nanny-statist just because he wants the nanny-stating done at the state level, instead of the federal level. For this, in spite of being wrong on both accounts, you are worse than the people you are criticizing.
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lol. I like how accurately describing his positions is now 'spin'.

Ron Paul is quite comfortable with the government inserting itself in women's reproductive decisions, he just wants a different level of the government to do it. He has said that much himself, and he has repeatedly sponsored legislation that would clearly lead to abortion being classified as murder. These are simply facts.

This has nothing to do with whether or not you think his position is correct (although I believe it to be yet another repulsive position he holds), but you should be able to accurately describe it. Only in a Ron Paul supporter's world is giving the government a new power to control women's reproductive activity working for smaller government.

EDIT: Ooh, he also voted for the federal partial birth abortion ban. The states can choose for themselves so long as they don't choose that procedure! Whoops!
 
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fskimospy

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PC Surgeon said:
one would have to be an absolute fool to think he's a "homophobe" and that thats the reason behind his vote. It's sad people don't research and just assume or regurgitate BS they heard on TV. To help you the Constitution does not give the government power to decide who can marry who and thats the reason his vote was no.
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I haven't watched TV news in probably more than five years. His bill was to remove the power of federal courts to hear cases on religion, anti-gay legislation, or gay marriage. While the idea that he just wanted to keep powers for the states is wonderful and all, the fact that he singled out these areas for special removal of federal protections was pretty telling.

Any more unfounded accusations you want to get off your chest to defend Ron Paul's horrible views?
 
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