The Chinese want to own your bacon!

[Red Squirrel]

I don't know how I feel about bacon that says meow.

 

[OlafSicky]

Anyone that knows bacon knows that Canadian Bacon is best. No point in panicking we can still import bacon from Canada🙂

 

[BoomerD]

Anyone that knows bacon knows that Canadian Ham-Bacon is mediocre at best.

ftfy..and YES, we SHOULD panic...and riot in the streets.

DAMMIT! This am impertant!

 

[sdifox]

Great, now my bacon will be laden with nitrates and sodiums.

 

[techs]

I read an interesting piece. China can now decide to ship pork out of the US when they want too, even if its uneconomical for them. They can also control the price of pork in the US by increasing or decreasing supply.

While China does want the ability to have a vast store of pork that it can tap into if conditions in China demand it, they also now can influence US farm producing states Senators and Representitives. While also legally contributing to their campaigns.

Goodbye, USA.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I read an interesting piece. China can now decide to ship pork out of the US when they want too, even if its uneconomical for them. They can also control the price of pork in the US by increasing or decreasing supply.

While China does want the ability to have a vast store of pork that it can tap into if conditions in China demand it, they also now can influence US farm producing states Senators and Representitives. While also legally contributing to their campaigns.

Goodbye, USA.

I say we take a cue from the Iranians and nationalize the hell out of it.

 

[techs]

I say we take a cue from the Iranians and nationalize the hell out of it.

That won't do anything.

The Chinese really want to be able to ship chicken into the US. They already supply the US with 80 percent of our Tilapia, half our apple juice, and substantial amounts of mushrooms, canned tuna, mandarin oranges, etc.

We still don't let them ship chicken due to their terrible history of selling adulterated chicken.

The idea is that if they are producing and shipping pork from the US to China they will have influence to get the US to allow chicken from China into the US. That means most chicken production will go to China. Then, of course, they will ship pork production to China.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

They'll export the product and sell it as luxury food that is Made in USA

 

[yuchai]

That won't do anything.

The Chinese really want to be able to ship chicken into the US. They already supply the US with 80 percent of our Tilapia, half our apple juice, and substantial amounts of mushrooms, canned tuna, mandarin oranges, etc.

We still don't let them ship chicken due to their terrible history of selling adulterated chicken.

The idea is that if they are producing and shipping pork from the US to China they will have influence to get the US to allow chicken from China into the US. That means most chicken production will go to China. Then, of course, they will ship pork production to China.

I think you are thinking too much into it. They want to be able to export US pork to China because there is demand in China for this premium product. Increasingly Chinese businesses are putting more focus on their domestic market since there is an emerging middle class there and people can actually afford a lot of new things now.

Are there businesses in China that want to export chicken to the US? Sure. But thinking that is the primary reason for this deal is pretty far fetched.

 

[techs]

I think you are thinking too much into it. They want to be able to export US pork to China because there is demand in China for this premium product. Increasingly Chinese businesses are putting more focus on their domestic market since there is an emerging middle class there and people can actually afford a lot of new things now.

Are there businesses in China that want to export chicken to the US? Sure. But thinking that is the primary reason for this deal is pretty far fetched.

Actually the US pork is not "premium" product in China but considered safer than the stuff they raise in China. US pork is leaner than the Chinese prefer. We in the US want our pork as lean as possible for health reasons and taste be dammed.

But the "primary" reason is not to ship pork to China. They could do that without buying the company. They want to control the shipments. That can't be good for the US consumer.

And, surprisingly, China has become a major exporter of food. We think of China as a country of starvation and hunger still. But they do massive food production. Turns out chicken production is one of their big things. In fact they produce so much they are now an exporter. And they have tons of land with no environmental restrictions and cheap labor and lax regulation which they are trying to turn into becoming a major chicken exporter. Just like with solar panels, the government has set their sites on this. And the US is a prime target. But they can't get in because of their history and the power of the US "chicken" lobby.

Smart move. Get the "pork" lobby on your side. And at some point China will complain the US won't take their chicken while at the same time dumping pork on the US market to lower prices. Then the pork lobby will turn against the chicken producers.

In ten years chicken will be 25 percent Chinese and eventually about 30-40 percent Chinese.

And at some point China will do the same with pork production which is even more suited to their no regulation on pollution policies.

 

[yuchai]

Never said it's premium because of the taste, so not sure why you felt the need to correct me there. US wanting pork as lean as possible is a pretty funny statement btw. Fatty pork is hardly the reason for US obesity rates.

China as a country of starvation & hunger? If that's the mainstream opinion in the US it's no wonder we're losing competitiveness so quickly.

Anyway, don't see a big deal even if China exports chicken to the US (as long as the quality meets our standards). Like you said, they already supply 80% of tilapia & 50% of apples. Don't see how I'm losing as a consumer in those areas.

 

[lxskllr]

Anyway, don't see a big deal even if China exports chicken to the US (as long as the quality meets our standards). Like you said, they already supply 80% of tilapia & 50% of apples. Don't see how I'm losing as a consumer in those areas.

I have a strict policy of not putting anything Chinese in or on my body. I reluctantly buy Chinese hard goods if I'm in a hurry, or don't have an alternative, but it's not my preference.

 

[Kadarin]

I am definitely not comfortable with buying/eating food from a chinese owned company.

 

[techs]

Anyway, don't see a big deal even if China exports chicken to the US (as long as the quality meets our standards). Like you said, they already supply 80% of tilapia & 50% of apples. Don't see how I'm losing as a consumer in those areas.

Well, I'm not comfortable with people in the US having to pay to inspect Chinese chickens like we do with lots of other stuff cause the Chinese have shown they can't be trusted.

And, even if its inspected here its not like they are going to test any more than a small fraction of the chicken that comes in.