The Chinese want our nuts.

[techs]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704076804576180774248237738.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

"What's changed in our business?" asks second-generation pecan merchant and sheller George Martin, president of Navarro Pecan Co. in Corsicana, Texas. "The Chinese entered…and they have been getting bigger and bigger and bigger."

The dynamics are simple. "We're in a situation of finite supply and seemingly infinite demand," says Thomas Stevenson, a Georgia pecan grower and merchant. Eventually, more trees will be planted, but a pecan takes eight to 10 years to bear fruit.

For now, life is good for pecan growers, who produce about $550 million a year worth of nuts at today's prices. Grower Bill Goff sold the entire crop of his 1,800 acres of Georgia pecans to Chinese buyers last year. But he's not putting the profits into a sports car. Instead, he is buying up another 500 acres of pecan orchards. In Georgia, he says, pecan orchards hovered between $3,000 and $3,800 an acre five years ago. Today, they sell for between $4,500 and $6,000 an acre.




This is a threat to pecan pie lovers. WE MUST TAKE ACTION to preserve our nuts!

 

[ElFenix]

this is exactly what i expected when i saw the thread title.


edit: Mr. McNutt sells pecan laden fruitcakes :awe:

 

[BoomerD]

China and India are the largest importers of California almonds and walnuts as well...

As for the prices for orchard land...that's "dirt cheap."

Around here, almond orchards sell for $15,000-$30,000 per acre.

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1698...04-019-Residence-Apn-016-004-018-Vernalis-CA/

http://www.loopnet.com/California/Stanislaus-County_Farms-For-Sale/

 

[Sluggo]

Only until they learn to reverse engineer them, then the pecan market will go down in flames.

 

[Spikesoldier]

China and India are the largest importers of California almonds and walnuts as well...

As for the prices for orchard land...that's "dirt cheap."

Around here, almond orchards sell for $15,000-$30,000 per acre.

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1698...04-019-Residence-Apn-016-004-018-Vernalis-CA/

http://www.loopnet.com/California/Stanislaus-County_Farms-For-Sale/

yep and a 20K shitshack in GA goes for a millie in CA

 

[Lean L]

Only until they learn to reverse engineer them, then the pecan market will go down in flames.

don't even joke about that. I have no doubt that it will be attempted. Look at fake chinese eggs... how do these people sleep at night?

 

[richardycc]

I didn't know Chinese people eat that much pecan...I can't think of one "everyday" Chinese dish that uses pecan.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

I didn't know Chinese people eat that much pecan...I can't think of one "everyday" Chinese dish that uses pecan.

Chinese are really big on pecans; just not in pies or other dishes, as Western people have. They're more snacks; they're cooked somehow (maybe roasted?) and eaten as a snack food.

 

[Kadarin]

What'll happen is that China will insist that pecan growers here in the US who want to get in on the pecan market in China will have to enter into a partnership deal with some state-owned Chinese company, and enter into a technology transfer deal. Some pecan exec will sign off on it as he sees the quarterly bottom line look really good, and he'll get a phat bonus and promotion. Meanwhile, over the next few years they'll get shut out as China starts dumping pecans onto the market at half price.

It's the American way!

 

[destrekor]

this is exactly what i expected when i saw the thread title.

same.
I'm getting at better seeing through the baits. But I still spring the trap, because I like to do so. 🙂

 

[SagaLore]

Hmm... I live where pecan trees grow really well. Should I plant some? :hmm:

 

[iGas]

It has to do with the foods price on the world market, and perhaps inflation. Food price has gone up between 60-80% in the last 5 years in the world market due to more demand from growing countries (China, South Asia, and SE Asia).

Engergy and minerals has also gone up 100-400%.

 

[OCGuy]

I didn't know Chinese people eat that much pecan...I can't think of one "everyday" Chinese dish that uses pecan.

How about dog?

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.58e43efdbb6421d6ae4c5241e9b944e4.4a1&show_article=1

"Hundreds of dogs being trucked to Chinese restaurants were spared a culinary fate after about 200 animal lovers mobilised to stop them ending up on dinner tables, state-run media said Monday"

 

[Perknose]

It's fair turnabout. I'm quite fond of their balls.

 

[Locut0s]

How about dog?

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.58e43efdbb6421d6ae4c5241e9b944e4.4a1&show_article=1

"Hundreds of dogs being trucked to Chinese restaurants were spared a culinary fate after about 200 animal lovers mobilised to stop them ending up on dinner tables, state-run media said Monday"

Are cows really that different? We have "depersonalized" the animals we eat so that we can comfortably do away with them. In reality there isn't that much difference. They aren't eating peoples pets.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

So the saying, of the chinese can suck my nuts is true. (Has a Pecan tree in his backyard)

 

[BoomerD]

Are cows really that different? We have "depersonalized" the animals we eat so that we can comfortably do away with them. In reality there isn't that much difference. They aren't eating peoples pets.

Really?
From the article:

The dogs, many apparently stolen from their owners, were being transported from the central Chinese province of Henan to restaurants in Jilin province in the northeast, the China Daily said. It said 430 dogs were rescued, while the Global Times put the number at 520.

 

[OCGuy]

Are cows really that different? We have "depersonalized" the animals we eat so that we can comfortably do away with them. In reality there isn't that much difference. They aren't eating peoples pets.

I think more advanced humans tend to frown on eating things that are intelligent (Dolphins, horse, dogs, etc).

I can see pigs being the glaring exception to this though.

 

[sandorski]

Hmm... I live where pecan trees grow really well. Should I plant some? :hmm:

Yes. You'll have an endless supply all to yourself!

 

[Locut0s]

I think more advanced humans tend to frown on eating things that are intelligent (Dolphins, horse, dogs, etc).

I can see pigs being the glaring exception to this though.

By more advanced are you inferring that those who eat these animals are "less advanced, mentally slow"? That's a slippery slope there, not saying your statement is racist but it leads to that. Also intelligence is a straw man of an argument as to why we eat or don't eat animals. Pigs as you mentioned are smart but so are other animals we eat, dear, many types of fowl etc. Also a good part of the reason some of these animals are dumb is we have bred the smarts out of them over the generations. There are also lots of pets that are dumb as a proverbial rock.

 

[techs]

If pigs are so smart why haven't they figured out a way to not be so delicious?

 

[sandorski]

By more advanced are you inferring that those who eat these animals are "less advanced, mentally slow"? That's a slippery slope there, not saying your statement is racist but it leads to that. Also intelligence is a straw man of an argument as to why we eat or don't eat animals. Pigs as you mentioned are smart but so are other animals we eat, dear, many types of fowl etc. Also a good part of the reason some of these animals are dumb is we have bred the smarts out of them over the generations. There are also lots of pets that are dumb as a proverbial rock.

Pigs are too delicious to be Intelligent. Now Squid, they're Intelligent

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Pigs are too delicious to be Intelligent. Now Squid, they're Intelligent

And yet they're still delicious.

 

[Locut0s]

If pigs are so smart why haven't they figured out a way to not be so delicious?

Shhh, it's a conspiracy.

 

[sandorski]

And yet they're still delicious.

No. You have a Taste Impediment....