The chevy guy convinced me. I want a Colorado.

[PricklyPete]

Should be best in class until Ford brings back to the Ranger and the Tacoma updates

Unless Tacoma offers a diesel, it might remain best in class for a while. I don't see Ford returning with a Ranger anytime soon. Hopefully they prove me wrong.

 

[Pocatello]

Talk about mountains...those are huge!

 

[Scarpozzi]

I seriously considered the Colorado because I liked its styling. (previous generation)

It was smaller than the F150 and had similar pricing, the F150 seemed like a better buy based on bang for your buck... For that matter, Silverado and Sierra are priced similar to F150.

My local Chevy dealership has a few 2015s with long box + 3 doors in the LT and Z71 trims...they're $38k and $37k, respectively. I'm not sure what dealer incentives there are, but I'd want to compare how much space the cab has to gas mileage and cargo space before making a decision.

From Ford, I can get a XLT Supercrew Ecoboost 4x4 with a 5.5box new off the lot for $35k pretty easily after all the rebates. I want to say I actually got a quote last year for $33k when I played hardball with them, but ultimately bought used because I needed a 6.5 foot box and decided to throw extra cash at replacing my car this year or next.

 

[PricklyPete]

I seriously considered the Colorado because I liked its styling. (previous generation)

It was smaller than the F150 and had similar pricing, the F150 seemed like a better buy based on bang for your buck... For that matter, Silverado and Sierra are priced similar to F150.

My local Chevy dealership has a few 2015s with long box + 3 doors in the LT and Z71 trims...they're $38k and $37k, respectively. I'm not sure what dealer incentives there are, but I'd want to compare how much space the cab has to gas mileage and cargo space before making a decision.

From Ford, I can get a XLT Supercrew Ecoboost 4x4 with a 5.5box new off the lot for $35k pretty easily after all the rebates. I want to say I actually got a quote last year for $33k when I played hardball with them, but ultimately bought used because I needed a 6.5 foot box and decided to throw extra cash at replacing my car this year or next.

Comparing MSRP to a vehicle after rebates/negotiation just isn't fair.

 

[heymrdj]

I seriously considered the Colorado because I liked its styling. (previous generation)

It was smaller than the F150 and had similar pricing, the F150 seemed like a better buy based on bang for your buck... For that matter, Silverado and Sierra are priced similar to F150.

My local Chevy dealership has a few 2015s with long box + 3 doors in the LT and Z71 trims...they're $38k and $37k, respectively. I'm not sure what dealer incentives there are, but I'd want to compare how much space the cab has to gas mileage and cargo space before making a decision.

From Ford, I can get a XLT Supercrew Ecoboost 4x4 with a 5.5box new off the lot for $35k pretty easily after all the rebates. I want to say I actually got a quote last year for $33k when I played hardball with them, but ultimately bought used because I needed a 6.5 foot box and decided to throw extra cash at replacing my car this year or next.

Man I need your dealer 🙁. I couldn't get close to that when trying to get an F-150, which is why I skipped it for now. Super stripper XLT?

 

[heymrdj]

Comparing MSRP to a vehicle after rebates/negotiation just isn't fair.

You're pretty much at negotiation. The forums show that leeway is not there. GM only built CC models in certain configs because they believe they will sell that hardcore. Dealers aren't negotiating on them.

 

[MongGrel]

Sounds nice, I guess I really have no need for a truck these days.

Used to have a GMC High Sierra 3/4 ton 4x4 short bed that was pretty nice when I lived up North long ago.

Sounds a good choice though from the looks of it.

 

[Raduque]

I still fail to see the allure of the Ford V-6 Ecoboost motor. Gas mileage isn't dramatically better (EPA estimates are only 1mpg better than the 5.0 V-8 engine in same chassis) and the engine is heavier than the "normal" 3.7L V-6 by over 300# and even heavier than the 5.0 V-8 in the same chassis:
reg. cab, short bed, 4x2----Ecoboost curb weight-5073#, 5.0L V-8-4791#.

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/view-all/


Then the added costs. First, the engine's more expensive to purchase vs. the 5.0L V-8 (approx. $1400 more than the 5.0L----$2395 vs. $1000 as engine option upgrade.) Ford also added this to the owner's manual about the Ecoboost V-6:



http://www.fordservicecontent.com/F...-Owners-Manual-version-3_om_EN-US_03_2014.pdf (Pg. 141)


So, the engine "needs" premium to tow properly......Ford recommends it and premium costs more. (Yes, I know you can tow using reg. fuel in the Ecoboost, but at a performance and gas mileage penalty.)


Guess an Ecoboost engine purchase is because the owner wants to pay more for what? Not gas mileage, which is a wash (1 mpg difference.) Not to save money as the Ecoboost "is recommended to use" premium when towing to perform at its best, something the 5.0L V-8 doesn't need. And there's the extra cost of the Ecoboost as an option, which will probably never pay for itself. Lest we forget, add in the extra complexity of dual turbos.......

So....why buy an Ecoboost?

And every piece of this is irrelevant towards the statement I was answering. WT said "I need torque to tow, and NO V6 is going to do that well". The Ecoboost is both a V6 and it has more low-end torque than most V8s.

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

Well, if finally arrived. 3 month wait.
Its really cozy! The interior seems to be of better quality than the 2014 Ford FX4 my brother just got. Seats warm up fast. The steering wheel is small, but not awkwardly so. All the controls for stereo functions and phone, etc. is easy, intuitive, you know technology and stuff.

Its not extremely fast, but enough to pass when you need to. I dont think Ill ever need more than what it has. My cars and bikes are for fun, this is for work.
This Sunday I may test out its towing capacity if I get a chance to pick up a new car I want to work on.

The only complaint I have is that the buetooth communication with my phone is slow. But it seems to be an HTC and SAMSUNG thing, where as people with iPhones dont have a problem. But thats not the end of the world.

I just got it yesterday, so im still figuring things out and getting comfortable with it. Im really happy with the paint. Its Rainforest Metallic Green, but it appears black at night, and transitions depending on the angle you look at it.

Anyways, Photos.

 

[Imported]

Nice color!

 

[Jimzz]

Yea like the color. Isn't that a extra charge, premium, paint code?

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

Yea like the color. Isn't that a extra charge, premium, paint code?

yes, was a $500 upgrade. I have had 3 compliments from strangers about the the color already.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

I'm probably getting one in a few ears unless Ford gets their head out of their ass and releases a Ranger in the USA. 30 mpg midsized trucks are coming ... I hope soon.

 

[WT]

WT said "I need torque to tow, and NO V6 is going to do that well". The Ecoboost is both a V6 and it has more low-end torque than most V8s.

Good point. My BiL just traded in his 2012 Ecoboost 3.5 Supercrew for a 2014 Ecoboost 3.5 Quad cab. A second kid required the change, but to be honest he was NEVER happy with the mileage, and had his '12 truck in the shop at least twice to work on the engine.

I should have excluded the Ecoboost from my statement, as its 420 ft/lbs will do an adequate job. I'm looking at in excess of 7,000 lbs, with a 23' toy hauler/ATV and equipment, so the F-150s 8,600 lb towing capacity is getting a bit close to that max limit.

I am now interested in an older Sequioa or Tundra, say around 2008, with the 5.7. That offers 10k towing capacity, and offers more headroom than the V6 F-150. With that added to my post, you'd probably agree that even an Ecoboost V6 would not be the best fit for my particular needs.

Fuzzy, really do like that color !! When I went to the Harrisburg car show earlier this month, I snapped a photo of the GMC Canyon is what appears to be that same color. The Colorado they had at the show was red. It was hard to even get to sit in it as it generated a ton of traffic around it. My only complaint about either model was the step side bars (for a tall guy like me) would hit the back of your legs when you stepped out. Stepping on it then caused me to bump my head upon exit. For anyone under 6'-0, it was probably a non-issue.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

And every piece of this is irrelevant towards the statement I was answering. WT said "I need torque to tow, and NO V6 is going to do that well". The Ecoboost is both a V6 and it has more low-end torque than most V8s.

Trucks 20 years ago could tow on 260 HP and 350 torque in the biggest engine (5.4L, not turbo charged).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-Series_tenth_generation#Powertrain

With the power in trucks today, who in the hell is worried about torque and HP? The 2.7L Ecoboost is 325 HP and 375 torque. Yes, I know it is a turboed engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-Series_thirteenth_generation#Powertrain

 

[Wuzup101]

I should have excluded the Ecoboost from my statement, as its 420 ft/lbs will do an adequate job. I'm looking at in excess of 7,000 lbs, with a 23' toy hauler/ATV and equipment, so the F-150s 8,600 lb towing capacity is getting a bit close to that max limit.

I am now interested in an older Sequioa or Tundra, say around 2008, with the 5.7. That offers 10k towing capacity, and offers more headroom than the V6 F-150. With that added to my post, you'd probably agree that even an Ecoboost V6 would not be the best fit for my particular needs.

What's your budget and needs? The New F150 can be configured with a tow rating of >12,000lbs (min tow rating for any configuration that has the 3.5 ecoboost is 10,700lbs). Not sure if you were looking at new trucks though.

Fuzzy - it looks awesome.... I really like them!

 

[slag]

Good point. My BiL just traded in his 2012 Ecoboost 2.7 Supercrew for a 2014 Ecoboost 3.5 Quad cab. A second kid required the change, but to be honest he was NEVER happy with the mileage, and had his '12 truck in the shop at least twice to work on the engine.

I should have excluded the Ecoboost from my statement, as its 420 ft/lbs will do an adequate job. I'm looking at in excess of 7,000 lbs, with a 23' toy hauler/ATV and equipment, so the F-150s 8,600 lb towing capacity is getting a bit close to that max limit.

I am now interested in an older Sequioa or Tundra, say around 2008, with the 5.7. That offers 10k towing capacity, and offers more headroom than the V6 F-150. With that added to my post, you'd probably agree that even an Ecoboost V6 would not be the best fit for my particular needs.

Fuzzy, really do like that color !! When I went to the Harrisburg car show earlier this month, I snapped a photo of the GMC Canyon is what appears to be that same color. The Colorado they had at the show was red. It was hard to even get to sit in it as it generated a ton of traffic around it. My only complaint about either model was the step side bars (for a tall guy like me) would hit the back of your legs when you stepped out. Stepping on it then caused me to bump my head upon exit. For anyone under 6'-0, it was probably a non-issue.

I really like my 2008 Tundra CrewMax. You can't go wrong with the Tundra. I drive both the ecoboost 3.5 in my wife's explorer and the 5.7 in my tundra and they both are snappy with tons of power.

 

[NutBucket]

Looks good Fuzzy. Another thumbs up to the color. I would ditch the running boards though....unless you're short 😛

 

[WT]

What's your budget and needs? The New F150 can be configured with a tow rating of >12,000lbs (min tow rating for any configuration that has the 3.5 ecoboost is 10,700lbs). Not sure if you were looking at new trucks though.

NEW ?!? Oh hell no !! The wife, aka 'The Boss' kept my high $$ mark very low when I bought my last vehicle new in 2006, a V6 SUV. Try and find a new V6 SUV for under 23k these days !!

It's been solid and trouble-free so far, granted with only 50k on it to this point. I am STILL under the factory 10 yr powertrain warranty, so I should keep it for my oldest kid to use when she needs a car in 4 years.

I'm probably going to get capped at 23k to spend, just like last time, hence the need to go older and V8 equipped (2008 Sequioa, Tundra, Expedition, Chrysler Aspen Hemi are what I'm looking at). Mileage is not so important, seeing that I average around 6k a year. All are rated for over 9k towing capacity, so any of them that I listed should be sufficient for me.

The biggest problem I foresee - I have my heart settled on the 23' toy hauler that I want. She wants a much larger 26-29' travel trailer that weighs significantly more than my 6,600 lb toy hauler unit. You all know the easiest way to get your wife to go along on a big purchase is to let her choose what she wants and you just nod your head and say 'Yep, that looks good', right ??

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

Looks good Fuzzy. Another thumbs up to the color. I would ditch the running boards though....unless you're short 😛

Actually i am really considering removing them. Not only for looks, but because like WT said they arent as functional as I thought they would be. The reason I got them was to assist with getting in/out while wearing dress pants. But they are slippery! You would think they would design them with traction in mind, but my shoe just slips off if it has snow or water on it.
Also yes, it gets the back of my pants dirty if i get too close.

I pretty sure Im convinced they are coming off.

 

[LTC8K6]

Actually i am really considering removing them. Not only for looks, but because like WT said they arent as functional as I thought they would be. The reason I got them was to assist with getting in/out while wearing dress pants. But they are slippery! You would think they would design them with traction in mind, but my shoe just slips off if it has snow or water on it.
Also yes, it gets the back of my pants dirty if i get too close.

I pretty sure Im convinced they are coming off.

Put some of that grip tape on them?

 

[tortillasoup]

Good point. My BiL just traded in his 2012 Ecoboost 2.7 Supercrew for a 2014 Ecoboost 3.5 Quad cab. A second kid required the change, but to be honest he was NEVER happy with the mileage, and had his '12 truck in the shop at least twice to work on the engine.

I think you got those displacement numbers backwards. They offered no 2.7L motors until 2015 Model Year.

 

[WT]

I think you got those displacement numbers backwards. They offered no 2.7L motors until 2015 Model Year.

Danke ! Corrected my post with accurate info. I actually avoided discussing the old F-150 with him after hearing the numerous issues he was having with it.

Fuzzy, if you really want to keep the step bars on it, I would highly recommend Herculiner truckbed liner. It's a roll on application that I used on the floor of my old 6x12 enclosed trailer to give me grip on the smooth flooring when loading my ATV - it did an amazing job of adding superior grip and was resistant to oils, liquids, brunt force trauma ... it can take a beating !! Even if you somehow managed to damage it, you could simply pop the can back open and re-apply over the damaged area.

Link to a pic of Herculiner on trailer floor -> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=EF9DD92E6939A7F3!5271&authkey=!AJly98VI0NLSEOs&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

 

[NutBucket]

Fuzzy, what was the final config you got and what did you pay?

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

Fuzzy, what was the final config you got and what did you pay?

Crew cab
short box
Z71
4WD
Green
Exterior Convenience (Mud Flaps, running boards, step-up triangles)
Block Heater (its cold 'round here)
Spray on bedliner
Two/Haul Mode and modules
Cargo ties
Couple other things

$39.500 total including tax and delivery etc. Enough, but company paid for it. Traded in a lemon equinox, got loyalty discount, a $500 business incentive (local thing), and $664 off because i printed the sheet off from online Build and PRice and it had an asterisk that says I get a discount for paying upfront. They tried to talk their way out of the asterisk but I was like... "uh, no, it says it right there." They even looked it up on the computer at the dealer just to see that I wasnt bamboozling. I wrote a check for around $27k all said and done.

EDIT: When I was initially shopping around back in November I had called a number of places to get a quote. They all said the same thing because they just plug into their computer what they need when its a factory order. If it was a truck on a lot, i may have been able to negotiate more, but it didnt seem that dealers were willing to compete when it came to factory orders.

EDIT EDIT: Those are Canadian dollars. So like $12000 USD after exchange :awe: